Who is SUP-Australia Inc?

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mikeman
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28 Jan 2011 6:21pm
Can anyone tell me what this new group Sup-Australia Inc is all about? I've been away for a while and was a little surprised to see the following claim being made in another thread by Straightup:

"...Australia's new national Stand Up Paddle Association, SUP Australia Inc, has been formed to liaise with government departments such as Marine Safety VIC and provide proper and full consultation from people who represent the industry. Consultation information will be posted shortly on their website. www.sup-australia.com"

I went onto their web site and could not work out who represents this group is or where they are based. They only have 2 QLD and 2 NSW listed as affiliated clubs. Somehow one of the founding SUP club in Australia (SUPSA on the Gold Coast) is not listed, which makes me wonder exactly how representive of SUP they really are.

I was also surprised to see 4 sponsors backing this new group. I am at a loss to see how any group can claim to represent SUP in liasing with govt departments when they have strong commercial interests.

Can anyone enlighten me?
Eastcoast SUP
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28 Jan 2011 7:29pm
went onto their web site and could not work out who represents this group is or where they are based.


From the ABOUT page on the website you can view the committee:

supaustralia.sport.blog/about/

Simondo
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28 Jan 2011 7:54pm
I'm starting to understand !!

Stand Up Paddling is kind of at 1970-1975 in Surfing Terms.... Everyone has chopped a couple of feet off their boards, and there is a break-away organisation.... ???

Just throwing it into the arena !!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Surfing_Professionals
Piros
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28 Jan 2011 7:11pm
Lets not jump the gun here because guys have done the hard yards and formed Sup -Australia.They are calling for new members from every state. If you don't have sponsorship it will go no where.

The sport is growing so fast it will need some form of state and national control , yes the Vics seem to be leading the charge because they are under the pump the most from regulatory control.

I'm a great supporter of Supsa here on the Gold Coast and I'm sure they will be included they just need to stick their hand up. Same with the Sunny coast and Sydney. Casso is evolved so you can assume the Sydney boys are included.

Yes I'm a bit suss on it but lets find out the full story before we can it.
Simondo
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28 Jan 2011 8:18pm
Piros said...

lets find out the full story before we can it.


No one is canning it. (?) Just inquisitive questions I think.
Piros
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28 Jan 2011 7:24pm
Just found out Supsa is not supporting it they are staying with surfing Qld & Aust who are putting in serious money ....so that's me out I could delete last comment but I'll leave it for now. This needs serious discussion

Who actually started it ?
PTWoody
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28 Jan 2011 8:46pm
Piros said...

Just found out Supsa is not supporting it they are staying with surfing Qld & Aust who are putting in serious money ....so that's me out



So it's like World Series Cricket vs the Establishment. I guess I know what side I'm lined up on...








brownie49
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28 Jan 2011 8:49pm
I see the ASI surfing instructor mob are involved, maybe they have started it???

They seem to be in competition to Surfing Aust and the State bodies as they deliver surf coaching courses that were once the exclusive domain of Surfing Aust

Its funny as I followed the links and found a SUP Love club at Cronulla, as a local I have not heard of that???

Maybe some shop or on line retailers in the mix of clubs and sponsors so it maybe a linking of some people to formulate the training and regulation side of it

Its a guess but it may be the beginning of the Surfing Aust vs ASI

Not being critical, just what I found on the web pages

It will be interesting to see what comes of it all

Piros
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28 Jan 2011 7:58pm
Yeah just found out some of the names on their list aren't supportive of it. Starting to look like a commercially driven project.....


Makaha
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28 Jan 2011 6:34pm
Why would you not support your state bodies surfing qld,surfing vic and so on.
Why would you waist your time forming a NEW association WHY.

Bloody pioneers again
Mixup
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28 Jan 2011 10:13pm
Looking at some sporting bodies around the world who choose to have regions or states doing different things it creates alot of inconsistencies in standards etc, very frustrating for members. If contest rules were just one topic there maybe complications at a national level if Qld follow one set and Vic follow a different set of guidelines. Hopefully the state bodies are all included or consulted in the process. Just a thought, interesting topic though!
teatrea
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28 Jan 2011 10:38pm
shows you how big sup is becoming with this crap starting.welcome to the mainstream
Bnaccas
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29 Jan 2011 1:04am
What I don't get is that it says under the membership section,
"Join your local SUP Club and you automatically become a member"

So if you join SUPSA or SUP Vic or your local SUP club etc then you become a member of SUP Australia.
I guess that means I'm owed a t-shirt!
DavidJohn
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29 Jan 2011 2:14am
I'll make some calls on monday and try and find out what's going on with them.

