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Video tutorial from Balz Mueller at Bonair

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Created by PatK > 9 months ago, 26 Apr 2019
PatK
296 posts
26 Apr 2019 11:30PM
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www.4actionsport.it/a-lezione-di-foil-con-balz-muller/?fbclid=IwAR0ZGOVfxEJtwzK10fueS2GM80qDEDBkgzMYPZdEa8Zbljwue9L5puX9jFo

Really nice tutorial. Explains the most important steps and securty tips. Also like the advice to carry the stuff.

Paducah
2451 posts
27 Apr 2019 3:28AM
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So kumamovie gets some youtube clicks

LeeD
3939 posts
27 Apr 2019 5:41AM
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3 minutes in, he's wrong.
Easy to move front and rear feet once foiling.

azymuth
WA, 1962 posts
27 Apr 2019 9:22AM
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LeeD said..
3 minutes in, he's wrong.
Easy to move front and rear feet once foiling.


If you don't agree, that doesn't make him wrong

CJW
NSW, 1717 posts
27 Apr 2019 12:53PM
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LeeD said..
3 minutes in, he's wrong.
Easy to move front and rear feet once foiling.


Is English your second language dude?...and your timestamp is wrong, he mentions this at ~1min in yeah?

Secondly he's not saying you literally can't move your feet....but you don't want to be moving them. He even goes on to elaborate and say, particularly the front foot.

The majority of control comes from your front foot, you can not foil with any serious control with it not in the strap....you also can't pump the foil effectively.

LeeD
3939 posts
27 Apr 2019 11:47AM
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Really? Lot's of windfoilers don't use any footstraps, and foil just fine.
Add SUP foilers and kitefoilers to the mix. Do you see surf foilers with straps?

DunkO
NSW, 1143 posts
27 Apr 2019 2:07PM
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Do you see them holding a sail.

CJW
NSW, 1717 posts
27 Apr 2019 5:05PM
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LeeD said..
Really? Lot's of windfoilers don't use any footstraps, and foil just fine.
Add SUP foilers and kitefoilers to the mix. Do you see surf foilers with straps?


Have you ever actually windfoiled mate or are you recounting stuff you've seen on the internet? Sure, a small minority foil without straps but they are probably in the surf on slow wings or something similar.

It is not something a beginner should try nor is is conducive to having control over your gear or early flight. On race gear it's flat out dangerous. Stop spreading misinformation on an overall spot on video, imo.

Subsonic
WA, 2964 posts
27 Apr 2019 4:10PM
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LeeD said..
Really? Lot's of windfoilers don't use any footstraps, and foil just fine.
Add SUP foilers and kitefoilers to the mix. Do you see surf foilers with straps?



Watch them again closer. They might be strapless, but im willing to bet a large sum of money that none of them are dancing a jig whilst foiling along.

Every little foot movement has a direct influence on the foil, because if your weight isn't on one foot its all on the other one.

remery
WA, 1887 posts
27 Apr 2019 8:23PM
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I thought there were a lot of good points for beginner/intermediates like me

WhiteofHeart
762 posts
28 Apr 2019 12:36AM
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Definately aimed at beginners, but very happy its there. Ofcourse he's not describing the most optimal technique in the beginning of the video, but it is the easiest way I think.

especially happy about what he's saying about the mastfoot position, people never listen when I say the same thing because they're afraid the foil lifts out of the water entirely. People don't seem to understand that actually happens more often when they have to pressure the backfoot to get up in the air. In my opinion the key of learning to foil, and the key point most beginners are stuck on.

