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normster
normster
NSW
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6 May 2016 9:38am
this morning i am out early on the beach, there are good breaks up and down the beach so I paddle out to the least crowded, theres 3 short boarders - it was an okay break - i surfed when I was younger so I am familiar with surfer etiquette and i always stay out of the way of people and conscious of people behind me in the break.

i always paddle wide and let waves thru, anyway i get on a wave it closes out and there is a guy further along riding it ...thats fine it is a nice morning on the ocean.

i go out the back i am wide again, and the guys says "it look good further up there mate" looking at the next break, definitely not surf rage

but i said "i said im fine here thank mate" But I found it annoying, i hung around for a while and then moved on

what do you do in that situation ?


Ricardo1709
Ricardo1709
NSW
1302 posts
NSW, 1302 posts
6 May 2016 10:03am
Just say "I picked this bank because the standard of surfing was much lower than further up the beach " that should do the trick
NTAA
NTAA
NSW
56 posts
NSW, 56 posts
6 May 2016 10:19am
I would ignore the comment and keep surfing. It was friendly banter from the surfer you encountered. You have the same right to surf that break as the next guy on whatever craft. Provided you observe surf etiquette, you have nothing to feel uncomfortable about or apologize for. Fact is only 5-10% of surfers truly rip and they tend to sit deeper and read the line-up better than everyone else. The majority of surfers are competent and will leave you alone provided you don't paddle to the inside position all the time and catch all the set waves. You seem to have done nothing wrong.
cantSUPenough
cantSUPenough
VIC
2131 posts
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6 May 2016 10:41am
It is disappointing when people do that. Ruins the vibe...

I would have done exactly what you had done. (I may not have paddled on, but that would depend on the situation.)

And then you think of better responses later (yours was perfectly fine of course).

"Why don't you paddle down there then - more waves for us here"

"I have been surfing here since I was a kid, it is better right here"

"The last person that suggested I move is still in hospital" - maybe a bit too aggressive ;)
Hawaiiheke
Hawaiiheke
319 posts
319 posts
6 May 2016 8:49am
You shoulda said "Dunno mate. I'm half blind and can't see much more than 10 foot in front of me".
micksmith
micksmith
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6 May 2016 11:37am
normster said..



i go out the back i am wide again, and the guys says "it look good further up there mate" looking at the next break, definitely not surf rage

but i said "i said im fine here thank mate" But I found it annoying, i hung around for a while and then moved on

what do you do in that situation ?




Suggest he goes to that "it looks good further up there" spot
Toomanyboards
Toomanyboards
NSW
52 posts
NSW, 52 posts
6 May 2016 11:44am
I always just remind them in a friendly manner the reasons they hate sups..

Version 1 Dont worry i will let you get your quota of one wave every hour.

Version 2 Dont worry you can catch a wave when im exhausted bud...
Tardy
Tardy
5354 posts
5354 posts
6 May 2016 10:37am
Just ask him if he likes hospital food
CharlieF
CharlieF
90 posts
90 posts
6 May 2016 11:03am
Toomanyboards said..
I always just remind them in a friendly manner the reasons they hate sups..

Version 1 Dont worry i will let you get your quota of one wave every hour.

Version 2 Dont worry you can catch a wave when im exhausted bud...


There in lies the problem. The last 3 times I have been out I have seen 3 different guys on SUPS being absolute wave hogs taking every wave they can get. If SUP riders have that kind of attitude is it any wonder that prone surfers get edgy when we turn up?

Just hang out take your share of the waves and ignore the aggro, it's meant to be fun after all.
cantSUPenough
cantSUPenough
VIC
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6 May 2016 2:19pm
CharlieF said..

Toomanyboards said..
I always just remind them in a friendly manner the reasons they hate sups..

Version 1 Dont worry i will let you get your quota of one wave every hour.

Version 2 Dont worry you can catch a wave when im exhausted bud...



There in lies the problem. The last 3 times I have been out I have seen 3 different guys on SUPS being absolute wave hogs taking every wave they can get. If SUP riders have that kind of attitude is it any wonder that prone surfers get edgy when we turn up?

Just hang out take your share of the waves and ignore the aggro, it's meant to be fun after all.


We're just having a laugh.

Wave hogs are evil no matter what craft they ride, and we know they ride all kinds of craft.
Toomanyboards
Toomanyboards
NSW
52 posts
NSW, 52 posts
6 May 2016 2:56pm
I am definitely no wave hog and very aware of surf etiquette. I am just saying if they can dish it out then they certainly can take it..there is no way i would not respond to a sledge like that without having my two cents worth..
Smash1
Smash1
NSW
826 posts
NSW, 826 posts
6 May 2016 3:12pm
Yes, its very important to stay calm and at all times be respectful of their superior ranking in the surfing hierarchy..................

