Which allround SUP surf board 9 to 10ft ?

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Lord Vader
Lord Vader
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2 Apr 2011 8:44am
looking for a do it all sup surf board in the 9 to 10 ft range.

93kgs with intermediate skills looking to better my surf skills while still having fun on waves from knee high crap mush to solid glassy gold.
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
2 Apr 2011 12:32pm
Check out the Naish 9'5" Mana.. It's a beauty.. .. You can't go wrong with one of these..

A good friend just bought one and picks it up on Monday.. Her's even has the new Naish handle.

DJ

russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
2 Apr 2011 12:26pm
Coreban fusion
JonathanC
JonathanC
VIC
1024 posts
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2 Apr 2011 2:46pm
The Starboard Hero 9' x 33 is a fantastic option for the conditions you describe.
The other Starboard option is the 9'8 x 30 Element would be more challenging stability wise but a great board that I'm sure you would grow into.

As DJ says the 9'5 Mana is a great board too, interesting to compare volumes, 9'5 Mana 190l, 9' Hero 146l, 9'8 Element 153l. The volume has a big effect on surfing and will really change the way the board feels on the wave, that's why the best thing to do is try out as many different boards and work out if you want to sacrifice some comfort and stability for higher performance when you improve and the waves are glassy. There is no "right" board!

All the big brand boards have been refined over a few generations and you can't really go too far wrong as long as you get the width and volume right, beyond that it comes down to the style and feel of the board to suit the way you surf and the conditions.
sparki
sparki
WA
410 posts
WA, 410 posts
2 Apr 2011 12:32pm
I've got a Starboard 9'1" x 29" pro. I'm 85kgs and have intermediate skills too. At first the board seems a bit tippy, being an inch under the norm for SUBs, but once you get used to it (quite easy with practice). The board is great in all surf - it is fast and dynamic. It's obviously not great a flat water paddling (speed wise), but it's great to have some fun just paddling around looking at stuff. Starboard have said that the board could be equated to a 6'4" short board. So true - you can do all your turns and what-not, but the board can also take sizable waves on well, just like a 6'4". I've got an older, rounded nose model, but I'm sure the new pointy nose models will be even more fun for performance needs.
ODSUP
ODSUP
NSW
282 posts
NSW, 282 posts
2 Apr 2011 4:00pm
Try an Australian Made Dale Chapman 9ft
hunto
hunto
NSW
26 posts
NSW, 26 posts
2 Apr 2011 10:39pm
i am about 93 kgs love this board 9.9 jimmy lewis mano
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
2 Apr 2011 7:46pm
russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
VIC
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3 Apr 2011 12:49am
oliver said...

russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.


The Coreban 10' Icon or 9'6" performer would also do the trick.
SwellSC
SwellSC
26 posts
26 posts
3 Apr 2011 12:52am
oliver said...

russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.


same here
airsail
airsail
QLD
1604 posts
QLD, 1604 posts
3 Apr 2011 9:48am
Suplove 9'4" Mach 1, good volume, flatter rocker for good glide on the flat and getting onto a wave. Nice narrow nose for pushing through the white wash and chop, very little slapping. Great price
jasdeking
jasdeking
QLD
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3 Apr 2011 10:07am
all of these .. you may find the performer more tippy than the icon however.

also check out the simon anderson range
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
3 Apr 2011 10:29am
oliver said...

russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.


I didn't reliase there was a religious link with the boards. But I must say they are heavenley to ride in 1-4foot surf of any nature
oliver
oliver
3952 posts
3952 posts
3 Apr 2011 4:45pm
russh said...

oliver said...

russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.


I didn't reliase there was a religious link with the boards. But I must say they are heavenley to ride in 1-4foot surf of any nature


Coreban means, "Dedicated to God"

On another note - their old website sucked big time - all those pinball sounds when you hover your mouse over the navigation.

http://www.coreban.com/about.html
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
3 Apr 2011 8:04pm
oliver said...

russh said...

oliver said...

russh said...

Coreban fusion


Yep, I'm a subscriber, and I'm not even into god.


I didn't reliase there was a religious link with the boards. But I must say they are heavenley to ride in 1-4foot surf of any nature


Coreban means, "Dedicated to God"

On another note - their old website sucked big time - all those pinball sounds when you hover your mouse over the navigation.

http://www.coreban.com/about.html


Hey that is an odd sound.. I wonder if it's the devil talking if you can play it backwards..

DJ

CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
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3 Apr 2011 8:17pm
Get real value for your new board and include speaking to the bloke that designed it as part of the deal.

Same price, better value!
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
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3 Apr 2011 8:27pm
CMC said...

Get real value for your new board and include speaking to the bloke that designed it as part of the deal.

Same price, better value!


Well that depends on just who that 'bloke' is..

DJ

Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish
QLD
1333 posts
QLD, 1333 posts
3 Apr 2011 8:30pm
ODSUP said...

Try an Australian Made Dale Chapman 9ft



Not too many sup riders seem to care about riding OS made boards.
Strange. I bought my hand made in Noosa Laguna bay for less than a new pop out from OS.
I know Tully has the Surftech models but I specifically chose one of his eps/epoxy models made in the factory.
Very happy to support our blank makers, shapers & glassers.

russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
3 Apr 2011 10:36pm
When custom shapers have a board available locally that you can demo then maybe people would be more willing to purchase - custom = buyer beware - if ya dont like it too bad - if you can demo a production or three and it works at least ya know what ya gettin - even if it wasn't what you thought you ordered
Bnaccas
Bnaccas
VIC
1722 posts
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3 Apr 2011 11:37pm
russh said...