Max is doing a great job for us down here and I don't like to hear them speak about him like that.

DJ
hilly
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29 Jan 2011 12:06am
Piros said...

Yeah just found out some of the names on their list aren't supportive of it. Starting to look like a commercially driven project.....





Who is not supportive on this list?



NSW

Will Anido
Darren Borg
Simon Dodd
Andrew Cassidy
Stuart Murray
Samantha Williams
QLD

Jamie Mitchell
Paul Jackson
Woogie Marsh
Jodie Marsh

WA

Courtnay Gray
Perry Hatchett
Cinde Fisher
Phil Mercer
Fernanda Gray
VIC

Emma Webb
CMC
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29 Jan 2011 11:17am
Cut and Paste on the 2 relevant posts.

Not real good at this are you?

You might start by letting people know who you are, what you plan to achieve, the benefits of supporting you etc etc.

Edit: the post I was referring to was deleted.
JonathanC
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29 Jan 2011 12:33pm
Just googled it and came up with this.....

SUP Australia Inc.
SUP Australia Inc. Peak Body Finally Born!!! » Standup Paddlesurfing in Australia has been crying out for a national association and finally due to. ...
newcastlesup.com.au/website/index.php?option=com...view...

If the group is going to have any credibility full disclosure on who is behind it is crucial and actually just polite.


Minkee
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29 Jan 2011 11:58am
There's some big names in that list eh... There goes the credibility of that supa thingy...


hilly said...

Piros said...

Yeah just found out some of the names on their list aren't supportive of it. Starting to look like a commercially driven project.....





Who is not supportive on this list?



NSW

Will Anido
Darren Borg
Simon Dodd
Andrew Cassidy
Stuart Murray
Samantha Williams
QLD

Jamie Mitchell
Paul Jackson
Woogie Marsh
Jodie Marsh

WA

Courtnay Gray
Perry Hatchett
Cinde Fisher
Phil Mercer
Fernanda Gray
VIC

Emma Webb



hilly
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29 Jan 2011 11:25am
Minkee said...

There's some big names in that list eh... There goes the credibility of that supa thingy...


Can you explain that comment not sure I follow
Minkee
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29 Jan 2011 2:05pm
It means I'd rather listen to the people of that list considering the pedigree of some of the members.
sorry i wasnt clear the first time.
Surfrod66
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29 Jan 2011 4:01pm
From what I can understand, If your want to start a SUP Boardriders club you have to get insurance, which you can get from 1 of 2 places Surfing Nsw (Surfing Australia) or ASI Academy of Surfing Instructors. When we started our club the quote for insurance was much cheeper from ASI and they were very helpful with the setting up of our club (telling us how to register with the dept of fairtrading and local council etc)
From what I understand SUP Australia is being Run by them I think.. Or am I wrong..
When there used to be only 1 supplier of Insurance for Board riders Clubs I am told the insurance cost was much higher..
That my understanding let me know if I am wrong!!
hilly
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29 Jan 2011 1:22pm
Minkee said...

It means I'd rather listen to the people of that list considering the pedigree of some of the members.
sorry i wasnt clear the first time.


Agree it would be nice to hear from one directly rather than hysterical ranting of second hand opinions.
mikeman
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29 Jan 2011 4:23pm
Thanks for everyone's input so far. When I posted this I was genuinely curious about them. They made some big claims and I had personally not heard of them before.

On their web site this is what they say about themselves:

"SUP Australia Inc is a not-for-profit body created to support the growth of stand up paddle in Australia.

Our charter is to:

be the peak body for the sport of SUP in Australia
•provide a co-ordinated approach for SUP dedicated events and competitions
•provide support to affiliated SUP clubs
•be a reference authority on SUP matters for councils, government departments and the general public
•work with peak SUP bodies in other countries
•promote SUP education
•be inclusive to all"


teatrea
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29 Jan 2011 7:07pm
I may support it if it means more events comps ect.I think it would be good to have our own sup body , i dont like the idea of sup being controlled by surfing aus or queensland or outrigger clubs for that matter.When you are affiliated with another sport or dicipline you will always play second fiddle. The sports getting big enough to stand up on its own.Parden the pun
mbuzz
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29 Jan 2011 9:16pm
Have met a few names on the SUP-Australia list and they are all really passionate about the sport. I think I'd rather belong to an organisation set up by paddle boarders for paddle boarders, than a surfing boys club that has tagged paddle boarding on.
Casso
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29 Jan 2011 11:31pm
Yep, SUP Australia is a new governing body which has been set up to solely support the competitive SUP disciplines (surfing and racing) in Australia. It is a not for profit organisation and appears to have our best interests at hand. It means we can have events which are dedicated to our sport that don't have to be incorporated with other shortboard, longboard, canoe or ski events.

