Is it the Naish 7'9" X 33"???
Short & stable
Have you had a go on it Lacey?

Hey Lacey, you will never turn a big volume craft like a SUP as quick as a shortie.

The lines SUPs draw are unique in their own way and the speed they generate in crappy surf is amazing - I reckon.

You're right about Jacko and that 8 footer- but not many have the balance of a tightrope walker like him

supple said...

Turns are supposed to be fluid and controlled and not "quick". Good turns come from being in the right place on the board when the turn is executed and having your body and board in sync'. The best 'turners' I have seen on sups in this country are guys like Lummers/Casso/Tullyst John/Woogie Marsh/Jamie Mitchell - they all sup and surf with finesse and really make beautiful rail to rail transitions and as such are able to maintain good momentum on the wave and make it look effortless. Too many guys are trying to surf their sups like shortboards and are too lazy or incompetent to move their feet and as such are trying to muscle the board around and not work with the board to achieve more flowing/controlled and powerful moves.

i hear what you are saying,but i'm not talking about techinque, i'm am looking at the boards- can they be designed to do better

laceys lane said...

goatman said...

Hey Lacey, you will never turn a big volume craft like a SUP as quick as a shortie.

The lines SUPs draw are unique in their own way and the speed they generate in crappy surf is amazing - I reckon.

You're right about Jacko and that 8 footer- but not many have the balance of a tightrope walker like him

hi goatman, yeah the boards are quick- no problems. i still think there is room for faster turners

I fully agree Laceys, there's a long way to go on design. People already want to surf past the current boards. People who ride shortboards when its good and SUP when marginal still want to surf the same.

The big 'floaters' are perfect for the poo squat paddlers in the creek but in the surf there's miles to go. It is so exciting!

well show us your stuff Lacey??????????????
roBbooooo

laceys lane said...

mybrosweeper said...

well show us your stuff Lacey??????????????
roBbooooo

nah, i'm just a has been who gets a wave, wiggles my bum a couple of times and that's it

yeah,and most of us are,so WHAT THA?I am sure in future we are going to see some fully awesome SUP manuvers,but we're all old and happy to cruise,well Iam anyway,
roBboooo

laceys lane said...

mybrosweeper said...

laceys lane said...

mybrosweeper said...

well show us your stuff Lacey??????????????
roBbooooo

nah, i'm just a has been who gets a wave, wiggles my bum a couple of times and that's it

yeah,and most of us are,so WHAT THA?I am sure in future we are going to see some fully awesome SUP manuvers,but we're all old and happy to cruise,well Iam anyway,
roBboooo

hey robo, i'm not cruising, i wont to go down fighting, if there is going to be quicker turning carving boards around i'm up for it, even if i might be kidding myself. i still work as chippie/ builder and i'm still reasonable fit with no broken body parts yet.as they say,use it or lose it
so, anybody with some board ideas

yeah me,get a quad lol,
robbo

From what I saw yesterday there were guys who were surfing rail to rail (even on those waves). Kieren and Billy were the standouts, which is why they were #1 and #2 I suppose. Jacko had it wired earlier but as the wave got fatter it was harder for him on his board (10/10 for having a go though). Also, Dogman was pretty impressive and did some pretty big rail carves.

I think that by next year's comp you will see full rail surfing by a lot more surfers.

Jamie Willems was also surfing rail to rail in his early heats, especially on his forehand (left). He ran out of steam (and waves) in the end but fully deserved being in the final. He ripped on that red McTavish.

Many other guys and girls ripped, too...

laceys lane said...

hi, i just would like to say, my comments are about the boards them selfs and in no way is a reflection on the awesome surfing that when down."billy watson" is the best that i have seen in my opinion. he was right in it and very capable of getting that score he needed, but the wave didn't come. i would be happy to be a 1/4 as good as him and i'm NOT putting myself as some kind of gun sup er. it was purely an observation after watching a short board club comp only. also, its not a downer on shaper's, things have gone crazy even in just a year. i was just hoping for a forum on a few design ideas.
i think it's exiting times and who knows what will be surfed and the level of surfing in next years comp
cheers

I have been an avid "watcher" of this forum for quite a while and I need to make a comment and do not wish for it to sound derogitory (think thats right) but - from what I have seen you seem to go through about 5 boards a week and when you seem to have that special board you show it a week later with the fins changed or the shape altered or some other seemingly pointless alteration made to the board ! Are you just unlucky enough to be buying crap boards or are you just very very very very fussy. Please excuse my comments if you are a shaper or something and have justifiable reason to make the constant changes to the boards cos I guess then you would know what you were doing and saying. Otherwise maybe you shouldn't be advising what is wrong with boards and you should actually get yourself a decent board and ride it for more than five minutes and you will find that most good modern shapes actually do turn and surf really well.

