Has anyone every replaced a snapped C4 shaft in Australia?

Hi Jake,

C4 shafts are available but unfortunately you have to buy the blade and handle as well as they come as a package and that is life. To snap a carbon shaft by hitting the rail whilst surfing is hard to believe whether it be a C4, Werner or whatever brand of shaft. Could you give everyone more information on how it happened?

If you want one in a hurry pop into Dale Chapmans factory as he is making some excellent shafts at the moment and I'm sure he would be more than willing to help you get back on the water and the same could be said for Woogie & Jodie with their paddles.

C4 Warranty info can be downloaded here

http://www.c4waterman.com/downloads/product-documentation/paddle-warranty/download.html

Cheers
Simon

yeah it was just a hit on his rail that done it i seen it happen i was about 2 feet away when he done it. It broke in about the same spot that my C4 broke, Sounds like quite a few shafts from C4 have broken so maybe they should bring a few replacement shafts in. Bye the way mine was replaced by warranty.
Jacko

Ben dover said...



I told C4 australia what happened and they didn't beleive me.


P.S I wrote to international C4 after it happened and they never got baack to me

I find that amazing..

DJ

"Well i was surfing in about 1ft surf at the Alley and went up for a closeout turn and swung the paddle and it hit the rail and the shaft snapped and splinted so i was pretty devoed."

Jake I wish you all the best with your claim mate and I am sure if its valid C4 will look after you and I mean no harm but... I have to Laugh at the above because In all your posts I have never heard the words.... "i was surfing in about 1ft surf" and It makes me laugh how we all bend our tale to suit the bill.

Im sure it was only 1ft but I have to giggle at the way it sounds comming from such a talker.. no offence lol

Good luck Bud

Regards

Luke

Ben dover said...

Yer well i would say good things about them but its been 2 months now so im over it.

Ben..my husband is going to Hawaii in 2 days time. He will be catching up with Todd Bradley and picking me up a few things from C4 like a fin for my Vortice, extra breather plugs, a new 10' board bla bla bla.

I can ask him to bring you a new shaft if you like? He is home on 17th October, the day before "Choose Your Weapon" on the Goldy and a week before Seaway to Seaway ? I can give it to you at "Weapons" on 18th Oct ???

aussiewahine said...

Ben dover said...

Yer well i would say good things about them but its been 2 months now so im over it.

Ben..my husband is going to Hawaii in 2 days time. He will be catching up with Todd Bradley and picking me up a few things from C4 like a fin for my Vortice, extra breather plugs, a new 10' board bla bla bla.

I can ask him to bring you a new shaft if you like? He is home on 17th October, the day before "Choose Your Weapon" on the Goldy and a week before Seaway to Seaway ? I can give it to you at "Weapons" on 18th Oct ???

Yes please that would be great if he could

Thanks

Piros said...

Carbon shafts are incredibly strong but they do have there achillis heal , you can put all types of pressure on the shaft and it will hold strong but it can't take side impact. This is where timber shafts have a great advantage they can take all types of punishment and not fail.

If C4 won't come to the party go see Lats at Max Kayaks (West Burleigh) he manufactures carbon ski paddles and he CAN repair your C4 shaft. call him on 0411502064.

Well you learn something everyday - I didn't know about the side impact on shafts - would this be just on oval shaped shafts

I would also beg to differ about the wooden shafts I would see these breaking more than the carbon shaft paddles - due to the fact that wood has a lesser flex pattern than carbon We also make the wooden shaft paddles and have 3 returns due to snapped shafts.

Piros said...

Jodie I'm saying don't buy carbon all my paddles are carbon , it is a much stronger and lighter product than timber but carbon is very brittle compared to timber.This is not my opinion but straight out fact thats why carbon is mixed with hybrids like kevlar so it can be used in high impact/stress areas in boats and aircraft.

My point is if you own a carbon paddle you can't belt it around like your old timber slugger , if you read Jakes post he said the shaft broke when it hit the rail not under load while paddling.

Sweet - like I said I am learning something. Know what you mean about the timber paddles.

Subculture said...

Really?? That's a bit savage No explanation or reply either? Surely it's all about spreading the good word...

Sorry to hear that

Yer..that's ok. I was really disappointed at first but got over it pretty fast. Yes I get nothing out of my site. Only members. There is nothing for sale on it. I just want lots of members and it's a great place to see upcoming events and has links to all the major SUP businesses and sites. It's the perfect place to introduce yourself to others and make friends. I even tried to join The Zone using an alias name but I think Randy recognised my email address and my new membership was never accepted. Anyway enough about me..lets get back to Ben Dover's Shaft !!

did you fix the ding in the rail from the impact of the blade ,how many blades you broke now ,try a different fin set up the board might turn easier ????????? your to strong ha ha ha ha

Read this post with interest, don't know a whole lot about paddles but I've definetely experienced the problems of side impact on carbon shafts. This can happen on carbon fishing rods, particularly the earlier models, a sharp crack against the gunwales of a boat, the thing looks fine then right when you don't need it i.e. when fighting a large fish, bang, the thing just explodes! Some of woogies paddles feature a carbon/kevlar composite shaft, this could be the answer to Bennys' problems, carbon fibre is best used for torsional strength while kevlar is the ticket for impact resistance. Like I said, I don't know a whole lot about paddles but thought this may help.

elbeau said...

This news is a bit of a worry. I was under the impression that carbon paddles were almost indestructable. Obviously not. Someone asked is it only the oval shape? I wonder have the Spankers a reputation for snapping?

I've never heard of a Spanker breaking and carbon fiber is not bomb proof like some may think.

You need to be very careful not to get a knock/chip/ding on the side of the shaft because when stressed it could go bang at that spot.

It's the same with carbon fiber windsurfing masts.

Use a cover to protect it from knocks... and from the sun.

Hey Jake... If C4 are going to warranty your paddle (and that's great if they do) you should get a whole new one.. Not just a new shaft.. IMO.

DJ

DavidJohn said...

elbeau said...

This news is a bit of a worry. I was under the impression that carbon paddles were almost indestructable. Obviously not. Someone asked is it only the oval shape? I wonder have the Spankers a reputation for snapping?

Hey Jake... If C4 are going to warranty your paddle (and that's great if they do) you should get a whole new one.. Not just a new shaft.. IMO.

DJ

I think that is way T Bradley wanted the whole paddle returned - Check out Sue post.

Yip Stu you are right we do a Carbon Kevlar shaft - I guess we might be selling a bit more of these now - although the full black paddle do look the best if it is going to explode like a bomb in the surf if you hit a rail I would be changing.

that is good news - and now others will buy c4 with confidence

its a shame the guys from supsurfaustralia.com dont follow their lead -

I asked them about my broken shaft - basically told me it would have been my fault - and I would have landed on the paddle and caused a weakness - I hadnt

I simply broke mine do a power stroke paddling on to a wave - and it snapped under my hand -- fibreglass shaft

I cant believe no one is carrying replacemnt shafts -