Hi
I'm beginning to learn winging, but I don't want to lose light wind flying so I could continue windfoiling in flat and light conditions and winging for getting in small shore break, a bit stronger winds (14-18 knots) and avoid uphauling. This is theory, don't know what I will prefer in future. However, in the meantime what do I do with my gear now?

I'm trying to learn winging with my old windfoiling board because everybody says it's easier a longer fuse and board and, after learning winging you need a much smaller board. I would like to have only one board for everything (hybrid board), but most of the people say are not good enough. Besides I've tested a short windfoiling board (180 cm) and didn't like the feeling. On the other hand, the size of windfoiling board use to be bigger than the winging board for the same guy and wind range.

To simplify a bit, the foil could be only one, a medium big one for very light wind windfoiling and when the wind gets stronger instead of going down sail/foil, keep the foil and move to winging.

Only to share experiences and thoughts, bests hybrid boards, etc. I'm sure two boards is the best solution but wouldn't like to carry and store two.

Thanks.

The V2 Shredsled is a great one board option for winging and windfoiling.



Not sure I have winging video, but I did use it for winging and liked it. Never felt like it was too big. Mostly i was using two front straps for windfoil and winging

Dirly is prob right but because the tracks are so long and you can have foil very far forward i feel it wings smaller than it's 110L.

Found some wing video

www.instagram.com/tv/CcdY_OGJy-D/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

windsurf.star-board.com/windsurfing-boards/foil-windsurf-boards/foil-x-wing-board/

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I'm using a Fanatic Stingray 115 for both, but I definitely feel like it's a compromise for winging. I'll probably buy a dedicated wing board next year.

BullroarerTook said..
I'm using a Fanatic Stingray 115 for both, but I definitely feel like it's a compromise for winging. I'll probably buy a dedicated wing board next year.

Hi Bullroarer. And how is the stingray 115 for freeride windfoiling at your weight and conditions? Does it lose something due to wing compatibility?

Mucel said..

thedoor said..

seanhogan said..
windsurf.star-board.com/windsurfing-boards/foil-windsurf-boards/foil-x-wing-board/

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shape looks good. Pictures don't seem to show a mast track?

They don't have mast track, only one or two mast inserts

Oh definitely not a fan then

The problem is that a high wind windfoiling board works as a light wing winging board, but not the other way around.
Probably the best compromise is the W114, but that'll get very big for winging fairly soon and isn't a super light wind board for windfoiling.

Grantmac said..
The problem is that a high wind windfoiling board works as a light wing winging board, but not the other way around.
Probably the best compromise is the W114, but that'll get very big for winging fairly soon and isn't a super light wind board for windfoiling.

Agree with this with the caveat that a 114L board does make a good starter board for winging *if you already have one*.

I see a good bunch of people keeping both windfoiling and winging permanently. Some leave windfoiling for simplicity. Question for those who keep both. Which are the reasons they keep windfoiling? Taking off earlier in light winds than winging? Other?

I intend on windfoiling with bigger sails in race mode during the light wind winter days since a swim in is pretty uncomfortable in 0-5c weather and usually when we get a storm front it's enough for my waveboard.
I don't really enjoy winging until it's at least gusting 15kts.

One thing I hadn't thought about until last night is that winging is far easier to avoid junk in the water because you can slow down and turn all while having excellent forward visibility.
Our local conditions would be miserable for windsurfing (very high gust to lull ratio) and the debris favors winging.

On flat water without junk in it I'd probably rather go fast on windfoil.

And how people who practice both permanently decide what to do every day? Which days are dedicated to winging and which ones to windfoiling?
Is it only until they get a good skill on winging?
Is it a mess of gear or possible with only one balanced board? In this second case there must be performance sacrifices in one or both sports

Mucel said..
And how people who practice both permanently decide what to do every day? Which days are dedicated to winging and which ones to windfoiling?
Is it only until they get a good skill on winging?
Is it a mess of gear or possible with only one balanced board? In this second case there must be performance sacrifices in one or both sports

I don't know of anyone else that wind & wing foils in my local area...I'm pretty much the redheaded step child

Anything under 15 knots and I will wind foil, if around15-20 I will probably wing foil because I love getting airtime...when the winds is 25+ I will choose depending on wind direction and launch site.

I see wingers struggle in cross off winds in waves but for wind foiling I can use the sail efficiency to stay up in the pocket and ride swells for miles, if the wind is cross shore and small swell, I can get super boosting air on a wing.

I have really worked on getting my gear as simple as possible:
Windfoiling - one board, 2 sails, 1 mast and boom with the phantasm 92cm mast, 926 and 730 front wings
Wingfoiling - one board, 2 wings with the phantasm 82cm mast, 926 and 730 front wings

Sometimes if I have a late work meeting and its already close to 6pm by the time I get to the beach, if the foil is bolted on the board, it takes 60 seconds to pump a wing, no harness, just climb into the speedos and you can literally be on the water as soon as possible to catch that last bit of wind, this has been a session saver a few times.

I honestly love both of them, each session is a learning curve or trying something new and having a combination of gear just means I can pretty guarantee a great time on the water.

Dirly said..
I still like both, winging is great but it doesn't make windfoil bad.

100% sums it up

Also most ex windsurfers who wing have absolutely no idea how awesome windfoiling is.......

patronus said..

thedoor said..

Dirly said..
I still like both, winging is great but it doesn't make windfoil bad.

100% sums it up

Also most ex windsurfers who wing have absolutely no idea how awesome windfoiling is.......

Go on then, tell us why is windfoiling so awesome

I thought i just did lol, but it's not like me to shy away from a mic...


Windfoiling is awesome because it's makes everything we love about windsurfing more attainable/consistent. Windsurfing may have peak maximum thrill (debatable point) but windfoiling has a higher average session thrill especially in marginal conditions.