laceys lane said...

supple said...

laceys lane said...

hi, i just would like to say, my comments are about the boards them selfs and in no way is a reflection on the awesome surfing that when down."billy watson" is the best that i have seen in my opinion. he was right in it and very capable of getting that score he needed, but the wave didn't come. i would be happy to be a 1/4 as good as him and i'm NOT putting myself as some kind of gun sup er. it was purely an observation after watching a short board club comp only. also, its not a downer on shaper's, things have gone crazy even in just a year. i was just hoping for a forum on a few design ideas.
i think it's exiting times and who knows what will be surfed and the level of surfing in next years comp
cheers

I have been an avid "watcher" of this forum for quite a while and I need to make a comment and do not wish for it to sound derogitory (think thats right) but - from what I have seen you seem to go through about 5 boards a week and when you seem to have that special board you show it a week later with the fins changed or the shape altered or some other seemingly pointless alteration made to the board ! Are you just unlucky enough to be buying crap boards or are you just very very very very fussy. Please excuse my comments if you are a shaper or something and have justifiable reason to make the constant changes to the boards cos I guess then you would know what you were doing and saying. Otherwise maybe you shouldn't be advising what is wrong with boards and you should actually get yourself a decent board and ride it for more than five minutes and you will find that most good modern shapes actually do turn and surf really well.

fair enough, but i do like playing around with boards and setups, it something i've always done and enjoy it.

ps. i have copped some of stick over this. just like to talk about boards and stuff sorry if anyone is offended, it wasn't intended. this will be my last post

Hey Lacey,I reckon you should keep trying different setups with the boards,that's how the sport will progress,I'd be doing the same if it wasn't for my limited water time and ability[not knowing what's works and what doesn't],
and nothing wrong with five boards a week,I've just ordered no.6 for the year so I don't feel so guilty,
also if that's your last post will you be joining Border Paul

Boys, boys, boys whhhooo, slow down. Lacey and Lookie, please tell me you mean last post in this thread and not last post ever! You guys, along with all the other knowledgable people on this forum are the reason I read it. Please don't let a bit of criticism get you down. The people that speak their mind on this forum are what makes it interesting and unfortunately they often draw a bit of flack for it. But believe me, you two will have plenty of silent supporters out there as well. Please don't go .

OH yeah - before I get brutally attacked "its a joke joyce" (I know both the guys)

Th0m0 said...

Boys, boys, boys whhhooo, slow down. Lacey and Lookie, please tell me you mean last post in this thread and not last post ever! You guys, along with all the other knowledgable people on this forum are the reason I read it. Please don't let a bit of criticism get you down. The people that speak their mind on this forum are what makes it interesting and unfortunately they often draw a bit of flack for it. But believe me, you two will have plenty of silent supporters out there as well. Please don't go .

Yeh what ThOmO said + you soft co-k Lacey you. Probably why no one replies to my bs , but it doesn't stop me dribbling on like a boxer in the sun.
Call it silent support if you like.

It maybe a beat up [}:)] thats Billboards call ( hope he is right for the very first time ) nah just kidding BB

TAKE THE LONG LINE me thinks an old ANGLES song from Lacey's hey day's @ the Playroom, Jet Club and the Patch oh MP day's

lovin this topic

yer the boards are getting better thats for sure

jackos 8'0 weapon is for sure the fastest board rail to rail but its outta reach for the average beer swilling pie eatin machine like myself and other larger than life itself mutant individuals

cant wait to see what people come up with next

combinations of widths verus length and girth will be the factor

then when you think you have got it right

throw in the fin shape size position and multiple combinations

bring it on

after a short w@nk rave with lacey at the roar comp the other day while drinking beer and eating snags

im lovin his attitude of buy try sell buy try trade burn try bury try resurrect try rebuild try rebirth try a bit of this try a bit of that slap it together and bobs your uncle but that was crap lets try it again like with a bit of this and that and **** i dont like that either what about.....and so on.....and so on............

cant wait to see what he has in a years time after another 60 boards or so per week

at least some shapers out there are getting more practice or RSI or a few bucks towards their retirement home accomadation bills

rock on

dogman