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2MT
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6 Feb 2012 11:02am
Boards being damaged in transit to TAS is a big problem.

We have been organizing a demo day for next Sun 12th

(Refer to sup forums and events).

And as a result boards are coming in from Mainland dealers.

A bit of costly damage has happened.

But it's happening frequently.

And you all know what it's like .. waiting for that new board of your dreams ...

it arrives damaged .. devestating .. tears ...

It must be happening throughout the whole industry .. any ideas out there ??

Tell me of the broken boards of your dreams .. you'll feel much better
PTWoody
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6 Feb 2012 12:25pm
Starboard Ace 14' carbon rocketship, arrived brand new in Perth a couple of weeks ago, lent it to Connor Baxter for the Doctor race in which he won then kindly signed the board with a personal message, then it was freighted across to Melbourne last Friday but was unfortunately damaged in transit. I've been inconsolable ever since. Could get a replacement but it won't be a signed race winner. Hopefully the talented shaper at Zaks Surfboards can repair the damage with minimal weight gain.

DavidJohn
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6 Feb 2012 12:32pm
I agree.. It happens way too much.. The buggers..

I've had a few boards damaged and it makes you feel sick in the stomach and so mad at the same time.. My last board was dinged in the rail.

PT just had his new SB turn up damaged.. it's the board Connor used when he was and had a hand written message on the deck.. Brings a tear to the eye..

DJ
ShireSUP
ShireSUP
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6 Feb 2012 12:42pm
PTWoody said...

Starboard Ace 14' carbon rocketship, arrived brand new in Perth a couple of weeks ago, lent it to Connor Baxter for the Doctor race in which he won then kindly signed the board with a personal message, then it was freighted across to Melbourne last Friday but was unfortunately damaged in transit. I've been inconsolable ever since. Could get a replacement but it won't be a signed race winner. Hopefully the talented shaper at Zaks Surfboards can repair the damage with minimal weight gain.




you should just put it straight in the pool room anyways
2MT
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6 Feb 2012 3:57pm
Its gunna add big bucks to the price of boards in the long run.
If not already.

The big unanswered question is .. what can be done about it ??

Perhaps manufactures could come up with a vacuum plastic, crush proof, coffin.

PTWoody
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6 Feb 2012 4:56pm
One solution would be to insist that literacy be a prerequisite for obtaining a forklift license. Specifically the ability to read the words "DO NOT USE FORKLIFT".
richswing
richswing
WA
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6 Feb 2012 1:57pm
I bought my first SUP half price because it was damaged in transit.

I would consider either boxing the board or alternatively cover/box it in polystryrine foam sheets and glue and tape up the poly box - it won't add much extra weight size. The extruded building polystyrine (the blue stuff) could be used - not cheap but cheaper than a new board and it is quite rigid and strong due to the density. You get it in different thickness too.

Alternatively jsut cover the point that get damaged normally like the rails, nose and tail witht the poly sheets and cove the deck and bottom with corrugated card board to reduc the cost.

Just an idea
Rich
DavidJohn
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6 Feb 2012 4:57pm
tonyleitch said...

Its gunna add big bucks to the price of boards in the long run.
If not already.

The big unanswered question is .. what can be done about it ??

Perhaps manufactures could come up with a vacuum plastic, crush proof, coffin.




Better packaging and handles on the boxes would have to help.. plus get rid of the stupid test that the transport guys have to pass to get the job.

DJ

paddlepop
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6 Feb 2012 4:51pm
i had a waveski shipped perfectly from Wavemaster in Newcastle to Adelaide a couple of years ago and paid a few dollars more for it to go with a 'sensitive' carrier. apparently ones that specialise in electronic gear etc

helping that was the fact that Wavemaster export worldwide and obviously know how to wrap them up

so maybe part/most of the blame for damaged SUP's is with the sending end of the process

pete

riverider
riverider
TAS
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6 Feb 2012 8:44pm
there is a big difference in cost to, i have been quoted between $80 & $250 to get boards down here, it really does pay to shop round, maybe the big players can get together and get a good deal for all of us, if we can get boards down here cheaper & in one piece we are more likely to buy more, which is better for everyone.
benk
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6 Feb 2012 7:51pm
Allalong transport in Launceston are excellent at transporting sups. They have depots in Sydney and Melbourne and take very good care of them. They take a little longer as they wait until they have a full container and put them in the top and offer good prices. I have used them a lot both ways with no issues to TAS.

Ben
Taskite & SUP
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6 Feb 2012 10:24pm
There is lots of useful experience and comment coming in from you guys.

