Whats better to supplement training?

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teatrea
teatrea
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19 Apr 2012 2:00pm
When doing weights is it better for sup to do high reps low weight or heavy weight low reps? Or Both?
jamdfingr
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19 Apr 2012 2:05pm
any weight lifting (unless youre a body builder) should be low weight with many reps.

Your will build stamina and strength while not building bulky muscle.

You also have less chance of hurting yourself and over developing muscles.

teatrea
teatrea
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19 Apr 2012 2:15pm
Cheers , so what would be considered high reps for an exercise say bench press 10 20 30 ?
lookToSea
lookToSea
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19 Apr 2012 2:15pm
i think for sup, the rep speed is important too. low weight fast high reps
boylos
boylos
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19 Apr 2012 2:54pm
teatrea said...

Cheers , so what would be considered high reps for an exercise say bench press 10 20 30 ?


I look to do 2sets 10 ,2 sets 15 , 1 set 20 ...... this is on all exercises with short rest in between ..... maybe do a set of sit ups between sets.

Would be good if someone could fine a sup weight training program , would be good to see what the elilte guys are doing.

Boylos

surf4fun
surf4fun
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19 Apr 2012 1:03pm
Depends what you are training for, endurance or short sprint races. For short sprint races you need to get off to a flying start so you need your muscles to have explosive power and to use your short twitch muscle fibers and to teach your body to work efficiently in an anaerobic state. Conversely training for longer races you need to call on your slow twitch muscle fibers.

Thats if you are training for a specific event, however for general fitness you need to find the balance.
teatrea
teatrea
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19 Apr 2012 3:03pm
boylos said...

teatrea said...

Cheers , so what would be considered high reps for an exercise say bench press 10 20 30 ?


I look to do 2sets 10 ,2 sets 15 , 1 set 20 ...... this is on all exercises with short rest in between ..... maybe do a set of sit ups between sets.

Would be good if someone could fine a sup weight training program , would be good to see what the elilte guys are doing.

Boylos

Yeah would be , thinking of getting some kettlebells too.




petedorries
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19 Apr 2012 3:17pm
All the above
Mix it up

High reps 20 up to 50 or more
low reps 3/4 up to 10 or 12
russh
russh
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19 Apr 2012 2:52pm
If you want one a really good guide to sport preparation macro cycles micro cycles strength and endurance and peaking / tapering check out Jess jarvers book through SA sport institute - great training resource adaptable to most sports - an oldie but a goodie - it might be available as an e book im not sure - has a great section on athlete weight training - cant remember exact title - was my triathlon training bible

EDIT - doesnt look like its available anymore

Modern Principles in Coaching and Training: Jarver, Jess
Haighy
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19 Apr 2012 3:50pm
Laird Hamilton's book "Force of Nature" has a chapter devoted to gym work specifically for SUP. He calls it "The Circuit" and it incorporates 15 exercises. He suggests three ways to complete the circuit:
1. Basic - 3 rounds - first is 25 reps; second is 15 reps and third is 5 reps. Weight is altered so that you can just complete the targeted number of reps.
2. One-round Endurance - 40 to 60 reps of each exercise, maintained good form (with light weights).
3. "The Grand" - 6 rounds - 30 reps; 20 reps; 10 reps; 5 reps; 15 reps; 25 reps.

Circuits 1 and 3 take lots of time 1-2 hours...so for us mere mortals, that is unlikely to be a common occurrance. However, I have altered the Basic Circuit so that it can be done in under an hour.
Adapt
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19 Apr 2012 4:03pm
petedorries said...

All the above
Mix it up

High reps 20 up to 50 or more
low reps 3/4 up to 10 or 12


+1

The body needs change to adapt otherwise you gain no results, Macro and micro cycles can be confusing, but if you stick with the rules of changing your program no matter what every 12 weeks and no less then 4 weeks, alwys pushing harder then the last time you will gain results. Its all about Tempo, time and type.
jamdfingr
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19 Apr 2012 4:22pm
Or, you could just SUP more and in doing so, will develop the stamina and muscle tone required for SUPing!

It's much more interesting too than looking at yourself in a mirror at a gym!
teatrea
teatrea
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19 Apr 2012 4:32pm
jamdfingr said...

Or, you could just SUP more and in doing so, will develop the stamina and muscle tone required for SUPing!

It's much more interesting too than looking at yourself in a mirror at a gym!


Not as interesting as looking a girls in the mirror at the gymI dont go to the gym hate it , but you cant always get to the water.
Deano72
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19 Apr 2012 5:12pm
High reps of bicep curls every night with light weight....what does a stubby weigh??
Supstoke
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19 Apr 2012 7:29pm
Pyramid your sets : 3 to 4 sets per muscle group, start with a light weight with high reps in the 15 to 20 rep range and finish with a hevy weight in the 6 to 8 rep range.
All sets are to failure. The high reps will improve stamina and the hevy weight low reps will increase strength, but be sure to up your protein intake.
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