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MavericK040
MavericK040
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24 Nov 2007 11:14pm
Ive been jumpin over chop lately and loving it ,
just wondering if there is a technique or a tip i can use to try and get bigger and longer airtime ,
and maybe start bustin out sum moves in the air lol
furthermore , what moves can i do from little bits of air , i know it would be limited but it would be nice to tell my mates that i landed a ( insert kool trick here ) the other day

Cheers
Mav
goodbrewster
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24 Nov 2007 11:19pm
Just keep in mind that this is hard on the knees and ankles.
MavericK040
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24 Nov 2007 11:20pm
Thats ok im only 19
decrepit
decrepit
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24 Nov 2007 11:25pm
MavericK040 said...

Thats ok im only 19



Not sure that's good logic, you could end up spending the next 60 odd years an invalid, whereas me at 62 only has to think about the next 20 or so.
Mark _australia
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24 Nov 2007 11:26pm
goodbrewster said...

Just keep in mind that this is hard on the knees and ankles.


bvgger me, not as hard as what most windsurfers will eventully do, landing 20 footers or bouncing over chop at 35kn !!!!!!!


Main tip is weight on back foot *just* before the ramp (to sink the tail a bit) then lift the rail so the chop hits underneath the board. When in the air keep windward rail up a bit... but mainly pull back leg up under your bum and slightly to windward. That levels board off and makes it look higher but more importantly makes the board land lightly downwind (broad reach) so it will stay on the plane and reduce spinout. Positive also is it gets you steering the board in the air and is sorta precursor to a flatwater forward!
MavericK040
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24 Nov 2007 11:38pm
decrepit said...

MavericK040 said...

Thats ok im only 19



Not sure that's good logic, you could end up spending the next 60 odd years an invalid, whereas me at 62 only has to think about the next 20 or so.


True, if you think about it that way it doesnt sound good
but theres far more dangerous things to do when sailing so i think i will be right.
thanks for the concern fellas
decrepit
decrepit
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24 Nov 2007 11:54pm
[<<<<
but theres far more dangerous things to do when sailing so i think i will be right.
>>>>>>>>


That's a better attitude, as Mark say's there's much more dangerous things to come.
It's a matter of managing risk, and achieving a balance between wrapping yourself up in cotton-wool (giving you no life at all,) and doing very high risk/damaging things, stuffing your body up while still young.

MavericK040
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25 Nov 2007 12:10am
Yes thats true too ,
personally i dont like to get hurt so i generally dont try things i dont think im ready for.
i guess im somewhere in the middle of the cotton wool wrap and the " i sleep on a bed of nails because its fun " kinda fella.

Anyways , whats a flat water forward? sounds fun
NotWal
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25 Nov 2007 1:16am
Tricks?... The old school garden variety jump gybe is a good one. Its an upwind chop hop with extreme prejudice. The other jumpy spinny tricks require a different kind of pop.
Gestalt
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25 Nov 2007 1:25am
after watching the guys around these parts do all that and more i don't really believe it's about height. unless you want to do a backloop or a big tabletop.

it's all about technique. to be honest the higher you try to jump the less chance i reckon you have of pulling off most of the tricks.

if you want to do slidey type things something i was really interested to hear lately was the obvious point that the board needs to slide and jumping too high just makes it all harder.

forwards don't need any height either really. i have seen them done on speed courses in dead flat water.

by all means try and go big off chop. it's heaps of fun. but also don't forget freestyle stuff which can look awesome on flat water too.

i guess the point is there really is no limit to what can be done with small airs.

Sailhack
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25 Nov 2007 12:55pm
MavericK040 said...

Ive been jumpin over chop lately and loving it ,
just wondering if there is a technique or a tip i can use to try and get bigger and longer airtime ,
and maybe start bustin out sum moves in the air lol
furthermore , what moves can i do from little bits of air , i know it would be limited but it would be nice to tell my mates that i landed a ( insert kool trick here ) the other day

Cheers
Mav



I'm in the same basket as you. Been enjoying flat'n'fast, and some chop.....now keen to try some air! Just need WIND now?!?
decrepit
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25 Nov 2007 8:33pm
MavericK040 said...

>>>

Anyways , whats a flat water forward? sounds fun


Forward "loop" off of chop, I've used the quotation marks, because it's more of a roll than a loop, the rig goes off to the side and is fairly horizontal during the flip.
Haircut
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25 Nov 2007 9:45pm
MavericK040 said...

Thats ok im only 19



do it now while you can still enjoy it
Mr. No-one
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25 Nov 2007 9:48pm
A good starting point for me was donkey kicks,safe and easy. As I jumped higher with more verticalness(?) they turned into table tops which then became one handed table tops (or christ air). I really want to try a table top forward but finding it hard to go for it. One handed jumps are good for increasing your confidence which can then become rail or fin grabs.
goodbrewster
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26 Nov 2007 12:12am
As to the knee warning, I was involved with a 21 year old a week or so ago in an active sport. In the locker room he told me about his knee injury. Of course he wasn't windsurfing and was using a motorized vehicle when he was injured. However, we went out and were warming up for a bit. Another group of competitors joined us, and he headed for the locker room. A guy wanted to scrimmage and since our 21 year old could even up the sides asked me if he was going to play. I went into the locker room and he was undressing. It just was too much for him. I can't see how he wasn't finished in serious athletics for the rest of his life. You are more prone to having these kinds of injuries at your age IMHO. However, I didn't break a bone until well in my 20's and have been breaking more joints since I turned 50 than in all the years before.
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