PatK
296 posts
28 Apr 2019 12:51AM
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Was out today at lake Constance switzerland. Moved mastfoot way back and found it much better than in middle pos. Love my sb race foil with 95 fuse

Mort67
TAS, 423 posts
28 Apr 2019 7:03AM
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I'll be trying the shore break entry technique next time I go out. Good tip.

duzzi
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29 Apr 2019 12:08AM
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PatK said..
www.4actionsport.it/a-lezione-di-foil-con-balz-muller/?fbclid=IwAR0ZGOVfxEJtwzK10fueS2GM80qDEDBkgzMYPZdEa8Zbljwue9L5puX9jFo

Really nice tutorial. Explains the most important steps and securty tips. Also like the advice to carry the stuff.









This is indeed a very good tutorial. As a beginner myself two things stand out: (1) feet position before/after you take off, and (2) "wind tunnel" between your legs.

This is what I am getting out f the video: foot movement from displacement to foiling is kind of the opposite of windsurfing (from displacement to planing). You either put both feet in the straps before you take off, or If you have just the front foot strap you do not move the foot back when you start to take off!!!! The back foot is locked in place (Look at 5'). If anything you do the opposite of windsurfing (5'45"): move the back foot forward the second you are on the foil to keep the board down.

For leg position (2) is useful because the normal windsurf position effectively closes the space between your legs, while the upright foil position keeps that space open. Keeping the tunnel open is a good reminder.

Lots of other good stuff, circular pumping, jibing, and very nice board carrying moves.

thedoor
2191 posts
29 Apr 2019 12:30AM
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excellent video from start to finish.

DavidJohn
VIC, 17408 posts
29 Apr 2019 9:13AM
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Awesome video.. Thanks for posting it.

29 Apr 2019 10:39AM
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I agree, - Great video.

Normally I would only watch a few minutes of any video, but this one had some good pointers by Balz, so I did watch all 18min of it.

We are all on different stages of the wind foiling and I think it had something for every sailors there. Beginner to advanced.

Personally I'm more 'scared' of the shore break will 'get me one day', walking in and out with the gear, than any crashes on the actual foil.
So glad there was some good point on how to carry it :)

No doubt that Balz is one the very top of his game, for freestyle / jumping on it.

Another thing that he pointed out is in the jibes, is to swing the sail first, gain control and then switch the feets over, directly into the other front foot strap.
Over time I have come to the same conclusion and it seams to be on 'automatic' now and it really makes the jibe a lot smoother if you can try to use this tip. The inboard placed foot straps do help with this and also if there is the possibility to have the strap a little more parallel to the rail. This also ensure that if you fall over the front you are less likely to get trapped with the front foot in the strap. (it let go easier)

Good stuff :)

J

martyj4
500 posts
29 Apr 2019 11:57AM
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No doubt. This guy is a complete talent. Great vid, and lots to pick up.
I would say the implication of "holding the boom means that if you crash, you won't get hit by the foil" is not correct. I have had the foil tilt the board sideways - railing (foil coming up on the windward side of the board), and have seen it emerge from the water and me lose balance at the same time, falling to windward - and potentially on top of the foil. Luckily I didn't collide with the foil, but it made me realise that it is still possible - granted unlikely.
Also, I found the reason for having the sail mast base in the rearwards position was so that I could get into the footstraps easier to pump the sail and foil up. If the mast base was further forwards, getting into the straps was much harder as the centre of effort from the sail transferred onto the board in a much more forwards position, meaning that the board would want to round up into the wind.
Initially while learning, I had the rear wing tilted up to get maximum lift and the foil was virtually uncontrolable. I flattened the rear wing off, to the point that it was slightly negative and still found that in moderate conditions, getting the foil to fly was easy. So I don't think you need to move the mast base in order to get maximum lift when learning - more for getting into the straps. Control was the tricky thing.
I have also pumped the sail up while not being in the footstraps and have found it slightly trickier than when in the straps, but still not dangerous. Once you get plenty of speed, the I would agree, getting the feet into the straps is well worth it.
Again, my technique was different to Balz - DEFINITELY not saying he's wrong. Just that his approach is different to mine.

Faff
VIC, 1165 posts
29 Apr 2019 10:03PM
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The "how to carry" advice is absolute gold.



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