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Maximum boom length for foiling duck gybe?

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Sandman1221
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11 Mar 2022 11:24pm
Wondering what is the max. boom length for a foiling duck gybe, thanks!
LeeD
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12 Mar 2022 12:38am
After watching old Dave Wells do planing formula duck jibes on a 10.0, I realized there really are no limits when unlimited talent is applied.
Lucky for the rest of us, limits are applied.
Grantmac
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12 Mar 2022 2:00am
IQfoil folks are doing them in practice.
LeeD
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12 Mar 2022 3:29am
Yes, end of last season, as many as 6, IQ sailors were out, and a couple were duck jibing on what looked like 9's.
However....maybe I'm not 23 years old, 6' tall, fit as a fiddle, and a trust funder to boot.
Sandman1221
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12 Mar 2022 8:58am
Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.
aeroegnr
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12 Mar 2022 9:06am
I can duck my 5.0 pretty easily and just practice flipping the sail, non planing, and I've tried ducking the IQ 9.0 and that's more skill than I've got at the moment.
Sandman1221
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12 Mar 2022 9:11am
aeroegnr said..
I can duck my 5.0 pretty easily and just practice flipping the sail, non planing, and I've tried ducking the IQ 9.0 and that's more skill than I've got at the moment.


Okay, thanks, will have to give it a try next time with the 4.5.
LeeD
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12 Mar 2022 9:24am
Sunset Sailboards was foil ducking his 4.4 by his 30th day....
Not me, though I was ducking by mid 1984 on 85 liter boards.
Sandman1221
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12 Mar 2022 10:16am
LeeD said..
Sunset Sailboards was foil ducking his 4.4 by his 30th day....
Not me, though I was ducking by mid 1984 on 85 liter boards.


okay, thanks LeeD
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12 Mar 2022 4:08pm
Sandman1221 said..
Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.


4.5 is an ideal size to practice, for me, one of the biggest key points in the duck jibes was to duck early, but tbh I feel like duckjibes are easier than regular jibes anyway.
2keen
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12 Mar 2022 6:03pm
I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark
Daithidmg
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12 Mar 2022 7:45pm
5.8 with 184 boom is pretty comfy too
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12 Mar 2022 9:54pm
2keen said..
I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark


fwiw, I remember Dorian ducking his RS:X downwind several times in lighter planing conditions during the Olympics. Maybe felt like less chance of coming off a plane? That or he was just flexing.
Sandman1221
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13 Mar 2022 5:07am
WhiteofHeart said..

Sandman1221 said..
Oh man you guys are making me feel like a beginner! Okay, then a 4.5 with a 160 boom should be easy then.



4.5 is an ideal size to practice, for me, one of the biggest key points in the duck jibes was to duck early, but tbh I feel like duckjibes are easier than regular jibes anyway.


Thanks WoH
Sandman1221
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13 Mar 2022 5:07am
2keen said..
I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark


interesting, will keep that in mind 2keen, thanks
LeeD
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13 Mar 2022 5:14am
A duck jibe depends on clean water and air.
90% of slalom is done with 7 meter or bigger sails.
WindMode
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14 Mar 2022 3:35pm
2keen said..
I have seen some big sail ducked but anything 5.0 or under will be easiest. The shorter the boom the easier the duck
Once you know how Duck Gybes aren't difficult BUT they aren't easier than carving, if they were every elite racer would be Duck Gybing on every gybe mark


I meant when using reasonable size sails ofcourse...
LeeD
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15 Mar 2022 3:16am
Put simply, the reason pro racing does not employ duck jibes is dirty water and air. It's encountered 95% of the time.
LeeD
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15 Mar 2022 3:18am
And ducks need a prescribed arc, and has trouble negotiating downed sailors or changes of direction during the turn.
That's why racing is different than fast freeride.
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