Think I'm in love.. again.

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DavidJohn
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23 Aug 2014 4:50am
Carvers
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23 Aug 2014 6:12am
very nice, thanks for sharing and teasing. I am in love too, but not to get here for a while
AkeG
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23 Aug 2014 6:59am
DavidJohn said..


Dusty Springfield, Carbon construction......works for me!

so what's the ride like in words? ;-)
DavidJohn
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23 Aug 2014 9:23am
AkeG said..

DavidJohn said..



Dusty Springfield, Carbon construction......works for me!

so what's the ride like in words? ;-)


It's very fast.. It's very stable.. and it's very, very cool.. .. Yes I am in love..

Lets hope we get some good DW conditions soon.. Can't wait to see how it goes surfing runners.

I've taken some pictures.. Both my 2014 LEX26 and this GX x 28 Jav together.. and when I post them (soon) I'll explain more about how this new board paddles and performs.. and why so many of the very different design features have taken this new Naish to a whole new level..
AndyR
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23 Aug 2014 9:35am
What fin are you going to run for down winding on it?
waxer
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23 Aug 2014 9:28am
I think I'll be listening to Dusty singing "wishin'and hopin'".
Cobra
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23 Aug 2014 8:03am
I love my new cow , I milk it everyday.
DavidJohn
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23 Aug 2014 10:08am
AndyR said..
What fin are you going to run for down winding on it?


Probably a 9-10" dolphin fin in perfect condition.. Maybe the stock fin if there's any angle on the wind because the stock fin lets you opposite rail turn while on a runner better than any other fin that I've used making turning across the runners very easy.. I'm also keen to use the new radical Aercore fin because the wider tail on this board should give me the extra stability to use it.. At last Naish have put some V ahead of the fin box so surfing it left or right on a runner should be a whole lot easier than before.. The older Glides were always very flat in the tail.. Flat maybe good for speed but some v helps heaps with turning.. There's a whole lot going on with this new shape.. Love the nose.. No boofing.. No sprinklering.. It will be interesting to see if there's any catching once surfing runners.. Especially non planing surfing.
Antho
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23 Aug 2014 10:22am
Looks like you're trying to prove a point about the Jav's stability DJ
AndyR
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23 Aug 2014 11:53am
Cheers DJ.. You know fins that's for sure!
It's an aspect of the board that really interests me what works for what board and conditions
Desflurane
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23 Aug 2014 10:12am
Antho said..
Looks like you're trying to prove a point about the Jav's stability DJ


Haha, I resemble that remark
Well done on finally getting your board, looking forward to the downwind vids.
DavidJohn
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23 Aug 2014 12:47pm
Ha.. Re the stability thing.. I know why you said it felt a bit tippy at first.. I thought the same thing when I first stepped on my 12'6" x 30" Glide.. There's a sudden movement that makes you think it's going to tip.. It's unlike some other boards.. But secondary stability kicks in early and once you trust that initial tip the board soon becomes rock solid stable..
Stephenseals
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23 Aug 2014 1:17pm
DavidJohn said..


Nice one very funny I love new toy's, I don't touch them quite the same as you though, it's strange how the tail has gone wide in this model and last years falcon is so narrow I see in other videos that you have ridden the falcon 14ft do you find a big difference in stability with a wider tail?
laceys lane
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23 Aug 2014 1:49pm
i will be very interested to see how you go dw ing this board dj
Desflurane
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23 Aug 2014 1:41pm
DavidJohn said..
Ha.. Re the stability thing.. I know why you said it felt a bit tippy at first.. I thought the same thing when I first stepped on my 12'6" x 30" Glide.. There's a sudden movement that makes you think it's going to tip.. It's unlike some other boards.. But secondary stability kicks in early and once you trust that initial tip the board soon becomes rock solid stable..



