Adjustable outhall on wave sails

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Krusty
Krusty
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
21 Sep 2007 4:04pm

I read an article about Nik Baker using adjustable outhalls all the time when he waves sails.
It seems whenever I sail Im always wanting more power on the way out but then when catching a wave im always wanting less power. Sounds like the adjustable outhall could work for me. More grunt for the schlog out and a flatter sail for the ride in.

Has anyone used them before or seen them before (on waves sails)?
What brands are making them other than North?
Where can you get them?
mr love
mr love
VIC
2424 posts
VIC, 2424 posts
21 Sep 2007 4:09pm
One of my mates was using one for while , the same setup as a Formula board with the Clamcleats on the boom . He ended up taking it off as he reckoned it got in the way when he "duck gybed" .
I have been thinking of doing it . Perfect for the Melbourne Northerlies and Westerly fronts where the wind is really up and down .It,s pretty simple , you just need to get a set of the Clamcleats that fit around the boom . A couple of pulleys and some rope and your done .
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
21 Sep 2007 2:25pm
yeah i have seen a few guys use them around city beach/cott they mainly use them there so they can get out past the windblock, i havent used them though you can get them at most race based shops i think,
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
21 Sep 2007 8:47pm
I've never tried the idea, but I envisage a couple of small problems.

Any chance of getting tangled in the extra ropes?

If you're always tightening on one side loosening on the other, do you eventually run out of rope on the loosen side, and end up with a long trailing length on the tighten side?

Guess you can remember to adjust just before you gybe, and keep the adjustments to one side of the boom.
mr love
mr love
VIC
2424 posts
VIC, 2424 posts
22 Sep 2007 12:03pm
Yep that can be an issue . When your racing you always have to remember to give it a tug before you Gybe ( the outhaul that is)
It,s a bugger when you get to the bottom mark with your sail fully bagged out , turn to go back up wind and there is no adjustment left.
puffin
puffin
235 posts
235 posts
22 Sep 2007 10:47am
Racing and wave sailing seem quite different to me in terms of adjusting the outhaul. In racing you have predictable needs for increases and decreases, with enough time to actually make the adjustment. Aside from the convenience of adding power outbound, then tightening for the inbound reach, it seems overly complicating.

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Originally posted by decrepit

I've never tried the idea, but I envisage a couple of small problems.

Any chance of getting tangled in the extra ropes?

If you're always tightening on one side loosening on the other, do you eventually run out of rope on the loosen side, and end up with a long trailing length on the tighten side?

Guess you can remember to adjust just before you gybe, and keep the adjustments to one side of the boom.

mkseven
mkseven
QLD
2315 posts
QLD, 2315 posts
22 Sep 2007 12:49pm
I tried this on my wave sails for a while. Whilst I don't try that many duck gybes it was a pain in the a$$ and I took it off. If you want to do it get the cam buckle (cheap one) and mount it underneath instead of on top of the boom arm.
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
22 Sep 2007 12:12pm
too much effort! bit like the adjustable downhaul...

spend more time on the waves instead of sail trim.

mr plod
mr plod
49 posts
49 posts
22 Sep 2007 5:22pm
wouldnt it just be another thing to get in the way?? I couldnt think of anything worse than moving my hand back on the boom during a bottom turn and feel some kind of cleaty type gadget distracting you.
I find when Im riding a wave I want my sole focus to be on the wave and what its doing, not on adjusting my outhaul!! If you need to go to those lengths to tune your gear for differernt scenarios during a session your probably on the wrong gear.
Krusty
Krusty
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
22 Sep 2007 10:01pm
You wouldnt be using the ajustable outhall while riding a wave. It would be set on the opposite side. When you are heading out you would release it and then before you gybe to catch a wave you would tension it.
I think you would end up getting more waves as your gear would always be tuned correctly for the conditions. You would also not need to head to the beach to tune your sail as much.

Sounds like the common ground has been that they are a nuicance when duck gybing. I think that your suggestion mkseven is the one im after. Guess i'll give it a go and see if it works out.
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