Cant understand why Starboard would do this?? Surely they have a heap of pics of Connor shredding up waves and paddling downwind (on a starboard). False advertising in my book!

I posted this because I remember some saying that in the surfing world this is common practice. I could be wrong about the interpretation of the argument that was presented here but when I saw this on facebook I remembered a topic here.

byronmaui said...

I posted this because I remember some saying that in the surfing world this is common practice. I could be wrong about the interpretation of the argument that was presented here but when I saw this on facebook I remembered a topic here.

Maybe its common practice to photoshop a wetsuit or boardshort sponsor logo etc on the board but not another board logo and then advertise that the reason he is ripping is due to a board he is clearly not riding, got me stumped this one???

I think if he payed for the boards he can sticker them any way he wants. But if the boards were given to him it's wrong and deceiving .

Janbruun said...

I think if he payed for the boards he can sticker them any way he wants. But if the boards were given to him it's wrong and deceiving .

What if Starboard paid for them?

Mate I think if a board is payed for it's your property , stickers can be taken off. But if it's deceitful that's another mater.

So true so true. Why can't you get any board you want and sticker it?

Janbruun said...

So true so true. Why can't you get any board you want and sticker it?

because some people/suckers buy things because certain people/teams use that brand you can sticker all you want,just dont pretend it is what you make...fake

Maybe but if its in his contract it's fine. People do it in every sport. One thing that you cant take away from the kid he rips. Great paddler and represents his sponsors name,what more do you want!

It is really common for surfers to ride other shapers boards and sticker them up with there own spono logo as they have to as are paid to ride for that brand but they don't normally put stickers over the shapers logo... Though Jimmy was silly enough to give Connor a board without any logos?? Connor has to sticker it up that's what he is paid for ... But i honestly find it very funny that stArboard would use jimmy board in there advert and claim it as there own shows they don't look into what they are using or don't Care ... If any shortboard shaper did this they would be be laughing stock of the industry .... I don't even think the photo is that crash hot anyway.

Agree jimmy should use it for his own marketing,

THINKING OF BUYING A STARBOARD SUP....? THINK JIMMY LEWIS SUP BOARDS, the board of choice for starboard team rider Conner Baxter!

Unless there was some agreement between them?

Ok now I saw it...
But post title "the Argument Continue" doesn't really show what to expect as a news..
I just cancel my post but I would change the title of this one!!
Bye Jankie

reply from Starboard on Facebook:

www.facebook.com/notes/wwwstar-boardcom/a-word-from-svein-rasmussen-concerning-my-long-time-friend-jimmy-lewiss-claims-p/318161734886678

IMO.. Great reply from Svein and great that he made the effort to help clear some of this up.

DJ

I have never posted on a forum. But – after reading the posts on this subject, I felt it was time to give some background and insight to this subject.

My husband Keith Baxter - was really close friends with Jimmy Lewis – since the early 1970's. Keith helped Jimmy through a very hard and tough time of his life. And, Keith helped save Jimmy's life.

This obviously created a bond / friendship between Keith and Jimmy (over 40 years). So, when Keith or our two kids Ashley and Connor, needed custom boards – we went to Jimmy.

Jimmy made custom boards – for many pro athletes. Tow-in boards, surfboards, kiteboards, windsurfing boards, and now SUP boards. Jimmy also knew that these riders were sponsored by other companies.

But it was important for Custom Board Shapers like Jimmy, to make boards for Pro Athletes – even if they were sponsored by other companies.

Connor's first windsurfing board was made by Jimmy – when Connor was 8 years old. Connor was sponsored by Starboard at that time – but not one company in the windsurfing industry made small wave boards for a 35 lb kid. So, we had it made Custom.

Seven years later, Connor wanted a SUP gun – for big surf – Jaws, Sunset. This is before Starboard was making Guns. So – we asked Jimmy to make Connor a custom SUP gun. He was happy to do so – and made it totally white – did not even put a Jimmy Lewis logo on it – so that Connor could put all of his Sponsors logos on it. And – we PAID for this board!

Jimmy – knows that Connor is sponsored by Starboard. And, he knows that photos will be taken of him on that board and used.

In a comment from JL USA posted on Standup Zone's forum on January 30th – Jimmy admittedly states:

“I had adopted the policy of not making any custom boards for any riders who represented other companies, specifically for the reason that this problem is happening.”

Jimmy Admits he makes custom boards for riders representing other companies –and adopted a NEW policy not to make boards for them anymore – because of “problems”.

So – Jimmy – you made the board for Connor – had us pay for this board – and then adopted this NEW policy – but never let us know about your new policy.

Was this a Set Up?? After a 40 year relationship with our family – you set Connor up. A 15 year old kid! You used my son.

Why?? Oh – to sue Starboard for Money. The American Way. Don't make it – sue for it. Sell a board to a 15 year old sponsored kid – adopt a new policy – don't let the 15 yr old or the sponsor know of the new policy – and then sue!!

Jimmy - you destroyed relationships between our families. My daughter Ashley and your son Marlon both 21 years old – birthdays a couple months apart – grew up together. I've known you since 1985 – meeting you in Paia in Doug Hunts Surf Shop. And, Keith – you've known him since the 70's.

In the end – what have you accomplished?

One thing for sure – I have Zero respect for You. Setting up a 15 year old kid is pretty low Jimmy!! And, seriously - this is your pay back for my husband helping save your LIFE?

To all the readers – Connor nor Starboard did anything wrong. It has been standard practice in the water sports industries for athletes – pushing the limits – pushing themselves – ahead of the norm – or smaller than most in their sport – to order custom boards for their needs. And, there are custom board shapers that make these boards. And still do.

It is that simple.