When custom shapers have a board available locally that you can demo then maybe people would be more willing to purchase - custom = buyer beware - if ya dont like it too bad - if you can demo a production or three and it works at least ya know what ya gettin - even if it wasn't what you thought you ordered


I understand and agree somewhat...2 years ago I was looking for a custom SUP because the manufacturers weren't building
quality performance surf SUP's but nothing was available locally. It was a bit of a gamble ordering a custom from interstate.

So I had a go at making my own and it did filled the gap at the time.

Now with the majors building quality performance boards like the Coreban Nitro, Naish Hokua's etc I have gone back to production.
BUT if you have a good local custom shaper it's definitely worth considering.
Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish
QLD
1333 posts
QLD, 1333 posts
4 Apr 2011 8:19am
russh said...

When custom shapers have a board available locally that you can demo then maybe people would be more willing to purchase - custom = buyer beware - if ya dont like it too bad - if you can demo a production or three and it works at least ya know what ya gettin - even if it wasn't what you thought you ordered


True enough.
However...
I also went to a demo day recently and there were two manufacturers with demo boards.
One of the biggest names in sups (OS production) and a Gold coast manufacturer.
So the choice was there head to head.
One thing to consider....forums like these are a great place for gaining knowledge.
Before I bought my sup I read through impressive amounts of reviews and articles to figure out which route to take.
So in the end I was confident enough to go and see Tully, discuss what I was after and follow his suggestions.
End result was great.
Helps to come from a lifetime surfing background too as I already have a good understanding of what a board will do under my feet with different design aspects.
I've seen first hand the customers standing in a sup shop and choosing a board entirely on it's graphics and pretty colours.
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
4 Apr 2011 9:14am
I think the custom crew do some great boards and understand crew are happy with the shapes and the way they work - I use to buy the odd custom shortboards but got caught out a couple of times with boards that didn't come out the way we discussed - shapers interpretation - one from a well known QLD based interstate brand - maybe came down to the shaper - possibly thats why I have a reluctance towards customs when there are good easily accessable boards on the market. My last custom from 15 years ago still gets ridden every now and then - shaper produced exactly what he said he would and it still works.

Its probably not much different with windsurf gear - there are some custom guys building great boards - just some reluctance for crew to go past the name brands for resale value.
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
4 Apr 2011 10:04am
russh said...

I think the custom crew do some great boards and understand crew are happy with the shapes and the way they work - I use to buy the odd custom shortboards but got caught out a couple of times with boards that didn't come out the way we discussed - shapers interpretation - one from a well known QLD based interstate brand - maybe came down to the shaper - possibly thats why I have a reluctance towards customs when there are good easily accessable boards on the market. My last custom from 15 years ago still gets ridden every now and then - shaper produced exactly what he said he would and it still works.

Its probably not much different with windsurf gear - there are some custom guys building great boards - just some reluctance for crew to go past the name brands for resale value.


Most shapers that I know now (even the big brands) will sit down with you and design the board you are getting on a computer design program. They start with a proven design and then modify this based upon your feedback. Yes, of course the process works better if you have an idea what works for you....... BUT. If you are not a design guru the advantage is that you have a stable starting point for your next board.

You get to approve the shape and design as it is staring at you on the screen before it is shaped. How do you know it will work? You choose a shaper based upon reputation not just because he is cheap....... No this is not anti import or anti anything. I dream of sitting down with Blane or Harold or even Hiu Fang in Shangzou to order a custom....

Working out what works for you is a process of elimination and I do not believe that this can be fully achieved well when buying generic models based on descriptions in catalogues. You can be lucky and strike it perfect and guys obviously rip on them regardless BUT where would they be if they could refine the small things at their level????

Take for example you have a board that works extremely well in clean conditions on waves but you find it a bit tippy when it's bumpy. If you are working with a shaper you can simply give him this feedback. He can then take that design file of your existing board and make it a touch wider or add volume to the rail and you have a board that feels very similar but does more of what you liked. You kept rockers, bottom contours etc etc the same but modified single elements.

How many sports are there in the world where you can participate in the exact same process as the world champions to design your equipment for the same price as a generic pop out? We are lucky in surfing.....

The alternative is of course to just get a pile of catalogues and look for something that you think does what you want to change. As I said above, talking with a shaper, designing the board, being a part of it all is such a great process I honestly don't know how people think that simply buying something generic can even compare in value.

Flame suit put on. Bring it on.............
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
4 Apr 2011 10:03am
^^^^^Well said - don't disagree with most of it - just the cost of continually trying to get it right - when I got my customs no one had computer shaping, it was all hand done - hard to replicate sometimes.

For 90% of the surfing population we don't know what we really want and when we can try all different combinations without spending ****loads of money - Hence why demos are so good - I tried a heap of boards before I settled on my current ride - incuding a "Aussie semi custom"- they all had there strong points and some of them just didn't go well at all in the surf

I'd love to have the cash to experiment with various combo's and continually change customs as you discussed but I don't so something that does 90% well is what I settled for.



pmorgan1974
pmorgan1974
NSW
1080 posts
NSW, 1080 posts
4 Apr 2011 12:29pm
Depends on a few things. But I am 87 and surf on the 9' fanatic, and have played on the 9'6 too. 9'6 is a fun board, pretty stable and surfs well. A good fit in the that range anyway.
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