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seeyamate
seeyamate
WA
2 posts
WA, 2 posts
1 Jan 2005 2:33pm
Have got a Tiga 271 free X and would appreciate any general advice on it's strengths/weaknesses/tuning/tecnique etc
Am fairly new to sailing , am happy and comfortable in harness/straps but crap at gybing - you may not know me but you know my type !
Any tips welcomed
Thanks
Dan
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
1 Jan 2005 9:02pm
Welcome!

Don't know about the Tiga, but I'm sure it's a great board, and these tips would suit any board:

* Lean out and keep your arms straight when sailing is a straight line.

* Go into your gybes powered up & bend your knees when you gybe. Not a "I think I'm bending them", but a serious "squat" type bend.

* Smile & feel great.

Enjoy .. Lozzza

p.s. If you posted some specific "challenges" you might have, plenty of folk are keen to help..

snides8
snides8
WA
1731 posts
WA, 1731 posts
1 Jan 2005 8:59pm
yep ditto laurie's advice, the tip i offer concerns gybing- firstly let me state i know i am one of the worst offenders, so i am no expert, how ever from watching a lot of sailors i have noticed the most common problem in my opinion is the failure to plain-thru or even carry any speed thru the gybe. this problem is not isolated to just new comers but to lots of seasoned/experienced sailors as well.
the prime cause of this (imo) is due to the sailor getting caught too far back on the board especially after the board has passed dead down wind.this tends to sink the tail thus creating drag and slowing the board almost to a stop which then in turn, allows the 'pressure' in the sail to re establish thus adding to the drama, usually resulting in a swim for the less experienced.
i think the key is to keep your weight forward thru the turn. try and time when you let the sail go and grab it on the new tack to shift your 'new' front foot, all the way forward at the same time, even stick it as far as the mast base.then move back into the straps when starting to plain again. this should keep the board flat thru the turn and hopefully in turn keep the speed up.as i said before i am no expert this is just my observation, in summary the easiest/quickest way to improve is to get some lessons from the guys/gals who know!! good luck.

snides8
Tozza
Tozza
WA
160 posts
WA, 160 posts
2 Jan 2005 9:28am
www.guycribb.com/page0076v01.htm

Have a look at some of those articles ... I reckon they offer some pretty good explanations.
seeyamate
seeyamate
WA
2 posts
WA, 2 posts
2 Jan 2005 10:44am
thanks for all the above!
I reckon I'll try to think "squat" rather than bend the knees because it's one thing to know thats what you should do and another thing to actually get the body to do it.
I'll also try getting my new front foot further forward, ? next to the mast foot as per snides8; I'm sure I'm getting to far back on the tail of the board
Haven't tried the link yet but I'll check it out now - thanks tozza
eastie
eastie
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
3 Jan 2005 9:50am
top tips - i am with seeyamate - can be frustrating making same mistakes. sure i am not forward enough. i have also had better results when i keep the head up and look where i want to go - carve seems tighter and smoother
makatak
makatak
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
5 Jan 2005 8:53am
definitely *bend* the knees. I started seriously bending a few weeks ago - head below boom height in the jibe - and a whole bunch of things came good immediately as a result. 1) Better speed through the jibe - more forward I guess; 2) quicker more dynamic sail flip; 3) absorb the chop better; 4) more feel for the carve

Biggest improvement in one session since the pre harness and straps days.

makatak
eastie
eastie
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
5 Jan 2005 1:17pm
i heard that the action is a bit like curtseying whilst giving the strong arm tackle in rugby - ie front arm straight. I managed to de-kook myself a little and do the big bend and straight front arm - whoa - big difference. Immediately felt heaps more power in the sail into the turn, with more speed, and best of all because i had been pulled forwards more, more mast foot pressure, more stable board through the chop - almost easy!! Still fluffed full plane via the sail flip, but felt a whole lot closer.

Any other tips for young players??
Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
5 Jan 2005 8:14pm
when u bend ur knees point them towards the centre of the turning circle of ur carve. this will help keep it all together.
with the sail flip move the front hand to right next to the mast b4 u start to carve.

I found the best thing was watching Alan Cadiz's video on gybing. The video is well worth the money or try and borrow it from someone. it had me gybing in just a few sessions after studying the video a few times.
cheers Bertie

www.outdoorshots.com.au/view_sessionshot.php?eid=43&pg=6&sid=04p1313110
www.outdoorshots.com.au/view_sessionshot.php?eid=45&pg=1&sid=04p2043521
www.outdoorshots.com.au/view_sessionshot.php?eid=101&pg=17&sid=04pc182323
eastie
eastie
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
10 Jan 2005 3:36pm
tozza - i checked out the cribb docs - thanks cos they are really good. simple, easy to understand, stick in your head when you are out there getting bounced around, and broken up into simple steps.

Late last year i introduced myself to chop hops, and a couple of days ago i managed a first jump ... floaty-hanging-of-boom-type.

Does anyone else out there have tips for jumps? Stay in harness, or out, hang off boom, or try to jump with legs? tail landing, nose landing, head landing?
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
10 Jan 2005 7:22pm
"Does anyone else out there have tips for jumps? Stay in harness, or out, hang off boom, or try to jump with legs? tail landing, nose landing, head landing?"

I'd reckon if you're starting to jump off decent size chop/waves, then unhook when learning, because once you're airborne, if (when) it goes wobbly because you haven't got the hang of controlling the board in the air with your feet ...

Once you've got your confidence up, then jumping hooked in becomes second nature (just like being in the footstraps etc..)

Go for the tail landing for sure .. nose landings are for people better than you and me (for now...)

Have fun .. Lozza

FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
10 Jan 2005 10:44pm
Haha, speaking of nose landings, the other sunday I landed nose first and went through my sail, and bashed my hip and thumb, couldnt sail for a week coz it all way too much. Plus had to fix the bloody sail.

Haydz
eastie
eastie
WA
43 posts
WA, 43 posts
11 Jan 2005 3:55pm
thanks laurie - we be unhooked and ready to fly (in my case this means anything up to a whopping 40cm above the water surface). When taking off i feel more comfortable keeping the front foot up, and keeping the windward rail up (pointing toes a little). I am also very conscious of the back foot extending to contact the water again.

THe first jump was hooked in, and felt very comfy cos i just went with it, but know i'll get out of the harness and push a little more[}:)]. Should be relicating Filtyamateur tricks in no time!!! mental note - ask the wife for more gear money....
laurie
laurie
QLD
3902 posts
QLD, 3902 posts
12 Jan 2005 10:16am
wicked eastie - sounds like you'll be doing one handed jumps in no time!
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