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Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
9 Aug 2007 6:32pm
I am not trying to start a Civil War or anything but I would be interested to hear which of the state capitals has the best local (within 1hr drive) windsurfing spots.

Also if you could live anywhere in Oz and windsurf as much as you want (forget your job) where would that be?
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
9 Aug 2007 5:04pm
Arlo you don't realise what you have started!

But I got in here first so I better make it quick.

WA.

Go live in Gerro and you will be happy for the rest of your life..(windsurfingwise)
(And don't make a pretty woman your wife).
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
9 Aug 2007 5:21pm
I was born, bread and buttered in WA, I have seen better places for different reasons, when I get back to WA I always feel good. I dont think I could live any place else, Lotto may change that however..... Sadly not yet

Ocean to the west, desert to the east and we live bang in the middle.

Yep, I want to be here in WA

Cheers GT
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
9 Aug 2007 7:01pm
um im from adelaide.. even i admit that WA ****s all over any were in australia for windsurfing. as soon as i have finished my apprentiship guess where in going... WA is like world class in some spots for windsurfing i think??? isnt it!
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
9 Aug 2007 7:39pm
I was going to say Hobart, but suspect the true answer will be Perth.
bubs
bubs
SA
924 posts
SA, 924 posts
9 Aug 2007 7:11pm
I personally think for lifestyle (discluding WA's amazing windsurfing) Adelaide is prity good. Parklands all around the city. Not to big and busy. And peak hour only goes for 10-15 mins. Even then it's nothing like the other capitals. I live in the hills to which is realy nice and quite.

Bubs
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
9 Aug 2007 5:44pm

Windsurfing247 should be along here shortly folks!..

I've lived in a few places too (UK,Canaries,Spain,Sweden) and have been to most of the windsurfing spots in Europe.
Perth - Lancelin - Geraltdon beats them all.
But saying that, stay away cos we're fully booked out.
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
QLD, 7436 posts
9 Aug 2007 9:46pm
....not Brisbane .... sadly ....
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
9 Aug 2007 8:03pm
got back from work at 2.50, chucked my gear in the car and was at my local by 3 for my best winter wave sesh this yr.

sailing 2-3 times a week at the mo in the winter....can't wait 4 summer
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
9 Aug 2007 9:47pm
Maui...oh you said Australia

WA would be my pick if you want sailing all year round,

Adelaide, Its OK.....
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
9 Aug 2007 10:25pm
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(Sorry, really hard to type with frozen fingers. Really trying to say MELB, I mean Perth)
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
9 Aug 2007 11:40pm
Looks like it was a bit of a dumb question then; I think I already knew the answer but as there is little chance of me getting a job in WA I thought I'd ask in case there was anywhere better
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
9 Aug 2007 11:13pm
I've got some Pommy friends, who've sailed just about everywhere. A few years ago they got their residency and settled in Geraldton. A few months ago some freinds they'd made in Maui asked them to house sit for them, 2 lots of gear and car included!!!
Off course they accepted, but I was surprised to get an email from them a week or so ago saying they can't wait to get back and sail corronations again!
Apparently they're getting stacks of wind on Maui, but there's no waves and it's very choppy!
Ian K
Ian K
WA
4170 posts
WA, 4170 posts
10 Aug 2007 8:28am
Average wind in Capital cities - from the BOM

Perth 15.6 kph
Adelaide 12.5 kph
Hobart 11.7 kph
Melbourne 11.7 kph
Sydney 11.6 kph
Brisbane 10.5 kph
Darwin 10.1 kph
Canberra 5.4 kph

But I'd guess that Canberra ranks about no.2 behind Perth in sailors per head of population.
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
10 Aug 2007 10:34am
quote:
But I'd guess that Canberra ranks about no.2 behind Perth in sailors per head of population.


I'd guess that Hobart ranks #1 in heads per sailor
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
10 Aug 2007 9:02am
quote:
Originally posted by easty

quote:
But I'd guess that Canberra ranks about no.2 behind Perth in sailors per head of population.


I'd guess that Hobart ranks #1 in heads per sailor



Hobart also has the best pizza place next to a sailing spot in all of Aus, if not the entire WORLD... Sandy Bay Wood Fired Pizza... mmmm...
easty
easty
TAS
2213 posts
TAS, 2213 posts
10 Aug 2007 11:28am
quote:
Hobart also has the best pizza place next to a sailing spot in all of Aus, if not the entire WORLD... Sandy Bay Wood Fired Pizza... mmmm...


And Sandy Bay also has free hot showers, perfect place for winter sailing. (apart from somewhere warmer)
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
10 Aug 2007 9:41am
quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

Looks like it was a bit of a dumb question then; I think I already knew the answer but as there is little chance of me getting a job in WA I thought I'd ask in case there was anywhere better



Why do you say "there is little chance of me getting a job in WA"???

The economy is booming, if you fall over in front of an employment agency they press gang you into work!

