Easy Waterstart

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Aussiex
Aussiex
QLD
261 posts
QLD, 261 posts
30 Jan 2012 4:48pm
Hey Guys,
Just a quick question, You know that waterstart thing that floats the clew so your sail doesn't sink?
Is that worth it?
Does it work well?
does it help?
d1
d1
WA
304 posts
d1 d1
WA, 304 posts
30 Jan 2012 3:05pm
Is that the small pool noodle wrapped around the end of the boom? Sometimes the clew ends up on the surface, but the mast tip points almost straight down - guess one could stick another pool noodle around the top of the mast?

I've never used one, but it looks like it could save a few seconds of time. Basically the time it takes to shove the back of the board under the boom in order to re-float the sail


Obelix
Obelix
WA
1173 posts
WA, 1173 posts
30 Jan 2012 3:44pm
I built one while learning and it was not of much use.
Always in the way when extending the boom or fitting the outhaul, so it was quickly discarded.

Instead, I suggest a floatation vest. It aids to your floatation, and reduces your efforts to push the sail up initially.
The sail should po put easily if in the right position.
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
30 Jan 2012 3:47pm
Works a treat I didn't purchase the actual one, but used a modified pool noodle, strapped around clew end. Had it slotted into a small clothh pocket with velcro straps to get it on and off easy.
The latest from Clark Rubber, have a pool noodle with a hole down the centre. Slides on the arms of a boom real easy. Use this for biggg sails at start of season when the arms and physical isn't that flash.
Aussiex
Aussiex
QLD
261 posts
QLD, 261 posts
30 Jan 2012 6:02pm
Thanks guys, i will just make myself one. I got myself a vest already. And once i get a 400 mast that is smaller and lighter then the one i got, it should become a lot easier. I just got to find one i can afford (sucks being poor).
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
30 Jan 2012 7:35pm
I'm all outta gear man!

Ok the trick to 'flying' a sail, easily, before you waterstart is:

1. Lift it out of the water at the top of the mast/mast tip. Always. It's easy-peasy up there.

2. Try to make sure the mast side of the sail is on the windward/windy side, ie it's pointing the right way.

If not it is often easier to swim it around to the other side of the board, get if flying (see #1), and flip it before you water start.

Sometimes it is possible to get it flying the wrong way and it'll flip all of a sudden for you. Easy to handle when you're at the top of the mast, eh?

Once you get the top of the sail out of the water the rest often pulls itself out too.

3. Waterstart slowly and carefully, else you'll be back in the water all over again. Stitch in time... yada yada.

Exceptions: If the rig ends up with the mast pointing straight down... too bad. You're gonna get a little tired. Getting fit can be a side effect of windsurfing.

Just remember rule #1, and the rest will fall into place anyway.
terminal
terminal
1421 posts
1421 posts
30 Jan 2012 6:39pm
I tried a Naish Carbon boom years ago and the clew end was so beefed up that it was heavy enough to make waterstarting more difficult, so if you have a boom with a heavy clew end it would be useful then to add some floatation.

ginger pom
ginger pom
VIC
1746 posts
VIC, 1746 posts
31 Jan 2012 8:08am
Swimming the sail across the water will make the clew float up much more than any buoyancy device... 5m of sail area being moved through water will tend to take the path of the least resistance... which is flat on the water

Ie don't lift the sail until the clew is on the surface, just take it for a swim. Often you don't have to swim that far - two good leg kicks and a tug is usually enough to get the clew to the surface - it only has to be moving relative to the water which is going downwind - then AND ONLY THEN another kick and throw it over your shoulder..
Aussiex
Aussiex
QLD
261 posts
QLD, 261 posts
31 Jan 2012 5:08pm
Thanks heaps guys.
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
1 Feb 2012 12:19am
Noodle doodles, pftt.

Push tail of board under boom......instant liftage

If there is a gap cos you have a high boom, then hold on to back strap and use your arm as an extension of the board.

Easy peasey lemon squeezy
GusTee
GusTee
NSW
266 posts
NSW, 266 posts
2 Feb 2012 9:59am
I have one. I find that it helps when starting out, especially with large cammed sails.

As you progress and get better at the techniques outlined above, ie using the tail of board, swimming the mast, it becomes redundant. So one less thing to carry, setup and pack up.
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