Who's Jimmy Styks?

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DavidJohn
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21 Dec 2009 7:21pm
Check it out.

DJ

http://standuppaddlesurfing.ning.com/video/best-bang-for-your-buck
GizzieNZ
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22 Dec 2009 1:05am
So that's how they do it !! Fascinating look at the technology involved in the pop out industry. Like the choose your own graphics option though
GizzieNZ
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22 Dec 2009 4:49pm
Well it seems he is also the guy who will sell you a board, paddle, leash, deckpad, fins & carry bag for US$800. Which is all fine & dandy & wonderful.
You would hope he's not ripping off other people's board designs though? Sounds like you give him the specs & he'll whack one out for you.
DavidJohn
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22 Dec 2009 8:08pm
.. Tis an interesting vid isn't it.

DJ
supdawg
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23 Dec 2009 7:28am
Hey Guys,

Just saw your post and thought I would clear a few things up! I am one of the partners of Jimmy Styks here in Canada. I have extensive experience with Asia importing. My co. www.asiatona.com
We started this company to bring the pricing of the SUP boards to where it should be. What people fail to realize is that most of all the big names in the biz are getting there boards from the same factory in Thailand (where labour pricing is even cheaper than China). We have 3 partners in Jimmy Styks. 1. Trading Co. 2. Designers and engineers 3. The Chinese factory. We do not copy boards we design our own. We are able to sell top quality boards cheaper than anyone because we are our own factory/design and engineering/and distribution company so there are no other companies profiting as many other companies have sales teams/distributors etc...etc... I can guarantee our boards are as good if not better than the top brands! As an experienced trading company for Asia I see many Big names manufactured in the same factory’s and in some cases for the same moulds as the "Wal-Mart" brands. All the consumers are doing is fooling them selves and lining the pockets of the big Corps! Put Jimmy to the test! I think you will be pleasantly surprised!

Best Regards,
Team Jimmy
Sparx
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23 Dec 2009 10:51am
Sorry mate! My money is staying in OZ.
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JonathanC
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23 Dec 2009 12:43pm
Don't think there is anything evil or sneaky about what Jimmy Styks are doing. One of the retailers on Maui, Hawaiian Island, are selling their own brand boards. Interesting reaction from some of the local shapers and even the fans of the big brands that they are doing something wrong, selling all this "home brand" gear that is for some reason not right. Well maybe the boards aren't particularly high performance or cutting edge (they might be, I don't know), but does that matter to the average punter that just wants to paddle around, not a bit. The very fact that they have got into the sport may inspire them to buy a locally shaped or big name board as their second board once they understand the sport better.

Funny thing is that Hawaiian Island sell their own brand for $1200 retail and PSH sell in the shop 100 metres away for $1050 or $1150. I'm guessing the quality is very similar. So why can HI sell for more than PSH, because they are selling to people that may never have done any sort of watersport before and wouldn't know Robby or Blane if they tripped over them, they walk into a retail shop that has been selling
there for 20 years and walk out with a board.

I think it is up to the big brands to keep on top of the development curve and bring well thought out, tested and refined product range to the market year after year. Something that I believe both Starboard and Naish to name just two are doing very well.
supdawg
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23 Dec 2009 11:50am
Hey, thanks Jonathan C for being down to earth.

We are only trying to make it affordable to families and entry level guys. We are not saying our boards (right now) are going to be the best boards out there. We aren’t trying to win battle of the paddle. The thing we are doing different than anybody else is willing to share how it is actually done, and answer questions about materials and construction. That is something you don’t usually find from companies building boards overseas. Most guys find some factory on the internet and order a container of whatever they are producing, often times knock offs of local shapers. We are designing our own shapes for entry level and novice paddlers and building it ourselves, for an intended user. That is a HUGE difference.



Ask us questions, we encourage it.

Challenge our shapes, it will only make us better.
Sparx
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23 Dec 2009 10:06pm
Hear what you are saying. Have been the GSI route and for the most part was satisfied. However over the last thirty years I,ve been lucky enough to have custom surfboards from talented local shapers. Input has been essential and the end result has reflected my needs and ultimately my style of riding waves. CNC machines have been around for yonks. My last two SUPs have been envisaged via CAD programs and roughed out by CNC. But, and it is a big but, I want to know that the guy behind the program has salt water running through his veins. I need to know that should the technology fail he can hack out my shape the old fashioned way with a surform and planer. I also want to know that the guy behind the respirator is the same guy I see shredding out at the local or downing a frosty at the end of the day while discussing passionatly and incisively his days labour. Not as it where, a highly trained wage slave.
To each his own. I know where my hard earned is going.
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supdawg
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24 Dec 2009 6:29am
Hey Sparx,

This is whats great about Forums, to be able to get everyones thoughts! That is a good why to go no doubt. The nice thing with our set-up is that our designers and engineers do have "salt water in there vains"! They are the ones programing the CNC machine and in fact we are also in close contact with our CNC machines developer and company which you will be happy to know is an Australian company! You are correct to say there is nothing better that the shape coming from the guys that are also the pro riders (I'm assuming like your self) and that is exactly what we do! Better yet our CNC equipment (from Australia) is brand new technology and can produce shapes that only require a very light sanding so NO human shaper on earth can hand shape this accurate. I know there will always be old timers set in there ways but I'm really big on technology and taking advantage of it to produce even superior products than the old hand shape days! every product on earth is getting better with technology and we are set up to be truly 2010! I respect your opinion and at the end of the day you have to do what you feel is best and it sounds like you have a good thing going!! But hey, give us a shout one day if you want to tryout a funky new shape without paying big bucks!
Best regards!
Sparx
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24 Dec 2009 9:55am
Hardly a pro, not by a longshot. Just your average punter who likes to support local. At the end of the day its about preference. The more choices out there the better it is. It,s all good.
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Bnaccas
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24 Dec 2009 10:35am
Judging by the shapes and dimensions these boards look OK but I wouldn't call them high performance. BUT...I don't think this is the angle they are taking. More so providing affordable entry level boards for people that are new to the sport (as stated above).

The production however looks great and very professional. I can't see why the quality wouldn't be as good as other brands on the market. Remember quite a few brands are coming out of China now. There is no vacuum bagged devinicel wraps like the major brands but the custom shapers here in OZ don't do this either and it hasn't caused any problems with the boards, only meant a significent weight reduction (in most cases) which is a positive.

I would assume they would use lighter glass jobs on more performance models if they were to eventually go down that track to keep the weight down. IMO 3 x 6oz top and bottom is overkill but durable for the punters.

This is just a point of view, I as much as anyone want to see our retailers who support the local industry prosper. Without them I wouldn't have a job. Instead I'd be living in Lennox on the doll surfing every day....hang on?....I quit!
Gorgo
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25 Dec 2009 1:10pm
It was very interesting to see the video of the glassing and sanding workshops. There seemed to be plenty of masks to go around and fans and stuff so working conditions didn't look too bad.

There seemed to be the standard drifts of foam and stuff in the corners and stalactites of resin and dust around the walls. A fair bit cleaner than some of the Oz board factories I have seen but not the super clean, modern industrial environment we see elsewhere.

Contrast that with this video of a guy glassing a board. There is a bowl shaped section under the board to catch the drips.

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