And it seems to me that at one end of the scale you have to make the package
bulletproof (which is expensive) and then send the board with any old carrier at
best freight price.

or

At the other end of the scale we get a "sensitive" carrier who has our industry
seal of approval, and who charges a bit of a premium but insures or warrants
his services. And you only have to send the board in its bag or bubble wrap.

Just as an after thought. The guys who pack and dispatch from the warehouses
seem to do a good job with their cardboard and bubble wrap and it must take time
and cost their businesses heaps .. and then the boards gets trashed anyway. it must be a pisser for those packer guys too. Especially if they get the blame for freight abuse.

There sure is a lot of cost and waste with the current system .. and heart break.

stimo
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6 Feb 2012 8:40pm
Four boards sent for doctor all damaged two dc and two lk all got water tight for race but bran new boards not good when there boxed up they just pick them up with the fork lift seen it first hand at TNT depo Perth I just about flipped out the wind just about blew them of the fork lift .
My new dc is coming over in the fcs race cover least there is some handles and straps and it looks like a board we will see how that goes we will rap with bubble rap as well .
Also don't put fragile on it they always get smashed thats a facted
iFX
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7 Feb 2012 9:25pm
Had my SUP board damaged by Hunter Express Couriers.

Avoid them like the plague!

The tail was totally smashed up even though it was extremely well packed - it must have been dropped straight down on it's tail pretty hard for how it looked - still not sure how they did it to a 10'6" board - maybe a forklift?

Anyway, I took it down to The Ding Shop about 4 weeks ago... still waiting for the repair - not sure what the deal is with them either... I mean I understand they're busy, but they could at least let me know whether it's ready or not before I waste 3.5 hrs organising a car (mine's too small) and getting down there and then having to drive back with no board. I was first told 1 week, and seeing as they were flat out, I gave them 2.5 weeks before trying to contact them again as they said they'd ring when it's ready - called about 10 times over 2 days, no answer, no returned call... sent sms, no response.

Steve from ROAR told me I better go down there and find out what's going on - so went down there last Thursday - said he got my messages... why not let me know then??? anyway, said it will be ready Friday... I couldn't organise a car to carry the board that quickly, so said I'd be back on Monday.

Yesterday I couldn't get out in time, so went today - wasted 3.5 hrs and it's not ready - I rang 4 times yesterday and today, still no answer.

I've got no problem if they need more time - but they could at least let me know what's going on without me having to waste 1 hr+ just driving down there to find out.


Anyway, back to Hunter Express ;)
Not only are they rough - they wouldn't take responsibility for the damage, even though it was supposedly insured... plus they were extremely slow - even sent the board to the wrong place the first time!

I swear someone doesn't want me to get this board ;)

I was supposed to get it in 3 weeks - it took 5 weeks to get to me - but turned out to be doa... then another week or two of getting the run around from Hunter Express about the damage they made with insurance claims etc... realised it was going to take forever and they were going to drag it out as long as possible and then still find some loophole... so decided to get it fixed instead - I just want to get on the water ;)

Another 4 weeks later and I still don't have a board!?

So what's that? 10+ weeks now?... maybe they're trying to tell me to stick to my short boards :(
2MT
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8 Feb 2012 6:40pm
If that happened to me, then about half way through

that story they would have slammed me in the loony bin

and thrown away the key .. you must have extreme personal control.

Hope it eventually works out for you.

HumanCartoon
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8 Feb 2012 7:06pm
DC sent my 14 to me via Toll DNATA. Expensive and the depot blokes were typically rude but the board arrived quickly and was handled with due care ( I might have just been lucky).
Simondo
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8 Feb 2012 8:05pm
PTWoody said...

One solution would be to insist that literacy be a prerequisite for obtaining a forklift license. Specifically the ability to read the words "DO NOT USE FORKLIFT".


And "FRAGILE", and "TOP LOAD" !

pirrad
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SA
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8 Feb 2012 10:08pm
Was going to start a thread "transit damage" but i'll ask the question here,just had a board shipped from retailer eastern states to adelaide SA, i would assume the sender had transit insurance but as i had it delivered to rellies in town i guess when they sign for it that has wavered any chance of a claim, as that signature is accepting that it isnt damaged ? wish i had been there to spend 20 minutes unwrapping and inspecting board before letting the delivery guy know inspect and accnowledge the damage
surf4fun
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WA
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8 Feb 2012 10:28pm
pirrad said...

