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greenmaster
greenmaster
QLD
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QLD, 24 posts
3 Oct 2010 2:51pm
hi i am interested in buying a sup board but im unsure as to what to buy i am 6ft and 115kgs the board will be mainly used on flat water but i do get to the coast a bit so i would like to use it in the surf as well can any one give me some advice on what to look for eg brands and sizes
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:25pm
The 10' Naish Mana or 10' Starboard Whopper.. the 11' or 11'6" NSP.. the 11'6" Naish Nalu or 12'6" Starboard Cruiser are all good options.. Where are you?

DJ
greenmaster
greenmaster
QLD
24 posts
QLD, 24 posts
3 Oct 2010 3:29pm
live on the vic / nsw border a place called Howlong
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
3 Oct 2010 4:32pm
greenmaster said...

live on the vic / nsw border a place called Howlong



So how long is Howlong?.. .. sorry..

You should come to the Merimbula event at the end of November and demo some boards.

DJ

billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
3 Oct 2010 6:15pm
Borrow/hire/demo as many boards as you can from mates and shops and see what feels good and suits your budget. You will go round and round in circles on this forum seeking advice and end up more confused and less educated than before you started. I would suggest that when you narrow your choice down to a couple of boards or so, then jump on if you need to and ask for input re the boards you have short-listed perhaps regarding their respective quality etc. If you stick with the known and popular brands and it should be fairly obvious from this forum what the better quality brands are, then you really cannot go too wrong.
In my own personal opinion (not shared by too many on here) do not get caught up in all the bs about going for a small board and growing into it. Get a board that is comfortable and feels right for you now. You will have a lot more fun and get a lot more use out of it and learn to surf way quicker and more enjoyably than going for something too small and too tippy and too much hard work and you may quickly lose sight of the whole reason you bought a sup to start with FUN.
greenmaster
greenmaster
QLD
24 posts
QLD, 24 posts
3 Oct 2010 6:21pm
thx billboard i appreciate that info and im not rushing been looking for a while and not in a hurry
CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
3 Oct 2010 6:32pm
There is no real correct answer to this question.

One of the things I found extremely frustrating when I was looking for advice on boards was finding someone who did not stand to gain anything from their recommendation.

In a nutshell you have a plethora of options for brand and design.

- If you are of the wind or Kite bent you are most likely to believe that boards made in the same way with many different fancy names for the same technology along with the claims of invention are the way to go.

- If you are of a surfing background your faith is in working directly with a shaper to customise or receive advice directly from the source rather than a fancy $5 catalogue.

- If you are price point minded person that will probably only use the board on Christmas holidays there are cheap boards on E bay with paddles. These boards are poorly designed and constructed and your resale if you choose to move on later as you probably will when you discover how fun it is will be terrible if non existent.

- You should also know at this point if you do not already that people here in Australia do make these products and they are of exceptional quality and they would greatly appreciate your money. You will pay no more for this but you may receive greater service and value. Many good SUP retailers offer boards made in OZ also.

Design:

- If you want to challenge yourself buy something smaller, if you want to cruise on flat water or paddle with your dog like some people for unknown reasons choose to buy something big.

- Most of the particulars like tails etc really make no difference until you start to get into finer details as required with experience.

My recommendation would be at first to check the buy and sell section of this website, no doubt there are heaps of boards getting sold by people who were in the same position as you 6 months ago and looking to move on from their big bertha QE2.

Then if you choose to move onwards try a bunch of boards when you have the basic experience to feel the difference yourself.

Apologies to any kite, sailboarders or people that paddle with their dogs (why??) that may have been offended by this post.

Disclaimer, I am highly geared towards supporting Aussie manufacturers. Check the profile pic!
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
8025 posts
VIC, 8025 posts
3 Oct 2010 8:10pm
Howlong, classic ! Didn't know it existed, but just up the road from Albury!

So, you live on the Murray River, so you'll get plenty of opportunity to rack up some flat water hours!

As per CMC, Aussie made can be a good option for various reasons.
This board is light, well made, and Aussie. Very good for flat water, and will be OK in the surf, although not strictly built for the surf
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/~rntjp/2009-Dc-Dale-Chapman-126-12-6.aspx?search=uQNVTXNc1pVmLaT%2fQ5QGqg%3d%3d

Here's a 2nd hand 10'0 Mana that DJ mentioned. These boards have loads of volume, for your weight. 210 Litres, but some other 10'0 boards might be closer to 150 litres.
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/~rsqla/2010-Naish-Mana-10-0.aspx?search=uQNVTXNc1pVmLaT%2fQ5QGqg%3d%3d
http://www.naishsurfing.com/en/boards/mana_2.html
Malibu styled board.

This one looks like OK value....
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/~rspmf/2010-Molokai-Hawaii-11-0.aspx?search=uQNVTXNc1pVmLaT%2fQ5QGqg%3d%3d

You would love a DC16, DC17, or Naish17 for Murray Exploring too....
www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Stand%20Up%20Paddle/~r5luu/2010-Naish-Glide-17-0.aspx?search=uQNVTXNc1pVmLaT%2fQ5QGqg%3d%3d
www.naishsurfing.com/en/boards/glide_1.html
www.chapmansurfboards.com/stand-up-paddleboards/

www.visithowlong.com.au/

My recommendation would actually be a DC17, or Naish17, for river exploring. Whilst the S.I.C. F16 & 17 are also great boards, they are a little pricey, and probably have too much rocker for dedicated flatwater... ie, pushes water a touch, rather than slicing through it....

