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Shayne86
Shayne86
WA
189 posts
WA, 189 posts
20 Feb 2012 9:22am
Ok, so im away working but have been frothing on the idea of getting a SUP for a while now and ill be looking into it seriously this week when im home BUT im a little bit lost on what dimensions i should be aiming at.

Im about 75kgs and 180cm roughly and I want a board that is more flat water orientated as I live 2 minutes from a river. But also I know as soon as I find my sea legs so to speak, ill want to try my hand at some little waves (i have no surfing background but do kite) but baby steps first.

The thing that is throwing me off, as there are a few boards I like, is the Volume that they displace. How can some boards be smaller but have higher volume of litres or whatnot and how does this affect me being a beginner?

The boards im looking at are
9'2" x 31.5 Fanatic Allwave (160L)
10' x 30" Fanatic SUP hrs (159L)
Naish Mana AST 9'5" x 31" (190L!)

These are just a few that Im keen to try so Im sorry if you guys are sick of these noob questions lol but any thoughts would be appreciated. We have a Starboard dealer in town as well but all his boards are shorter surf based ones so not sure if ill bother. I do hear lots of good things about Starboard though.
Jradedmondo
Jradedmondo
NSW
637 posts
NSW, 637 posts
20 Feb 2012 12:40pm
hi

if you want something more flatwater orientated maybe go something a little longer 10foot would be decent, if you have a starboard dealer maybe look at something like the starboard drive, at 10'5 it will paddle resonably well but is also a good board for the surf, just demo as many different boards as you can until you find one you like,

volume depends on the size of the board thins is how smaller boards can have more volume, the naish mana has a round nose and a big square tail which make it stable and also helps it hold volume, where as boards with pintails and thinner rails and nose design will hold less volume and are usually worse stability wise, for a beginner the boards you arae looking at would be good for you and what you want then for, saying that everyone could probably tell you a different board, thats why you should demo and find what you like

hope this helps

Jarryd
elbeau
elbeau
WA
988 posts
WA, 988 posts
20 Feb 2012 9:58am
I agree with the above about trying as many boards as you can. Personally I have

owned a Starboard Drive for a number of years and recommend the same. Caught about

40 waves yesterday at Crescent Head on it. Good for nose riding re-entries floaters etc

and floaty enough to pop your dog on the nose and head down river for some exploring.

Good board. (I weigh 82kgs)
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
20 Feb 2012 1:04pm
Also suss out the new Naish 10'6".5 Nalu.. That would also be a perfect board for you IMO.

DJ
Newmo
Newmo
VIC
471 posts
VIC, 471 posts
20 Feb 2012 1:12pm
Starboard Drive 10'5 awesome board.
rager
rager
QLD
437 posts
QLD, 437 posts
20 Feb 2012 12:13pm
I'd consider a 12'6" BOP style raceboard too. Heaps more glide and less yaw than the ones mentioned on flat water and still heaps of fun to surf in small fat waves.
Minkee
Minkee
QLD
225 posts
QLD, 225 posts
20 Feb 2012 12:15pm
I was in the same position 4yrs ago.
I bought a C4 10ft6', started in the creek and made my way to the waves 2 weeks after. I still own the board today and don't think I'll sell it anytime soon. It's a good size board I can use for myself and to give anyone a go...

Anything around the 10ft mark will float you just fine.
Try as many as you can. Don't go too small just yet.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
20 Feb 2012 1:26pm
Shayne86 said...
... How can some boards be smaller but have higher volume of litres or whatnot ...


A shorter board can have more volume from more thickness, wider nose and/or tail and fuller rails.

Excessive board weight can offset volume a bit.

They could also calculate the volume imprecisely. You would think the design software would know the exact designed volume.

If it was me intending to paddle on a river I would be looking at a much bigger board than the ones on your list. More than 10' and preferably longer than 11'. You can't have a too long board for flat water paddling.

Long boards also catch small waves much better. They're great for trimming in surf up to about 4-5'.

The only disadvantage of a longer board is they weigh more, take up more room in the garage and take a bit more technique to turn on a wave.

I am the same size as you and my first board was an 11'2". It rocked. I currently have an 8'11" board for the surf. If I got another board it would be a 12'6" BOP style thing. (BOP is Battle of the Paddles. A race where they do laps paddling out through the surf and back.)
boardbumps
boardbumps
NSW
698 posts
NSW, 698 posts
20 Feb 2012 1:30pm
At 75kg you have no problems finding a board, if your over 90kg thats when the problems start. Everyone needs a 10footer.
Rod
billboard
billboard
QLD
2819 posts
QLD, 2819 posts
20 Feb 2012 2:22pm
You should definately try a starboard 9.8 x 30 element - it is a far superior board than the 3 you mention, both in the flat and the surf. It fits your body size perfectly and you will just love it first time you paddle it. If your local starby guy hasnt got one Im sure you could source one no problem.
JasonProsser
JasonProsser
NSW
268 posts
NSW, 268 posts
20 Feb 2012 3:45pm
rager said...

