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beachsoul
beachsoul
WA
8 posts
WA, 8 posts
26 Jun 2010 9:40am
Please remember how much of a impact a sup has on the lineup.
1- you always stand futher out than anyone else ( so you can scope set waves everytime)

2- You are on a huge board with lots of paddling power (so you can scope set waves everytime)

3- your boards are big and cumbersome. Hate to be hit by one. Their have been a few close calls. I have'nt heard of anone being hit by one yet

SO please guys take it easy in the water... try and only take a fair share of the set waves.
Explore other breaks...I can think of heaps of cranking sup waves in my area that no one goes to.....

PS Im a 47 year old mainly shortboarder, occassional longboarder...used to longboard much more but i made a choice to do more short boarding while i still can
DavidJohn
DavidJohn
VIC
17570 posts
VIC, 17570 posts
26 Jun 2010 11:46am
Good advise.. thanks beachsoul.

DJ
standupper
standupper
387 posts
387 posts
26 Jun 2010 10:12am
Blah blah blah. Not this again!

I know lets make up some rules for SUP that everyone has to stick to.

PTWoody
PTWoody
VIC
3982 posts
VIC, 3982 posts
26 Jun 2010 12:23pm
Relax standupper, I'm sure the OP has also gone to every prone surfing forum he can find and told them that he thinks they should be more social and welcoming and understanding with SUP surfers. And no doubt he's also advised them of some safety rules that they should stick to.
husq2100
husq2100
QLD
2031 posts
QLD, 2031 posts
26 Jun 2010 12:47pm
beachsoul said...

Please remember how much of a impact a sup has on the lineup.
1- you always stand futher out than anyone else ( so you can scope set waves everytime)

2- You are on a huge board with lots of paddling power (so you can scope set waves everytime)

3- your boards are big and cumbersome. Hate to be hit by one. Their have been a few close calls. I have'nt heard of anone being hit by one yet

SO please guys take it easy in the water... try and only take a fair share of the set waves.
Explore other breaks...I can think of heaps of cranking sup waves in my area that no one goes to.....

PS Im a 47 year old mainly shortboarder, occassional longboarder...used to longboard much more but i made a choice to do more short boarding while i still can



agreed with all of the above.....BUT when I surf some local spots that 30% of shortboards and 30% of long boarders DO NOT follow their own rules I kinda think why should I its dog eat dog.....

examples:

paddling back out after having caught a wave to paddle straight onto the next wave that peaks for them

dropping in

paddling back up the inside ie taking the straightest route from coming off the wave back to where they were which means being in the way of the next guy on the wave coming

not getting out of the way when someone is surfing a wave

Paddling for the shoulder!!!! this is a big one for me as shortboards can duck dive but i really do wonder...and if im going to take the white wall on, on a 9ft sup they bloody well can have a crack to.

shortboarders being to far out on full days, paddling for waves and only getting onto 10% of them and then complaining about sups getting to many waves

people are just ****ty in general with life and the fact there are more people in the water......at least 80% of the sup guys/girls I know are SB's as well so really how many NEW people are getting into the water.....alot have just changed craft

CMC
CMC
QLD
3954 posts
CMC CMC
QLD, 3954 posts
26 Jun 2010 1:04pm
Great tips yes agree on all points. Lately though been riding a shortboard 80% of the time. I would like to add something to this.

Many years ago in my first driving lesson my instructor told me about leaving room for trucks to stop. He told me that due to their weight and size it took a while so doing things like pulling in front of them when stopping at lights etc was a bad idea.

If we are to coexist with others in any lineup people on smaller craft need to be aware not to pit themselves in bad positions in front of us or when paddling back out around us. When I am on shortboard now as I understand the room required and rarely have near misses with any Sup rider.

This is a 2 way street and people need to work it out each direction.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
26 Jun 2010 1:49pm
My Main SUP is shorter than most Mals on the water, and probably lighter too!

I've seen someone get a massive black eye from being hit by a bodyboard! So I don't think it matters what you are riding, common sense and courtesy should be exercised at all times! Loosers tend to be loosers, weather they're flicking a sandy towel upwind of you on the beach, or hogging waves and dropping in.

JB
laceys lane
laceys lane
QLD
19804 posts
QLD, 19804 posts
26 Jun 2010 2:10pm
husq2100 said...

beachsoul said...

Please remember how much of a impact a sup has on the lineup.
1- you always stand futher out than anyone else ( so you can scope set waves everytime)

2- You are on a huge board with lots of paddling power (so you can scope set waves everytime)

3- your boards are big and cumbersome. Hate to be hit by one. Their have been a few close calls. I have'nt heard of anone being hit by one yet

SO please guys take it easy in the water... try and only take a fair share of the set waves.
Explore other breaks...I can think of heaps of cranking sup waves in my area that no one goes to.....