Was going to start a thread "transit damage" but i'll ask the question here,just had a board shipped from retailer eastern states to adelaide SA, i would assume the sender had transit insurance but as i had it delivered to rellies in town i guess when they sign for it that has wavered any chance of a claim, as that signature is accepting that it isnt damaged ? wish i had been there to spend 20 minutes unwrapping and inspecting board before letting the delivery guy know inspect and accnowledge the damage


From memory as soon as you unwrap it you accept the board regardless of condition. The only way i have heard is that you have to inspect the packaging and if there looks like damage then you can either choose not to receive it or take photos to prove it has been damaged in transit and not once you have opened it.
iFX
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9 Feb 2012 1:42pm
Yeah, I don't know if there's any way around the couriers loop holes in the whole insurance scam they seem to have going there... but anyway...

I've been able to stop myself from losing it completely just by the fact that I'm so busy with work at the moment that I haven't really had time to get in the water much anyway... I just hope the board's ready to go once I've met these deadlines and can finally get back in the water ;) Though at this stage it's looking like it will most likely be on one of my short boards.

Still haven't heard anything from Polsy... hope it's ready by next week :S
iFX
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11 Feb 2012 6:12am
Another weekend... with no board... I guess that's how it goes when you have to rely on other people :(

Short board it is
2MT
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11 Feb 2012 3:48pm
My replacement Fanatic arrived yesterday .. in time for our long weekend ..

In good order

I have to say that the dealer gave good service and couldn't have acted quicker

or more decisively once the problem was reported.

DavidJohn
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12 Feb 2012 8:58pm
Maybe all new boards should be packed like this..

DJ

dralyagmas
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SA
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20 Feb 2012 3:20pm
Hearing lots of bad news here but is there anyone I should look at to get a board from QLD to Adelaide?

Start with the basics - Air/Road?
Who has provided good service?
brucex
brucex
QLD
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21 Feb 2012 7:55am
Avoid Hunter express -
They are terrible - major damage and no responsibility -
boardbumps
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21 Feb 2012 9:30am
Flute board is plastic sheet that looks like cardboard and is tough and light.
A couple of layers on the rails is good.
Its easy to cut and fold around the rails.
The secret for the nose and tail is pad well, then tape a small piece of 3mm MDF to each end so that when they drop the board on its end the MDF takes the load.
I bubble wrap, then flute board, then cover everything in black builders plastic, then MDF the ends and rails if you want.
Cheap and LIGHT
Zeusman
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21 Feb 2012 9:03am
Were the boards on a pallet when they were picked up by a fork?
stimo said...

Four boards sent for doctor all damaged two dc and two lk all got water tight for race but bran new boards not good when there boxed up they just pick them up with the fork lift seen it first hand at TNT depo Perth I just about flipped out the wind just about blew them of the fork lift .
My new dc is coming over in the fcs race cover least there is some handles and straps and it looks like a board we will see how that goes we will rap with bubble rap as well .
Also don't put fragile on it they always get smashed thats a facted


Zeusman
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21 Feb 2012 9:07am
You weren't just lucky mate. I work for Toll/Dnata in Sydney & the boys always handle boards of all types with extreme care. Can't say much about the guys being rude though. There is no excuse for that.
HumanCartoon said...

DC sent my 14 to me via Toll DNATA. Expensive and the depot blokes were typically rude but the board arrived quickly and was handled with due care ( I might have just been lucky).


surf4fun
surf4fun
WA
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21 Feb 2012 11:39am
DavidJohn said...

Maybe all new boards should be packed like this..

DJ




There is probably $30 worth of noodles there but you can't see that board getting damaged anytime soon. Cheapest insurance policy around as far as I am concerned.
boardbumps
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21 Feb 2012 2:44pm
Australian Air Express is very good. Anyone can get freight from them. They deliver to most regional airports, you have to get the board to AAE.

There is a limitation on size which is 3 meters and 15 kilograms, the most exspensive delivery zone is $240 and the ceapest is $50.

You don't have to have an account, anyone can use this service.
iFX
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22 Feb 2012 4:26pm
surf4fun said...
...

There is probably $30 worth of noodles there but you can't see that board getting damaged anytime soon. Cheapest insurance policy around as far as I am concerned.


Haha... yeah - though in the case of Hunter Express couriers, I reckon they'd still find a way to get through that ;)

But on a positive note, I finally got my board back - tail fixed - THANKS POLSY!
Tail's most likely stronger than new too :)

Of course I forgot all about the problem with one of the FCS fin slots having globs of resin spilled in it and the screw being glassed-in :( I should have got Polsy to fix that while he was doing the tail, but completely forgot about it... I spent about 30min to an hour trying to get it out, but no chance without doing some damage, so for now I'm using it as a single fin ;)

Been taking it out every day - loving the workout - I had no idea some of these muscles existed (or barely existed on me ;) )... first time on a SUP so still getting the hang of it - specially turning - reckon it's gonna be a while before I take this into the surf ;) Sooo much better than being in a stinky gym though - I know where I'd rather be any day.
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