2 options:

- You could have suggested that if the surf is so much better further down the beach, then maybe he and his mates should go and check it out.
- On the other hand, you could simply use my tried and proven "situation calming technique" and paddle right up to them and tell them to get F@#ked!!
bobajob
bobajob
QLD
1535 posts
QLD, 1535 posts
6 May 2016 3:46pm
I surf and sup, when surfing I can take waves from SUPers all day long on a beach break situation.(assuming its not fat and full, then I'd be SUPping anyway) As surfing is more agile you can take off later and deeper inside. You put some doubt in the SUPpers mind as you paddle for the wave across their line and it gets all pair shaped for them because it is hard for them to stop the momentum or change the angle of approach. Now having said that, I rarely have to resort to those tactics as most SUPpers when I'm surfing are quite "fair" and are just trying to do the right thing.
And as there is so much competition between short boarders anyway, those that loose out on waves to better surfers look to "soft targets" to vent their frustration.

I wonder as well if you rocked up on a 10" mal and took everything whether that is ok? Cause from what I have seen mals are quite commonly absolute un ashamed wave pigs, but no one says anything about that.

If ol mate said that to me, nothing would have been said in reply, it would have been an open invitation to take what I could.
Toomanyboards
Toomanyboards
NSW
52 posts
NSW, 52 posts
6 May 2016 3:52pm
Exactly right had they said good morning it would have been all sweet or even nothing at all sweet..comments like that just reinforce their inferiority complex. I have actually been trying hard to remember a time i actually saw a sup being a wave hog everyone i know or watch are very sharing and caring
conan
conan
NSW
181 posts
NSW, 181 posts
6 May 2016 5:28pm
I paddled out at gerringong point about 6 weeks ago a local surfer said to me your not one of those pricks that takes all the waves l said no I'm one of those pricks that tells you when the sets are coming . He always took the first wave of the set , i took the second it was allways bigger . No problems.
bobajob
bobajob
QLD
1535 posts
QLD, 1535 posts
6 May 2016 5:49pm
conan said..
I paddled out at gerringong point about 6 weeks ago a local surfer said to me your not one of those pricks that takes all the waves l said no I'm one of those pricks that tells you when the sets are coming . He always took the first wave of the set , i took the second it was allways bigger . No problems.


And everyone scores!
Gandalf
Gandalf
WA
86 posts
WA, 86 posts
6 May 2016 6:22pm
I paddled out at Trigg Beach on Sunday, the only SUP out there at the time. I've just moved up to the metro area and was expecting some aggro. I was really pleasantly surprised at the friendly vibe and mutual respect in the water - no drop-ins, no hassling or wave-hogging and no aggression or abuse. I do make a point of keeping a bit of distance between me and others, (no different from when I rode a shortboard) and definitely do not hog waves, drop in or put anyone at risk. It seemed everyone around reciprocated

I prefer not not to surf on crowded weekends and I'm sure shortboarders would prefer not to see SUPs but I went home feeling really good!
surfershaneA
surfershaneA
869 posts
869 posts
6 May 2016 6:39pm
PUNCH ON!!!!
chrisrum
chrisrum
NSW
78 posts
NSW, 78 posts
6 May 2016 9:06pm
surfershaneA said..
PUNCH ON!!!!


Do what you do Shano, act a bit weird and freaky! Spin out old mate.
Pando71
Pando71
NSW
137 posts
NSW, 137 posts
6 May 2016 10:50pm
This has been discussed many times over, if you understand the surf etiquette ,there is no problem. These narrow minded useless bastards have know idea, the ocean is free to be used by everyone, if your not hurting no-one , dropping in , being a wave pig, sharing the waves..simple as that. sorry had enough of these pricks !! I still surf and SUP. Surfing for 30yrs and SUP for 7yrs. Best of both worlds!! I used to be nice to em, now F#@k em!!!uneducated idiots. It's no surprise the top waterman are usingSUP for pleasure, fun ,cross training etc etc etc. ha!! Sorry long week at work!!, Need anger management
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
7 May 2016 7:22am
Sometimes it happens at my usual surf location but I'll be out first and then surfers paddle out and join me. They only do it because if I'm out alone it's usually low tide and not lining up properly or small. They see me paddle in early, ride the suck rocks high, gain super speed and tear the shoulder a new donkey hole
It's funny when they try and act all superior when they first paddle out and get no waves. Funny too if every time they miss a wave you ask them if they want to borrow your paddle. It's even more funnerer when I say the same as above like "there's no waves here" or "it's better around the back" or "ya mum" hahaha
Nar just kidding. Have fun out there and love one another
hilly
hilly
WA
8130 posts
WA, 8130 posts
7 May 2016 8:42am
Greenroom said..
Sometimes it happens at my usual surf location but I'll be out first and then surfers paddle out and join me. They only do it because if I'm out alone it's usually low tide and not lining up properly or small. They see me paddle in early, ride the suck rocks high, gain super speed and tear the shoulder a new donkey hole
It's funny when they try and act all superior when they first paddle out and get no waves. Funny too if every time they miss a wave you ask them if they want to borrow your paddle. It's even more funnerer when I say the same as above like "there's no waves here" or "it's better around the back" or "ya mum" hahaha
Nar just kidding. Have fun out there and love one another