But these boards a not really an option for surfing, unless it is small waves, and no crowds.

Recommendation Number 2 - dive in the deep end, and get a board sooner rather than later!! You'll really enjoy it ! The longer you delay the purchase, the longer you delay enjoyment ! Great fitness too... someone said to me once, "no decision, is a decision (to do nothing)".

So many options.....

PS - the "borrow/hire/demo" option is probably going to be pretty damn difficult in Howlong !
froggo
froggo
QLD
127 posts
QLD, 127 posts
3 Oct 2010 7:35pm
billboard said...

Borrow/hire/demo as many boards as you can from mates and shops and see what feels good and suits your budget. You will go round and round in circles on this forum seeking advice and end up more confused and less educated than before you started. I would suggest that when you narrow your choice down to a couple of boards or so, then jump on if you need to and ask for input re the boards you have short-listed perhaps regarding their respective quality etc. If you stick with the known and popular brands and it should be fairly obvious from this forum what the better quality brands are, then you really cannot go too wrong.
In my own personal opinion (not shared by too many on here) do not get caught up in all the bs about going for a small board and growing into it. Get a board that is comfortable and feels right for you now. You will have a lot more fun and get a lot more use out of it and learn to surf way quicker and more enjoyably than going for something too small and too tippy and too much hard work and you may quickly lose sight of the whole reason you bought a sup to start with FUN.


Ditto...

From my limited experience of owning a board for almost a year (with no previous surf exp.) I reckon bigger is better!

Learning to surf (and paddle in surf) takes time... better to have some fun during this process than spending too much time off the board (falling off).

Have fun!
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
3 Oct 2010 8:51pm
I'm new to SUP too, and am having a ball on my Starboard Converse in cammo finish, but at 9', it's way too small for you.
SOmething like a Whopper or Uber-Whopper would be a great board.
Big is good and I would not regret having a bigger board than I do, but I like the fact that it fits on my van easily too.
surfanimal
surfanimal
NSW
1662 posts
NSW, 1662 posts
3 Oct 2010 8:56pm
I've ridden many of the boards mentioned above and IMO, the 11'6 Naish Nalu is THE board for a cruise on flat water or to ride some cruisy sliders down the beach.

A beautiful shape, great finish, good re-sale and if you are looking at a one board quiver, this would be it.

Once your skills are up, you can then go down the the 10' Naish Mana for waves and the Naish 12 / 14 or 17 Glide for some flatwater runs / downwinders.

The 12' x 32 Big Easy is fun but not a pinch on the Nalu.

laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
3 Oct 2010 10:07pm


get something big and get it second hand. to be honest, at that size it's not going to really matter. any one of the bigger boards above will do the job. get the fine tooth comb out on the next board then you get some hours under your belt. also,to help you on the all important second board, try as many boards as you can.
cheers
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
4 Oct 2010 12:36pm
laceys lane said...



get something big and get it second hand. to be honest, at that size it's not going to really matter. any one of the bigger boards above will do the job. get the fine tooth comb out on the next board then you get some hours under your belt. also,to help you on the all important second board, try as many boards as you can.
cheers


Completely agree (yes mark - agree) Second hand is better if you get that option because you will lose way less money if and when you update the board in 6 to 12 months. You may even find - depending on what you buy that you wont lose money on the second hand board if you sell it on later. Also - Mambo would be an amazing opportunity to try out heaps of boards in a mixture of conditons and meet some good people as well. Maybe pm DJ and get some more details about the event. Not sure, but I think there would be sups available to at least try at Lakes and Eden.

B
OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
VIC, 3516 posts
4 Oct 2010 1:52pm
I owned a laird 12'1 for 12 months and it was a fantastic board. At the time I was circa 110kg and recoveing from a laminectomy.

They are very stable in the surf and paddle quickly onto a wave, yet with the right cut away fin can be fantastic fun drawing our big graceful turns. In the flat they will paddle fast even with 110kg, feels effortless. I havent ridden one on a down winder but I believe they would work quite well as I have paddled long distances 5 - 8 ks down the coast on mine.

There are at least 5 other guys in this 110k - 135kg range on the Surf Coast use the Laird as thier fun go to board and I dont know how many people learned on mine.

I sold mine to guy down Portland way who loves it, one of the few boards I really miss owning just from pure fun.

They are a big ass unit, heavy to carry, difficult to control or put on a car in high wind, so you should get a handle put into it for easy carry.

If you can demo one and see how it goes, I dont think you will look back.

There is one for sale in WA on this site for about 1400, I believe you can buy a softop for about $900???? new.

Phill

Disclaimer "Not sponsored or supported in any way by surftech just loved this board"

BIGFELLA
BIGFELLA
5 posts
5 posts
4 Oct 2010 4:35pm
Yeah Greeny, I am a very similar build to you. I started on a NSP 11' and it did me well for 12 months or more. I now ride the 11'2"x30" starboard blend. Very cruisy board in the surf, a real traditional longboard feel. I love the glide of this board. It also paddles well in flat water and with a larger center fin than what comes standard will make it track pretty staight on long paddles.
But as everyone else has said get on as many demos as you can, because even though we are a similar build doesnt mean we will like the feel of the same board.
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