PS Im a 47 year old mainly shortboarder, occassional longboarder...used to longboard much more but i made a choice to do more short boarding while i still can



agreed with all of the above.....BUT when I surf some local spots that 30% of shortboards and 30% of long boarders DO NOT follow their own rules I kinda think why should I its dog eat dog.....

examples:

paddling back out after having caught a wave to paddle straight onto the next wave that peaks for them

dropping in

paddling back up the inside ie taking the straightest route from coming off the wave back to where they were which means being in the way of the next guy on the wave coming

not getting out of the way when someone is surfing a wave

Paddling for the shoulder!!!! this is a big one for me as shortboards can duck dive but i really do wonder...and if im going to take the white wall on, on a 9ft sup they bloody well can have a crack to.

shortboarders being to far out on full days, paddling for waves and only getting onto 10% of them and then complaining about sups getting to many waves

people are just ****ty in general with life and the fact there are more people in the water......at least 80% of the sup guys/girls I know are SB's as well so really how many NEW people are getting into the water.....alot have just changed craft




i wonder about shortboarders be out at lacey's on fat average days. probably the worse piece of equipment you could have out there and then to whinge about not getting waves - really, go and find a beach break or something. unless it's pumping at lacey's, why do they do it to themselfs
teatrea
teatrea
QLD
4177 posts
QLD, 4177 posts
26 Jun 2010 2:25pm
Me and a Nephew went for a Sup at Cabarita thismorning , i expected maybee a bit of Hostility but all was cool.Not many out anyway , even had a short boarder apologies for getting in my way , i just said no worries mate.It was a good vibe from the few that where out.I rerally think this will come to a head in Oz expecially at crowded breaks.
I have seen some very ordinary stuff from suppers who dont know the rules or dont care.Seen more ordinary stuff from the other crew , but unfortunately the focus will be on us.I think it would be a good idea for maybee the local Sup clubs to organize some signs on the popular breaks outlining some precautions , if nothing else it will demonstrate to other water uses that we are trying to regulate.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
26 Jun 2010 3:15pm
JB said...

My Main SUP is shorter than most Mals on the water, and probably lighter too!

I've seen someone get a massive black eye from being hit by a bodyboard! So I don't think it matters what you are riding, common sense and courtesy should be exercised at all times! Loosers tend to be loosers, weather they're flicking a sandy towel upwind of you on the beach, or hogging waves and dropping in.

JB


What JB said.
rodriguez
rodriguez
VIC
883 posts
VIC, 883 posts
26 Jun 2010 5:45pm
Thats how my front teeth went KABOOM
JB said...

My Main SUP is shorter than most Mals on the water, and probably lighter too!

I've seen someone get a massive black eye from being hit by a bodyboard! So I don't think it matters what you are riding, common sense and courtesy should be exercised at all times! Loosers tend to be loosers, weather they're flicking a sandy towel upwind of you on the beach, or hogging waves and dropping in.

JB


Legion
Legion
WA
2222 posts
WA, 2222 posts
27 Jun 2010 12:00pm
JB said...

My Main SUP is shorter than most Mals on the water, and probably lighter too!

It might be shorter, maybe even lighter, but it's volume that counts. That's why in shortboard-land, fishes surf easier than HPSBs, and e.g. hybrids are harder to duckdive than HPSBs. Volume makes it harder to control when things go wrong.

JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
28 Jun 2010 6:55am
Once again, I believe it's all in the hands of the rider. A person riding a HPSUP is more likely to be in control than "Jimmy mini mal" on his hot pink 8'er, zigging and zagging all over the break in a drop knee fashion waving an arm in the arm like he's in a rodeo, trying to get to his feet, wasting waves and endangering others. At any stage, if you ride in condition that are above your level of riding, you will be a liability to the break, Bodyboard, HPSB, fish, Mal, SUP, goatboat and even the local beach fisherman (he's probably the worst). Don't categorize an entire sport.
Think of it this way, it's not the car that had the crash, it's generally the driver!

1. Common sense and respect to others!
2. Ride with in your ability
3. Pick your ride for the conditions
4. If all this seems too hard for you to understand, go collect stamps instead!

I am all in for newby's to the sport, but you have to have common sense. I can't ice skate, so you know what I do, I stay away from the center of the ring, and cruize around the rail with the other unco's. The ocean is no different.

JB
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