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lost at sea
lost at sea
WA
358 posts
WA, 358 posts
31 May 2009 4:43pm
with the current shift from stand up goatboating to actual performance surfing ,I'm putting out question for those who know more than me , are the paddles that are designed for the surfing side of this sport all that different ???? To narrow down this some what broad question is there any real difference between say the latest offering from c4 and say kialoa shaka pu ,anyone who has used both paddles for surfing , I would welcome first hand experiences
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
31 May 2009 8:54pm
Welcome to the Breeze tortise.. Paddles are changing and not just for surfing.. They are now smaller and more narrow.

The new Kialoa Methane is only 8" wide and the new Werner Nitro is only 7 1/2" wide.. Not long ago paddles were 9-10" wide.

That's a huge difference (2") and I've found that even 1/2" is very noticeable.

Once you've used these new paddles going back to the old-school paddles is like chalk and cheese.

Other than blade size and shape there is also a big difference in shafts and T grips between the different paddle brands.

IMO there is a big difference between the new C4 and Kialoa Shaka Pu'u and it's a personal thing that makes one better than the other.

They're both great paddles.

This is a paddling sport and a good paddle makes a huge difference.. Just like running sports need good running shoes.

But.. It also comes down to what you can afford and a good paddle is not necessary to have fun and a good time stand up paddling.

DJ

OG SUP
OG SUP
VIC
3516 posts
VIC, 3516 posts
31 May 2009 9:29pm
Hi Tortise,

I originally had a South Point paddle which is know known effectionately as "The Crow Bar" These paddles had very little blade angle, were relatively heavy ( by todays standards) had a dihedral faced blade which on this paddle IMO effected blade efficiency ( wasted power stroke) and the blade for me was way too wide.

The wide blade did not allow me to get the board moving fast enough to get onto many of the waves I paddled for. It was a bit like driving a car in 4th gear I guess.
In many cases I would actually pull myself off the board when paddling hard to get on to a wave.

I then tried a Kialoa Methane and a Kialoa Shaka Pu. I found the narrower Methane suited my paddle style as it allowed me to get the board moving really quickly and over night it quadruppled my ability to catch waves. It was more like starting in 1st gear if you like. It has less flex than the crowbar which I like and it was less than 1/2 the weight which makes a huge difference to fatigue because we often SUP for 4 - 6 hours at a time.

The Methane has significantly more blade angle which allows a far more efficient power stroke as it catches water earlier, the blade angle also allows more leverage when turning as you can effectively push water and it enters and leaves the water far more efficently.

The face of the Methane is flat and for me seems to work far better than the dihedral shape favoured by some shapers. The flat face has a major draw back in that it shimmies in the water side to side on a hard power stroke, but I have adjusted to this and it no longer worries me.

The Methane also has sharp edges that can and will cut into the rails unless you tape them well so you need to watch out for that.

I have also tried out one of the narrow quickblade paddles and found it to be excellent.

Rod Hocker Surf Shapes hand crafts excellent paddles to any size or shape you want as does Woggie Marsh so you have some excellent local product to choose from as well.

My suggestion is TRY BEFORE YOU BUY see what suites you!

Phill
lost at sea
lost at sea
WA
358 posts
WA, 358 posts
31 May 2009 9:59pm

thanks guys for the advice ,A wise man once said to me ,a poor man always buys twice!, so trying to stumble thru the much largely unknown and ever increasing pile of products of tested and untested sup equipment ,is fun as it is overwhelming so cheers !!!! counting down to the new board can't wait !!!!
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
1 Jun 2009 9:59am

i have a shaka pu.i swapped for gsi so a friend could try mine.with the 8 10 board have i couldn't get a wave, had to ask for mine back. the quickblade paddles i also like.
cheers














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