What do you do for a job? must be specialised!
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
10 Aug 2007 10:23am
For wavesailing, Geralton, you can't beat it anywhere!!

For speedsailing: Mandurah, not that we have a sandypoint speedstrip coz we don't, but that we just get so much wind all year, the weather is warm, winters mild but stormy, about 10 speedstrips, and wavesailing about 7 or 8 breaks 3 easily accessible, the rest 4WD only. Mandurah is 1 hour south of perth.
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
10 Aug 2007 10:41am
quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

Looks like it was a bit of a dumb question then; I think I already knew the answer but as there is little chance of me getting a job in WA I thought I'd ask in case there was anywhere better



Grumpy is right Arlo, you would have to be a retard in wheelchair with no wheels to not get a job in perth at the moment. And even then you'd probably get a job as a roof tiler.

Tell us what you do, we might be able to help.

Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
10 Aug 2007 12:12pm
quote:
Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

Looks like it was a bit of a dumb question then; I think I already knew the answer but as there is little chance of me getting a job in WA I thought I'd ask in case there was anywhere better



Why do you say "there is little chance of me getting a job in WA"???

The economy is booming, if you fall over in front of an employment agency they press gang you into work!

What do you do for a job? must be specialised!



I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you

It is a fairly specific area of the defence systems industry; hence I'm currently in Adelaide. I don't think there'd be too much trouble with moving to NSW (Newcastle, Sydney) but I haven't found any suitable companies in WA yet. Maybe I should just wait until I get citizenship and then pack it in for a bar job; work in the evening and sail during the day
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
10 Aug 2007 12:41pm
quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

quote:
Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

Looks like it was a bit of a dumb question then; I think I already knew the answer but as there is little chance of me getting a job in WA I thought I'd ask in case there was anywhere better



Why do you say "there is little chance of me getting a job in WA"???

The economy is booming, if you fall over in front of an employment agency they press gang you into work!

What do you do for a job? must be specialised!



I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you

It is a fairly specific area of the defence systems industry; hence I'm currently in Adelaide. I don't think there'd be too much trouble with moving to NSW (Newcastle, Sydney) but I haven't found any suitable companies in WA yet. Maybe I should just wait until I get citizenship and then pack it in for a bar job; work in the evening and sail during the day



I am in a car club that has many members that work out at Edinburgh, all very top secret.......
The Grinch
The Grinch
WA
733 posts
WA, 733 posts
10 Aug 2007 11:14am
Arlo,
Before I came to perth I worked at SAAB military Aircraft in Sweden as an aerodynamicist, which is fairly specific.
I moved to Perth and had to jump into programming which i'm sure you are capable of.

If you aren't 100% MAD keen on your work and like me it only supplied the fuel to your windsurfing addiction then you should maybe consider moving.
You will get a job here, no doubt.

We get the sea breeze from December to March which is basically a cool 20 knot cross on shore South Westerly that blows pretty much like clockwork every day from around 2:00pm to say 6:00pm.
You can sail in the summer till your arms fall off all day every day.
Not much wave action in Perth during summer, you need to drive to..
Lancelin - 100km
Geraldton - 500km

The winter is far less predictable and you will be sailing storm fronts from all directions. But I would say you'll be sailing every other weekend on average ( unless you have a job like some of the buggers here whereby you can knock off work during the week.)

As the TV Game Shows say
"The choice is yours".





Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
10 Aug 2007 1:11pm
quote:
Originally posted by divaldo


I am in a car club that has many members that work out at Edinburgh, all very top secret.......



Dave, that is where I am working at the moment.

Grinch, to be quite honest I haven't had a chance to look into what companies and opportunities there are in WA yet; firstly I need to convince the missus to come out here and stay; then sort out permanent residency etc. If quality of life is that much better (i.e. sail as much as possible) then I'd even consider taking a big salary cut to get a job.

For the moment I can afford to give SA a chance, I've never had a chance to sail in waves, I've always had to settle for flat water which I'm getting v bored with, and so just getting into chop hopping/crashing.
Pointman
Pointman
WA
437 posts
WA, 437 posts
10 Aug 2007 12:50pm
quote:
Originally posted by Arlo

For the moment I can afford to give SA a chance, I've never had a chance to sail in waves, I've always had to settle for flat water which I'm getting v bored with, and so just getting into chop hopping/crashing.



Get yourself a GPS! Puts a whole new spin on flat water blasting. Until recently I only sailed on the ocean in Perth, but now that I'm a certified speed junky I hang out for sailing the flat stuff on the river and seeing how quick I can go.

Haven't totally forsaken the waves however...just ordered a new custom wave board and looking forward to a Gnaraloo sojourn in October. Bottom line...WA has all the disciplines covered, whatever your fancy.


Gonewindsurfing247
Gonewindsurfing247
WA
966 posts
WA, 966 posts
10 Aug 2007 1:13pm
Arlo,

This is a topic true to my heart (thanks Grinchy).

I was born and grew up in Sydney (rat race capital of Australia).