Absolutely, haven't managed a completely flat water paddle yet, but 3 hours of paddling in chop have resulted in no falls
I think you're correct, initially feels unstable, but doesn't translate into falls. Something I've not felt before.
Certainly makes for a fast board
Grenfell
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24 Aug 2014 8:40am
The noses on these new Naish’s will not aid them in a decent open ocean swell….I don’t doubt their speed over flatish water but check back in 12months to see the podium results in any major races, I’d bet not one is anywhere close in anything with a decent swell.
DavidJohn
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24 Aug 2014 9:07am
Grenfell said..
The noses on these new Naish’s will not aid them in a decent open ocean swell….I don’t doubt their speed over flatish water but check back in 12months to see the podium results in any major races, I’d bet not one is anywhere close in anything with a decent swell.


Don't be so sure.. Does the Maliko run have a decent swell? .. It probably one of the most decent swell places in the world.. Most of the regular Maliko runners using this new board are knocking huge chunks of time off their best times ever.. and loving this new shape.. Look at the progress of the SIC DW boards and compare V1 to their V2's and now their V3's and see how the nose shape and rocker is changing.. I think the older shapes still work.. and they work well.. But are more suited to a relaxed paddler that doesn't move much and just enjoys the ride.. These new shapes will catch bumps that the old shapes won't.. and stay on them longer.. Thus making them faster if the paddler is not so relaxed and prepared to move around more to make the board work.. Also.. there's so much more going on with this new board than just the nose shape.. I'm pretty sure Naish know what they're doing here and have not just made something that looks very different to everyone else just for the sake of being different.. It will be interesting to see if other major brands like Fanatic, Starboard, DC/NSP and Coreban start changing their shapes to something similar.. I guess time will tell..
laceys lane
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24 Aug 2014 6:39pm
Well DJ some one is telling porkies then. The mail we,ve been getting is excellent fast in the flats, forget about DW ing them.

That's what we are hearing around the traps.

I tending to believe not so good DW ing because of all those edges right up to the nose.

I like the looks of the board in the water looks a goer in the flats.


Happy to be proven wrong.

And before anyone gets there nickers in a knot its a public forum and its been posted and debate is good

Cheers
DavidJohn
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24 Aug 2014 8:11pm
laceys lane said..
Well DJ some one is telling porkies then. The mail we,ve been getting is excellent fast in the flats, forget about DW ing them.

That's what we are hearing around the traps.

I tending to believe not so good DW ing because of all those edges right up to the nose.

I like the looks of the board in the water looks a goer in the flats.


Happy to be proven wrong.

And before anyone gets there nickers in a knot its a public forum and its been posted and debate is good

Cheers


Thanks LL.. Yes I know it's hard to know what and who to believe these days.. and don't worry.. No one is getting their nickers in a knot..

I want it mostly for downwinding so if it's not working there I will sell it and buy another 29" wide 14' GS Glide.. and maybe pull my finger out and start using my LEX26 more..

Maybe if it's not working for some people because they are just so used to something else.. or don't know how to make it work.

In my short paddle on it I loved the no-boof thing.. and the no-sprinkler thing.. The sprinkler thing is something the LEX26 and most other brand DW boards do because the water is getting sucked and wrapping around the big soft rails in the nose area.. Also when the nose goes under on this new shape there doesn't seem to be any slowing or pushing of water.. and I love how the extra volume there lifts the nose up much better and quicker than before.. Ever since the first Glide I've been wondering why aren't they using concaves.. We know from windsurfing slalom boards concaves work and work well.. They help make a board jump onto the plane and stay planing for much longer.. That's just what you need for downwinding.. Starboard started using them and theirs have got bigger and deeper over the years.. One of their new 2015 shapes has a very interesting huge concave in the tail.. Can't wait to see and hear how that goes.. I also used to think why oh why aren't they giving us more v to help with turning while surfing a runner.. I've been involved with the design and making of at least a dozen windsurfing slalom boards for myself and those boards are the closest thing to a DW board IMO.. If we made a slalom board so flat in the fin box area it would be way too stiff and hard to turn without digging a rail really deep like when power jibing.. But that's something you'd never be doing on a DW board.. I'm also loving the big wider tail.. Why did it take them so long to work that one out.. .. As much as this new board is very very different it's actually just an evolution of the original Glide/Jav.. I really like what I see.. But liking what I see and it actually working are two different things.. Can't wait to be proven right or wrong when we finally get so good DW conditions..




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