Forums > Stand Up Paddle General

Surf progression?

Reply
Created by stamp 1 month ago, 29 Aug 2018
stamp
QLD, 2601 posts
29 Aug 2018 9:38PM
Thumbs Up

Hey guys, i ride a naish mana 8'10 x 30.5" (133L) on the sunny coast. i'm 5'10 and about 75kg. it's my first and only board, and i started sup in Jan this year.

I ride on the sunny coast, beach and river breaks, in anything up to 3 - 4 foot (6 foot faces) at least three times weekly.

lately i find i'm frustrated with the apparent sluggish turning and slow reaction of the board. it's great fun in the fast steep stuff where you set a line and ride on the face, but in anything else i need to really stomp on the fins and pivot on the tail to turn the board. it bogs in and stalls when i try to dig in a rail and snap a turn.

i have bugger all knowledge of sup boards, but intuitively i feel like a board with more rocker, harder rails, less thickness and lower volume would result in a snappier reaction and greater liveliness under my feet.

am i better to work on technique, or step up to a different board? i reckon it is just as likely to be my lack of experience with sup as the board design itself, but to be honest i just don't know.

Thoughts anyone?

tightlines
WA, 3108 posts
29 Aug 2018 7:49PM
Thumbs Up

Yep drop a heap of volume.

Nugdam
190 posts
30 Aug 2018 4:41AM
Thumbs Up

I'm 100kg and ride a similar literage board. I test rode a a couple boards around 120l and the difference is amazing.

You being 70kg you could drop to a way smaller board.

P.s I'm from the coast too

Kami
1277 posts
30 Aug 2018 5:41AM
Thumbs Up

Like said Tighline drop a heap of volume. So I would say 90 liters for you. I draw an original shape of the Mana 8'10" 30,5" 133 liters then I asked the CAD to reduce the 3 dims (length width and thickness) to match the volume of the board at 90
The result is a 7'9" 27,75" 3,8" 90 liters with the same shape... just to said




Emeboy
NSW, 215 posts
30 Aug 2018 7:43AM
Thumbs Up

I agree with Nugdam above... I am also 100 kegs and my smallest board is 8'5 and 136ltrs... if you have the balance and stability wired.... start dropping volume (and width). See if you can demo some boards locally and go crazy... see how far you can push it and then find the sweet spot in the middle somewhere.

Greystoke
96 posts
30 Aug 2018 5:54AM
Thumbs Up

Yep, all of the above...the size of your board and your inexperience. Chat to Luke up at Ocean Addicts and trial some lower volume boards, once you have the right board it will then come down to time on the waves. If you have a surfing background, then it will be just a slight adjusting to the paddle as a pivot and combination of leaning and foot placement...you'll be carving in no time.

DiscoStupid
NSW, 69 posts
30 Aug 2018 8:18AM
Thumbs Up

Maybe even consider moving down in 2 steps, perhaps via a secondhand board as a stepping stone. e.g. something like like 8'6" * 29 110l or thereabouts.. and once you have that dialed in move close to or under 8' board circa 90l. If you are paddling as much as you do, then a board of this size is easily doable given your weight/height.

stamp
QLD, 2601 posts
30 Aug 2018 9:59AM
Thumbs Up

thanks for the input, everyone. i will try to demo a few smaller boards.

i don't think i'm ready to step down to 90-ish litres just yet, but i guess it depends on the board shape too...

Nugdam
190 posts
30 Aug 2018 8:06AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
stamp said..
thanks for the input, everyone. i will try to demo a few smaller boards.

i don't think i'm ready to step down to 90-ish litres just yet, but i guess it depends on the board shape too...




If it was me,

Id step down to 115 - 120ish first then go down again when you feel like you have it under control.

The 122l 8'6 x 29 vex pro isnt too bad of a board if you are after something to try for awhile. They also do a 115l 8 footers.. They get pretty cheap when they have a sale and sell quickly 2nd hand around here.

stamp
QLD, 2601 posts
30 Aug 2018 10:09AM
Thumbs Up

just saw the newbie footwork thread too. some great tips in those vids to improve my kook technique.

sup808
19 posts
30 Aug 2018 10:45AM
Thumbs Up

great topic, and am pondering the same question. I retired and moved to hawaii and basically started trying to paddle surf about a year ago in waikiki. I am 52 and 145 pounds. I bought a used 106l 8'5x29 starboard pro on craiglist and after only a few months wonder how much smaller I can go.
I now see a 7'7x27 92l board for sale on craigslist and wonder if I can ride it?

micksmith
VIC, 1197 posts
30 Aug 2018 2:20PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
sup808 said..
great topic, and am pondering the same question. I retired and moved to hawaii and basically started trying to paddle surf about a year ago in waikiki. I am 52 and 145 pounds. I bought a used 106l 8'5x29 starboard pro on craiglist and after only a few months wonder how much smaller I can go.
I now see a 7'7x27 92l board for sale on craigslist and wonder if I can ride it?


Yes indeedy, I ride an 8 x 28 103 ltr starby pro and I'm 82 kg ( 178 pounds?) 56 yrs not retired and probably never will

burleigh4220
QLD, 42 posts
30 Aug 2018 5:29PM
Thumbs Up

kaylan hovers between 53kg to 55kg .her purple 7ftx25 Garrett custom sup run at 68 litres,6/10 coral is 76 litres and blue 7//25.5 72 litres and I wouldn't skim anymore foam on her next board ..if you want a sup that works ,talk to Chris Garrett..

Emeboy
NSW, 215 posts
31 Aug 2018 9:52AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
burleigh4220 said..
kaylan hovers between 53kg to 55kg .her purple 7ftx25 Garrett custom sup run at 68 litres,6/10 coral is 76 litres and blue 7//25.5 72 litres and I wouldn't skim anymore foam on her next board ..if you want a sup that works ,talk to Chris Garrett..


68ltrs!! That's a prone shortboard for me!

Nugdam
190 posts
31 Aug 2018 11:58AM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
Emeboy said..

burleigh4220 said..
kaylan hovers between 53kg to 55kg .her purple 7ftx25 Garrett custom sup run at 68 litres,6/10 coral is 76 litres and blue 7//25.5 72 litres and I wouldn't skim anymore foam on her next board ..if you want a sup that works ,talk to Chris Garrett..



68ltrs!! That's a prone shortboard for me!


My longboard is 64l ha.. that's crazy

burleigh4220
QLD, 42 posts
31 Aug 2018 8:24PM
Thumbs Up

funny thing I bought a 9/3 DVS mal and Kaylan loves to Sup that as well



Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Stand Up Paddle General


"Surf progression?" started by stamp