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Gazuki
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26 Jul 2015 1:54pm
Hey Guys,

Been toying with getting a SUP for a while now, as a keen waterman I think I could use it a fair amount. One area which appeals to me and I'm trying to find out if you can use a sup in white water rapids?? The reason I ask is my brother lives out in Toodyay and toyed with a kayak but this could be the added reason for me justifying a SUP to the wife:)

Thanks in advance and I look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers,
Gaz.
Area10
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26 Jul 2015 2:46pm
Yes, of course. Google the Payette River Games. It's the event with the biggest prize money in SUP.

payetterivergames.com/
PTWoody
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26 Jul 2015 8:34pm
We've been white water sup'ing for a little while now, although this video might suggest otherwise...




We use boards designed specifically for white water. They are usually inflatable, as the hard boards cop a pounding on the rocks. My board is a Starboard Astro Stream, which was designed by white water pioneer, Dan Gavere.
Gazuki
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26 Jul 2015 7:27pm

Awesome! nice vid, that look like a heap of fun!

Thanks very much for the reply's.
Gazuki
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26 Jul 2015 7:29pm
Awesome, that looks like a heap of fun.

Thanks for the reply's guys.
PTWoody
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26 Jul 2015 10:12pm
Here's another clip:

Leroy13
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27 Jul 2015 10:21am
The best thing I've seen on this forum for 2 years. You (Woody) and the Teeps man are killing it!! Was that past Warrandyte? Absolutely brilliant!!
PTWoody
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27 Jul 2015 11:12am
Yeah the first clip was Kangaroo Ground into Warrandyte Bridge and the second clip was Pound Bend Warrandyte and Griffiths Park Eltham.
DavidJohn
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27 Jul 2015 4:08pm
PTWoody said..
We've been white water sup'ing for a little while now, although this video might suggest otherwise...




We use boards designed specifically for white water. They are usually inflatable, as the hard boards cop a pounding on the rocks. My board is a Starboard Astro Stream, which was designed by white water pioneer, Dan Gavere.


Thanks Paul.. great vid..
HBsups
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27 Jul 2015 5:10pm
Hey PTW
cool vid. Are those knee pads and shin guards SUP specific or are they generic types? I was thinking about doing some WW river supping and wondering whether I can get away with a generic set of knee pads to start with (although the idea of swimming in them does not appeal).
cheers HB
PTWoody
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27 Jul 2015 7:33pm
HBsups said..
Hey PTW
cool vid. Are those knee pads and shin guards SUP specific or are they generic types? I was thinking about doing some WW river supping and wondering whether I can get away with a generic set of knee pads to start with (although the idea of swimming in them does not appeal).
cheers HB



Not SUP specific. They are mountain bike / motocross pads. We've found the most likely injury is jagging your shins or knees on a rock so they are a good idea. I also wear motocross padded shorts under my boar dies - I'm like the Michelin man and everyone laughs at me. Until yesterday when Teeps came off and landed on his hip twice. He has a blue bruise right on the hip bone.

I think the only issue with these pads is making sure they don't soak up too much water in the padding. I remember wearing a pair of cricket pads while SUP'ing for a photo op stunt a few years ago and when I came off, I got sucked down and could easily have drowned under the weight. Presumably anything you get for a winter sport (motocross / soccer shin guards etc) will resist water much better than cricket pads.
PTWoody
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27 Jul 2015 7:39pm
PS. the other thing you want is booties or river shoes with some decent protection on the sole as you are going to be walking on sharp river rocks at some stage. However you have to be wary of anything that tightens up too much, for instance you wouldn't want laced up shoes. If your shoe gets jammed between rocks, you need to be able to pull your foot out easily with or without the shoe.

Also, standard leg ropes are not safe. You need something attached to your waist and preferably with a quick release.
bradsdubs
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27 Jul 2015 9:09pm
Thanks PTWOODY for posting..that looks so hard yet so much fun..the Starboards flatos look perfect for the task. Awesome.
Leroy13
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29 Jul 2015 1:30am
PTWoody said..





HBsups said..
Hey PTW
cool vid. Are those knee pads and shin guards SUP specific or are they generic types? I was thinking about doing some WW river supping and wondering whether I can get away with a generic set of knee pads to start with (although the idea of swimming in them does not appeal).
cheers HB








Not SUP specific. They are mountain bike / motocross pads. We've found the most likely injury is jagging your shins or knees on a rock so they are a good idea. I also wear motocross padded shorts under my boar dies - I'm like the Michelin man and everyone laughs at me. Until yesterday when Teeps came off and landed on his hip twice. He has a blue bruise right on the hip bone.

I think the only issue with these pads is making sure they don't soak up too much water in the padding. I remember wearing a pair of cricket pads while SUP'ing for a photo op stunt a few years ago and when I came off, I got sucked down and could easily have drowned under the weight. Presumably anything you get for a winter sport (motocross / soccer shin guards etc) will resist water much better than cricket pads.


Field Hockey goalie padded shorts are quite bulky but are extremely light and seem waterproof to me. They are designed to allow freedom of movement. I'm with you Woody it's certainly better than a broken hip(TEVA make some great river shoes BTW) Really gutsy effort with all those rocks IMHO. Did you scope out specific sites or just explore like the white water rapids canoe/kayak guys do?
PTWoody
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29 Jul 2015 12:21pm
We only go where we know the kayakers and canoes have been before, and whenever we come to a new section we've never done, someone will usually go down first on their knees to make sure it's passable.
HBsups
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29 Jul 2015 5:31pm
thanks for the response PTW
Looks like you guys are really putting some thought into it. The padded shorts sound like a great idea in shallow river runs. I think I read on SUPthemag that people have caught some fairly serious injuries falling and landing on the hips.
Looks like I'd better get some gear before I start dreaming about serious river trips.
I'm totally with you on avoiding things that can get you pinned. I've come close a couple of times doing silly things in rivers (rafting grade 3 in rafts made of truck tyre tubes) and I'm totally paranoid about getting pinned.
Cheers HB
Teeps
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5 Aug 2015 11:52pm
It's seriously the most fun I've had on a SUP in quite a while. It's not as hard as it looks especially on the right boards. The Astro Stream is a joy to paddle and bulletproof. Landing a drop, then spinning around and catching the suction eddy back up and 'surfing' the backdraft as you watch your mates give it a go is a hoot.

Blackfish make a great quick release bungee that I hook onto my PFD - keeps it away from snags and can be quickly removed to avoid traps.

The paddles take a battering as you tend to also use them to push off on rocks.

The hip bruise wasn't serious but just reminded me that rocks are hard!
Teeps
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5 Aug 2015 11:53pm
Cheers Leroy. Having a blast as always!
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