100kg uphaul

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grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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31 Mar 2006 12:12pm

I'm looking at buying something short and wide that will get me through the winter doldrums.

I am currently looking at a Hypersonic 133.

coming in at a rather portly 100kg is 133L enough volume to allow me to uphaul in the event that there is not enough wind to waterstart?
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
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31 Mar 2006 12:25pm
Yep, uphaul no worries. I could uphaul my 105 Hypervomit easily at my past weight of 85 kg. Hypervomits are real wide, the width gives it stability which makes uphauling a pinch of piss.

My tips for winter, something big if you wanna sail the pus , something small to sail the storms

Pugs
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
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TAS, 2317 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:29pm
quote:
Originally posted by grumplestiltskin


I'm looking at buying something short and wide that will get me through the winter doldrums.




How about an Eskimo chick?
mkseven
mkseven
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31 Mar 2006 2:32pm
I'm 90-95kg and a hypersonic 111 is my biggest board I use from 10 knots. Uphauling and tacking were a little different at the start as there is no nose but you soon get used to it. Be warned hyper's do not plane early, the key is to rig big and use the sail power to release the board. Dont be afraid to use a big fin either (it's just hyper's love using small fins too).
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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WA, 7733 posts
31 Mar 2006 12:42pm
quote:
mkseven Posted - 31/03/2006 : 12:32:22 I'm 90-95kg and a hypersonic 111 is my biggest board I use from 10 knots. Uphauling and tacking were a little different at the start as there is no nose but you soon get used to it. Be warned hyper's do not plane early, the key is to rig big and use the sail power to release the board. Dont be afraid to use a big fin either (it's just hyper's love using small fins too).


Too true. Vomits must be given a lot of curry to perform well... With fins and vomits, smaller by sail size than typical is defineatly the way to go. If your back leg is getting sore (which it won't be as you don't have one - yet), there's a fair chance your fin is too big (of course it could be the sail position on the mast track though).
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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31 Mar 2006 12:43pm
quote:
Be warned hyper's do not plane early


damn, really??

Been farting about on a JP freestyle wave 93 over summer, and loved it.

was looking for something that would plane easy and zip along fast during the 8-15kn light wind times during winter (and summer for that matter).

Any other recommendations then ... with regards to boards that is (not eskimo chicks WW)
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
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WA, 7733 posts
31 Mar 2006 12:52pm
I could easily plane (and keep planing - just not very fast) on my vomit in plus 12 knots with a 7.0 and a 34cm fin. It just took pointing off the wind and a "bit" of pumping to get it going!

If you are serious about sailing in the pus, a formula board is the way to go, with a nice big 10.0 or something like that. I tried sailing the pus last winter with a ~125l slalom board, biggest sail was 8.5, it was enough sometimes. A formula set-up would have seen me covered. This winter it is storms and small stuff for me Lets hope they they are regular
mkseven
mkseven
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31 Mar 2006 4:04pm
Dont get a formula board and I do have a suggestion- Exocet Scross 140. Caloundra city sailboards has them at the moment for $1890. I've ridden the 120 a few times and was impressed by it... planes earlier than my hyper (the 120 is narrower than a hyper), nicer through the chop and feels much stiffer underfoot but the shock absorbers definately take the edge off.

Speed potential- on flat water I reckon the hyper would take it, through chop the scross makes it easier to keep the speed up. The hyper does point higher and carries speed further upwind than pretty much any other board short of a formula (and I outdone some formula boards upwind when powered up also).

I dont recommend the hyper for everyone, they are a very challenging board calling on all you know about board/rig setup to get the very most out of them. On top of that they are quite a physical board to sail. But you do go places with them since they can point so high and keep alot of speed on most points of sail. I plane in 10 knots with a 9m flattish sail (formula not slalom cut) and a 52cm fin and i'm only 5 or so kg lighter and that is on a 111. To me it planes late as I compared it to my old 299 59cm wide 150L course board which with the same sail and fin would plane in 6/7 knots. The 133 would plane earlier than the 111 though and handle a 10m sail comfortably.

So if you are a racer or like the challenge and going places get a hyper. Anything less than that get something like the scross- you will enjoy it better and probably get more out of it.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
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31 Mar 2006 2:20pm
thanks guys,
I wasn't intending to buy new, or spend very much at all actually, as i do prefer the 18-25kn range with a smaller board (even on flat water).

but there are times when you haven't sailed for weeks, the winds not getting any stronger and the urge to get on the water gets too great.

will keep looking around.
hardman
hardman
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1116 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:16pm
Hey Grumps,

I wouldn't go a H133 or Formula.

What I've heard is the Starboard Carve 131 is a good board, and may suit you, (a mate highly recommends it as his light wind board, but he's 78kg, you could go bigger to the Carve 161. But lot's of other boards arounf,

What do others think????
mkseven
mkseven
QLD
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31 Mar 2006 5:33pm
If you can get the 133 for a good price then by all means get it, one thing they can do is add a bit of interest since they take a bit of time to set up and get the most out of.
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