I use to windsurf only on weekends and sickies. Most of the time I would travel to my selected spot (mainly Narabeen or Kymeeah) only to find that it wasn’t windy by the time I got there. Very frustrating indeed.

For years I had been dreaming of travelling to WA to check out the hype. I managed to convince the wife to go to WA on a tourist sight seeing holiday combined with a little bit of windsurfing along the way. She was reluctant at first but agreed as long as it wasn’t just a windsurfing safari.

As soon as we got here we just seemed to become different people. Life is much more relaxed over here and the people are friendlier. We just fell in love with place. We travelled up and down the coast from Albany all the way up to Exmouth. We passed through the Safety Bay area and decided Perth had everything we longed for. Lots of wind, fantastic coastline, work, cheap houses (back then), nice people, good climate, relaxed atmosphere; all the things that make a nice lifestyle.

We made the move a couple of years ago now and fair dinkum it was the best thing we ever did. Didn’t know a soul and have no family here but made lots of really good (windsurfing friends) and we are extremely happy. I decided not to chase the big bucks and opted for a job close to home that allows me to go sailing every day there is wind. I have sailed more in the last two seasons than in 6 years in Sydney, In summer I am on the water every single day. Does wonders for your gybes. Heaps of variety in conditions over here. Flat water freestyle, bump & jump and blasting are the go generally after work during the summer but on the weekends a day trip up and down the coast will get you an awesome session in the waves. During winter there are waves breaking all over the place so you will become a rooster spraying wave nut in no time.

I can’t comment on other states, I am sure they are very good for windsurfing as well, but in my humble opinion if you love windsurfing, you will love Perth. Simple as that!!!!!!!!!
curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
WA, 1160 posts
10 Aug 2007 1:27pm
best capital city for windsurfing i think would be perth,

Best combo of windsurfing and life style i think Margaret river,

Best place for pure windsurfing, Marrawah area Tasmania.

and hardie is crazy gero is not the best place for wavesailing.
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
10 Aug 2007 1:40pm
quote:
Originally posted by curac

best capital city for windsurfing i think would be perth,

Best combo of windsurfing and life style i think Margaret river,

Best place for pure windsurfing, Marrawah area Tasmania.

and hardie is crazy gero is not the best place for wavesailing.



Let's debate this dear Curac, I agree that Gero doesn't have the best DTL waves necessarily, but you can't live and have a life in Gnaraloo, whereas in Gero you can. In Gero you get to wavesail from mid to late September through to April May, with daily temps from 25 to 40 degrees, water temp 20 to 24 degrees, sailing 3 to 5 days minimum per week for 7 to 8 months of the year, that's why for me gero is best!
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
10 Aug 2007 3:30pm
Cheers 247,

Luckily for me my missus actually introduced me to windsurfing so that side of things won't take any convincing; it is probably the remoteness of the place that would put her off cos she likes travelling, but seeing as that is a problem with Oz full stop (we are used to being able to pop to europe for the weekend (2hrs?) for about $100-$150 return) it probably won't take much once I have convinced her to stay

Deffo gonna have to pop over and see how good it is later in the year

And guys, no fighting over territory please
curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
WA, 1160 posts
10 Aug 2007 3:50pm
quote:
Originally posted by hardie


Let's debate this dear Curac, I agree that Gero doesn't have the best DTL waves necessarily, but you can't live and have a life in Gnaraloo, whereas in Gero you can. In Gero you get to wavesail from mid to late September through to April May, with daily temps from 25 to 40 degrees, water temp 20 to 24 degrees, sailing 3 to 5 days minimum per week for 7 to 8 months of the year, that's why for me gero is best!



yeah but there is one thing that gero is missing that is required for wavesailing.. waves. heh sure it's got some waves but even if we stick to WA surely Lanclin would be better, and go further south and Margaret river is even better still. i haven't spent a full winter in MR but looking at the observations and hearing what some people say it's seems to be a sweet place for wavesailing in winter too..
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
10 Aug 2007 4:03pm
yeah but there is one thing that gero is missing that is required for wavesailing.. waves. Well that's a bull**** statement for starters heh sure it's got some waves but even if we stick to WA surely Lanclin would be better for what?, Wave height would be the only thing it's better for and go further south and Margaret river is even better still. Better in what way? Yes you get huges waves regularly But you don'get the regular winds and warm weather and water temp that Gero gets i haven't spent a full winter in MR but looking at the observations and hearing what some people say it's seems to be a sweet place for wavesailing in winter too.Well I've spent lot's of time in MR in winter and no it isn't a very good place for wave sailing at all, quite schit really. Yes you get some great surfing in winter, with huge swells and NO WIND, but most winds in winter are on-shore

From What I can gather you are into huge waves, and no gero is not a huge wave spot!! But for the ave punter, you get a much better bang for your buck than any other town or city in Australia. Only Gnaraloo is better, but that is a desert schithole, not a town or city.

And BTW I'm not schitty or angry just like having a good debate
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