There are currently plans in place for an Australian Championship Tour with approximately 20 standalone SUP events around the country in 2011.

At this stage I am supporting SUP Australia as it will be extending the SUP event calendar in Australia - which, in my opinion, this is a great thing for our sport and for those of us who like to compete or those who want to start competing.

The Sydney Paddle Surfing Club is also supporting SUP Australia because the insurance costs seem to be the best value around.

BTW - I have no official role at SUP Australia, beyond being an advisor of sorts, or a surfer/racer representative.

Disclaimer - I am also a surfer/racer representative for Surfing NSW and fully support what they are doing for our sport too.
OG SUP
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29 Jan 2011 11:55pm
Casso said...

Yep, SUP Australia is a new governing body which has been set up to solely support the competitive SUP disciplines (surfing and racing) in Australia. It is a not for profit organisation and appears to have our best interests at hand. It means we can have events which are dedicated to our sport that don't have to be incorporated with other shortboard, longboard, canoe or ski events.

There are currently plans in place for an Australian Championship Tour with approximately 20 standalone SUP events around the country in 2011.

At this stage I am supporting SUP Australia as it will be extending the SUP event calendar in Australia - which, in my opinion, this is a great thing for our sport and for those of us who like to compete or those who want to start competing.

The Sydney Paddle Surfing Club is also supporting SUP Australia because the insurance costs seem to be the best value around.

BTW - I have no official role at SUP Australia, beyond being an advisor of sorts, or a surfer/racer representative.

Disclaimer - I am also a surfer/racer representative for Surfing NSW and fully support what they are doing for our sport too.


Standup Paddlesurfing in Australia has been crying out for a national association and finally due to the hard work and dedication of Tania Nesbitt, SUP Australia Inc. has been born. The aim of the association is to provide rules, regulation and training in the sport and support clubs with start-up as well as providing competitively priced insurance packages. The association will also consult with local councils on SUP School accreditation and genral requirements.

The current Board Of Directors are:

* Jamie Mitchell
* Will Anido
* Darren Borg
* Simon Dodd
* Andrew Cassidy
* Stuart Murray
* Paul Jackson
* Jodie Marsh
* Woogie Marsh

So Casso is this a typo?

Phill
dtm
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30 Jan 2011 10:14am
Casso said...

Yep, SUP Australia is a new governing body which has been set up to solely support the competitive SUP disciplines (surfing and racing) in Australia. It is a not for profit organisation and appears to have our best interests at hand. It means we can have events which are dedicated to our sport that don't have to be incorporated with other shortboard, longboard, canoe or ski events.

There are currently plans in place for an Australian Championship Tour with approximately 20 standalone SUP events around the country in 2011.

At this stage I am supporting SUP Australia as it will be extending the SUP event calendar in Australia - which, in my opinion, this is a great thing for our sport and for those of us who like to compete or those who want to start competing.

The Sydney Paddle Surfing Club is also supporting SUP Australia because the insurance costs seem to be the best value around.

BTW - I have no official role at SUP Australia, beyond being an advisor of sorts, or a surfer/racer representative.

Disclaimer - I am also a surfer/racer representative for Surfing NSW and fully support what they are doing for our sport too.


sounds good to me casso, with the great work you have done in nsw for stand ups im sure your advice would be worth its weight in gold
husq2100
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30 Jan 2011 9:41am
granted im a little slow......that list of names they are pro SUP-Aus yes? and its non for profit yes? how does that work?? they all volenteer their time and any fees that get paid to SUP-Aus go where?

why is the insurance through SUP-Aus so much cheaper than the other body? is it the same coverage under the same conditions?

its all good to question stuff, but if comparing lay the cards on the table and compare apples to apples so the average punters (us) can see.

Casso
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30 Jan 2011 2:51pm
OG SUP said...


The current Board Of Directors are:

* Jamie Mitchell
* Will Anido
* Darren Borg
* Simon Dodd
* Andrew Cassidy
* Stuart Murray
* Paul Jackson
* Jodie Marsh
* Woogie Marsh

So Casso is this a typo?

Phill

Yeah, they have been a bit cheeky with this - I didn't know I was on the "Board of Directors". Don't you have to be nominated and then voted onto a board of this nature?
husq2100
husq2100
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30 Jan 2011 3:01pm
how come the "partners" are SUP brands.....would that not be confilct of interest???....ie non profit?
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