I'd consider a 12'6" BOP style raceboard too. Heaps more glide and less yaw than the ones mentioned on flat water and still heaps of fun to surf in small fat waves.


I just got back from a flatwater run with a first time paddler. Not sure of her weight / height, but I put her on my Coreban Alpha 12'6. What I noticed straight away was how much easier it was for her to paddle in a straight line, and how stable it was for her. She only fell once, when we had side chop from a boat wake. I've taken beginners on shorter cruiser style boards before and noticed how much time they spend correcting their direction. Was a bit harder for her to turn round, but that is a common newcomers problem, simplly made worse by the directional stability inherent in longer race boards. Absolutely agree with the comment about glide as well and for your first steps into small waves, again on the mark. Not the traditional choice for first board, but makes a lot of sense to go longer for cruising and small waves.
supa
supa
NSW
249 posts
NSW, 249 posts
20 Feb 2012 4:07pm
Its an age old question and IMO people worry far too much about their 1st board, when i started there wasn't anywhere near the amount of brands and boards to pick from so it wasn't so confusing.
Sup is about fun on the water, if you don't surf and don't want too surf then IMO 11'-12' and at least 30" wide.

If you surf now and want to do a bit of both about 10' with a wide style nose would be great.

In a nut shell if you can stand and paddle the board its a great 1st board, then it's about what your budget is. If you want to have better resale value then by a brand name board, if not by any board that will do the above.

just about all brands have something that will float your boat.
hilly
hilly
WA
8132 posts
WA, 8132 posts
20 Feb 2012 1:48pm
supa said...

Its an age old question and IMO people worry far too much about their 1st board, when i started there wasn't anywhere near the amount of brands and boards to pick from so it wasn't so confusing.
Sup is about fun on the water, if you don't surf and don't want too surf then IMO 11'-12' and at least 30" wide.

If you surf now and want to do a bit of both about 10' with a wide style nose would be great.

In a nut shell if you can stand and paddle the board its a great 1st board, then it's about what your budget is. If you want to have better resale value then by a brand name board, if not by any board that will do the above.

just about all brands have something that will float your boat.


+1

get a secondhand one at a bargain price 10 X 30 ish
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
20 Feb 2012 6:25pm
boardbumps said...

At 75kg you have no problems finding a board, if your over 90kg thats when the problems start. Everyone needs a 10footer.
Rod


At 110kgs, I lurve my 9'8"...in saying that, my first board was a 11'6"

billboard said...

You should definately try a starboard 9.8 x 30 element - it is a far superior board than the 3 you mention, both in the flat and the surf. It fits your body size perfectly and you will just love it first time you paddle it. If your local starby guy hasnt got one Im sure you could source one no problem.


^^^ That's the one - windsurfable too with track & footstrap holes.
R1ChiE
R1ChiE
VIC
8 posts
VIC, 8 posts
20 Feb 2012 7:27pm
I'm about the same size as you, bay paddling and also some waves or outer sandbars. I'd narrowed down the choices to the Naish Nalu 10'6".5 and PSH WAA 10'2.

Haven't heard too much about the PSH WAA 10'2 except that it should surf better than the Naish but perhaps the boardworks construction may not be as good as Naish. But then the Naish Nalu 10'6".5 is also new but has evolved from an older model, perhaps a little more stable and not so wave focused . . . hmmm

After taking with DJ the other day, I'm 95% sure I'll go the Naish Nalu 10'6".5 . . . still deciding wood or AST, and seeing which store will give me a good deal.

But I think anything that floats us will be fun, so long as we get out there ;-)

Cheers
Rich
Shayne86
Shayne86
WA
189 posts
WA, 189 posts
20 Feb 2012 5:23pm
hahahah information overload! Thanks guys I will probably re-read this thread about 100 times before I even go chek out the shops.

Problem I have up here is there isnt a lot of choice for boards and almost zero second handies. The only 2nd hand ones ive seen are a 12' x something starboard (no model name listed) and a Jimmy Lewis Mano. the starboard is chep but "well used" and a little rough but im gonna check it out anyways hopefully.
Our 2 dealers only realy stock Naish, Fanatic and Starboard so they are the big 3 on offer.

Im sure ill ind one that just feels right
Zeusman
Zeusman
QLD
1363 posts
QLD, 1363 posts
20 Feb 2012 7:44pm
I just had a look in the "Buy & Sell" on this site. There is quite a few used boards in WA that would suit you.
Basha69
Basha69
WA
161 posts
WA, 161 posts
20 Feb 2012 6:35pm
Go and see Mike at standupsurf shop in north freo. You can demo most of the boards he has in the shop and is a mine of information especially AFL lol.
Shayne86
Shayne86
WA
189 posts
WA, 189 posts
21 Feb 2012 12:08am
Its a 9 hour round trip to Perth not including getting my shopping on LOL
So would be alot less hassle to buy local
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