Ha ha I seem to remember you paddling over and standing right next to a bloke who did not want us out there :)

I am lucky that no one says anything to me
bobajob
bobajob
QLD
1535 posts
QLD, 1535 posts
7 May 2016 10:58am
"Funny too if every time they miss a wave you ask them if they want to borrow your paddle." - That's gold!!
normster
normster
NSW
351 posts
NSW, 351 posts
7 May 2016 2:50pm
Thanks, some good ideas.....

- probably prefer not to punch on
- Conan I think I think i use to sailboard with you and you are built like a brick #$%house, no surprises it was all sweet!




MiniDorries
MiniDorries
QLD
144 posts
QLD, 144 posts
7 May 2016 6:11pm
I cant stand in when people do that out in the surf. You're out there to have fun, don't ruin someone else's day because you're ill minded and still living in the 80's.
My favourite experience so far is when I decided to go surf rainbow bay on an un-crowded day about 2ft. I was having the best time because I rarely ever surf rainbow in fear of getting caught up in the break and not being able to duckdive! but some guy dropped in on me, then proceeded to tell me to "go back to where i came from" I replied with "what, currumbin?" He didnt even care that I was on a SUP, it was all the fact that I was a female. teling me we dont belong out in the surf. I told him to get f*cked and wave to the camera (thanks mum)
Tang
Tang
VIC
580 posts
VIC, 580 posts
7 May 2016 10:18pm
There's a million and one responses, but it always wrecks the mood. It's rarely a good surfer who does it, though, and if you're able to I always find the best response is to out-surf them, it really hits the spot.
colas
colas
5385 posts
5385 posts
7 May 2016 8:37pm
On the opposite, I had my "shame moment" today: some surfers at a peak, so I go to an empty one to the side. After a while, I want to try another one on the other side of the main peak, so I paddle to it, going over the main peak... a set comes.. I am perfectly placed... and crash on the take off like a wet turd.

Needless to say, I apologized profusely before anyone could say a word, and kept away from the main peak for the sessions :-)
micksmith
micksmith
VIC
1701 posts
VIC, 1701 posts
8 May 2016 6:07pm
colas said..
On the opposite, I had my "shame moment" today: some surfers at a peak, so I go to an empty one to the side. After a while, I want to try another one on the other side of the main peak, so I paddle to it, going over the main peak... a set comes.. I am perfectly placed... and crash on the take off like a wet turd.

Needless to say, I apologized profusely before anyone could say a word, and kept away from the main peak for the sessions :-)


Why do you think you need to apologise, you can be sure a proner doesn't apologise when they crash and burn
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
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8 May 2016 6:42pm
Its amazing what a change of perception can do , I have been recently trying to surf a 6,10 short board , I emphasise trying And went out at the Alley on it and where only a few sups out , but when you are on a short board looking up and you see someone who is not quite in control of their board , it is a bit of a worry. The other thing I have found is it is far easier to catch waves on a sup , I rekon I paddled my ring out for half an hour trying to get in a good position and low and behold a sup got the wave first. Which is all when and good , but made me realize why some proners can get frustrated. It always helps to walk a mile in anothers shoes. No easy answer I guess , you can only control your own actions.
Smash1
Smash1
NSW
826 posts
NSW, 826 posts
8 May 2016 7:23pm
teatrea said..
Its amazing what a change of perception can do , I have been recently trying to surf a 6,10 short board , I emphasise trying And went out at the Alley on it and where only a few sups out , but when you are on a short board looking up and you see someone who is not quite in control of their board , it is a bit of a worry. The other thing I have found is it is far easier to catch waves on a sup , I rekon I paddled my ring out for half an hour trying to get in a good position and low and behold a sup got the wave first. Which is all when and good , but made me realize why some proners can get frustrated. It always helps to walk a mile in anothers shoes. No easy answer I guess , you can only control your own actions.


and go back to SUPing
Foam
Foam
WA
768 posts
WA, 768 posts
8 May 2016 7:22pm
I had a guy abuse me for getting to close to him, waves peeling left and plenty of them but this guy sat on the inside right in the path of the on coming surfers .
He made no attempt to move at any stage and moaned when I done a button turn round him .
Did I get to close .. sure was it a good warning to move your ass yep sure was .
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