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towball
towball
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24 Aug 2012 9:51am
nz.news.yahoo.com/the-next-big-earthquakes-14628661.html
Not sure I'm too comfortable with this lot
Simondo
Simondo
VIC
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24 Aug 2012 12:01pm
Interesting. I've heard 40 year cycles mentioned with earthquakes.
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
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NSW, 14256 posts
24 Aug 2012 12:42pm
So many people have disproved this connection that nobody should waste any more time on it in my humble opinion
towball
towball
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4634 posts
24 Aug 2012 10:50am
I'll try and think of that when we are having the next one
Ted the Kiwi said...

So many people have disproved this connection that nobody should waste any more time on it in my humble opinion


Tassiedevel
Tassiedevel
TAS
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24 Aug 2012 2:18pm
towball said...

I'll try and think of that when we are having the next one
Ted the Kiwi said...

So many people have disproved this connection that nobody should waste any more time on it in my humble opinion





Good time to emigrate TB before Australia puts up the full house sign
towball
towball
4634 posts
4634 posts
24 Aug 2012 2:26pm
That does'nt smoke my tyres Tassie , but I know this country will be screwed if we have another big one in the next ten years . Feel sorry for the people in Christchurch that get faarrrked over by the E Q C . that has swollowed alot of dosh
Tassiedevel said...

towball said...

I'll try and think of that when we are having the next one
Ted the Kiwi said...

So many people have disproved this connection that nobody should waste any more time on it in my humble opinion





Good time to emigrate TB before Australia puts up the full house sign


BulldogPup
BulldogPup
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24 Aug 2012 4:43pm
towball said...

nz.news.yahoo.com/the-next-big-earthquakes-14628661.html
Not sure I'm too comfortable with this lot


I'll have to make sure you cough up that 6-pack beer fine before the next one TB
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
NSW
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27 Aug 2012 8:05pm
Hey TB - sorry for the brevity of my response earlier.....I was flat out last week. So here are a few things to make you feel a bit better.....firstly that there is no significant uptrend in normalised disaster damage from 1980 - until now. Some people will argue that this is not the case and that climate change is effecting meteorological events - this is not the case (i could rabbit on for hours about this point but will not). Essentially the reason that the numbers are going up is because of societal factors - population, wealth and inflation. Effectively we continue to build stupid houses in stupid loctions and we now have more to lose. Earthquakes though are what we call a geological event - no climate change impacts on those!!! The long term occurrence of EQ's are caused by the relative motion of the earth's plates - damage causing earthquakes on a given fault are typically long - in excess of 100 yrs on the most active faults (Japan) and as long as 10,000 years on more technically stable regions (Australia).

With Christchurch we have seen a lot of spatial and temporal clustering (similar to Sumatra in 2004) but no clear pattern. So if you look at these events over a short time frame (relatively speaking) like 20 years we will not see trends similar to those of weather related events.

In NZ, along with Japan and the US seismic provisions were introduced into the building codes in the early part of last century - the goal here was protecting life - recall that EQ's do not kill people generally speaking - its the buildings that fall down that do the damage. Since about 1970 the code took a turn and the design changed to incorporate structures that had the ability to withstand collapse. This has resulted in a dramatic decrease in the incidence of both building collapse and loss of life. People still see the present level of destruction as unacceptable and so further changes have been made in the last 30 odd years and now buildings are designed to achieve a set performance objective given a specified annual probability of occurrence - death, dollar losses and downtime (business losses) - also known as the 3 D's.

Essentially the cause of the escalating damages globally is defective siting, design and construction. Earthquake prediction is not the key to risk reduction - its improvements in EQ engineering and there has been significant advances made in the last 10 years. NZ is at the forefront of this. So whilst yes it may not be the best news you have ever heard you should sleep a bit better knowing that you reside in one of the safest active EQ spots on the planet!!!

From an affordability point NZ has been able to withstand the quakes fairly comfortably - especially when compared to poorer third world economies. The great thing is that at least there is a mechanism (although the EQC may not be perfect) to help communities rebuild after such dramatic events.

Hope that makes you feel a little better
towball
towball
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4634 posts
28 Aug 2012 3:48am
Cheers thanks very much for that ted
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