Training on a wider/slower board.

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oldgumtree
oldgumtree
39 posts
39 posts
28 May 2014 12:59pm
Hey Guys!

So Im looking at upgrading my current board to something a tad faster when the next round of boards arrive. I?m currently on a 12'6 by 30'' board. So its not exactly a bullet, but I can still knock out some decent k's under her.

So Im wondering if it would be worth me keeping it as a training board? And only using the new board for club races and events?

My thinking is that if I can do a certain time/distant on the big wide board, surely It would be much easier/faster on the skinny girl during races..

The only down side I can think of is not being used to the stability of the new board. But Im only thinking 26/27'', so not something crazy unstable..

So does anyone else do this? Or has anyone done this before?

If so, does it work? What do you think?
gregc
gregc
VIC
1299 posts
VIC, 1299 posts
28 May 2014 3:31pm
I would say go to a 14 footer if you are talking a race board and don't think that 26 or 25 inches is super narrow boards are becoming super stable. Just my opinion though, first thing is demo as many boards as you can, form a relationship with your local shop so you have someone you trust talking to you. My local shop has become my best friend in relation to my board choice and has saved me from making some truthfully awful buying decisions.
Ricey1
Ricey1
QLD
44 posts
QLD, 44 posts
28 May 2014 3:40pm
I went from a 12'6" by 30" (Naish) to a 12'6" by 27" (Fanatic Falcon) recently. At first I was a bit disappointed as it seemed there was surprisingly little difference in speed. However, after a couple of weeks, I worked out I needed to paddle the new board a bit differently, and I am now definitely quicker on the new one - 2-3 minutes on average over 6km (20-30 seconds/km). I did also get a new paddle which I believe also contributed to the extra speed, so I can't put it all down to the new board.
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
28 May 2014 3:54pm
I rekon 25 to 27" is the ideal width. I think you should train and race on the same board. Do you remember when you where a kid and you would ride your pushy everywhere , and then get on your mates or a new one and it felt different? You get used to your board and so does your body , so the more you ride the better you will perform on it. Some may say as your balance gets better you can go narrower , well your balance doesn't get better you just become more accustomed to the boards nuances!
magillamelb
magillamelb
VIC
627 posts
VIC, 627 posts
28 May 2014 3:59pm
I think there's merit in what you talk about, however, whilst you may do a fair chunk of training on your 30" wide board, you still need to get used to the narrower board in all sorts of conditions. In saying that if the water is chopped up for whatever reason and you can almost guarantee you can stay on your wider board for whatever you're doing, then consider it over the narrower one where you have less stability. You lose around 20 seconds with each spill, so the question is are you more than 60 seconds faster on the narrower board over a race distance if you fall off 3 times as opposed to being more stable on the wider board and not falling off? Do the sums based on your best times over the two boards. You may be surprised over the result.

There's a lot to be said for racing at club level and being able to 'keep your head out of the board' so to speak and concentrate on wind, waves, competitors & tactics as opposed your primary focus in staying upright.

Then again I've gone from a 30" wide Fanatic Falcon to a 26.5" Flatwater Falcon and the Flatwater board has as much stability.

snot
snot
NSW
157 posts
NSW, 157 posts
28 May 2014 7:05pm
Ive just gone through the same thing, DC 14 30" down to a 25" Fanatic, i had the same idea as you but quickly realised you need to train on the board your going to race, my advice, get one of your mates on the 30" get them hooked and bang two birds with one stone, you'll be paddling faster and have anew paddle bud!
itbjam
itbjam
VIC
100 posts
VIC, 100 posts
28 May 2014 10:00pm
Strength in the legs,if you are paddling on a thinner board you need to train on it. Also do leg training exercises on a bosso board. I think thats how you spell it???. The stronger the legs the more control you'll have.
log man
log man
VIC
8289 posts
VIC, 8289 posts
29 May 2014 12:11pm
Change boards........OR...........Don't bother

I think we have to acknowledge that we're paddling inherently slow watercraft. If speed is the aim, kneel or sit down with a kayak paddle or paddle a boat thats 20 feet long.........ah! that's a ski.

If it's some sort of competition then we need to accept that all the old bastards on this site will get their arses kicked by someone who's younger......sad but true.

If it's some sort of "hey I did my personal best time" thing, then great!.........kind of.......but isn't it like holding the lap record at Bathhurst on a posty bike! Great........kind of!

IMO, there are some things that SUP is great for.....surfing, cruising, downwinding, fishing, peering into the water, etc...........but flat water racing????

OK, I know I'm in the minority(of 1 probably)......and PTCruiser has kicked my arse when I've crapped on about racing before but .......FFS I just don't get it!
oldgumtree
oldgumtree
39 posts
39 posts
29 May 2014 5:38pm
Thanks lads!.. I'll probably end up keeping both. And in reality I probably wouldn't be able to paddle the old girl all the time, knowing that I have a new shiny toy sitting in the shed.

Log man - Racing of any kind has never really been my thing. But for some reason sup racing has just sparked something in me. And to tell you the truth it's the first time I've ever really focused on my health and fitness, so I see that as a good aspect of racing.
sup46
sup46
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
30 May 2014 3:16pm
maybe try this? get the new board, to get you used to it, as most say, then do your resistance training into the wind to get the drag effect? theres all sorts of towing options as well.
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