If you can chop hop you are technically equipped to tackle it
Statistically, rigging up is more dangerous than doing a forward
Many of the pro sailors in Britain learned to forward before they could carve gybe
It is by far the coolest looking windsurfing move
The whole move can be learned in a day

forwards one way
backwards the other
it's what god intended
don't fight it.

yeah im psyching myself up for this summer
i WILL do it
there is a really good article on www.boardseekermag.com
check it out
i just need to sail with people who wanna try them and people who can do them

Yo Greenleader,
The highly-elevated stalled forward (end over preferred) is always a crowd-pleaser.
Break out the chips and beer.

This type of looper plays a dicey game of chance.
The gamble... how long can the rotation be delayed at the apex of the jump?
If the timing is off, the carbon mast sticks in and snaps like a carrot.

The longer the stall, the cooler the move.
Stylin on Cloud 9.

Heya Greenroom. It was the Remko De Weirdo "loop special extra" on the "7 sons of freestyle" dvd that helped me the most. I was given a loaner of this DVD by your wind associate Kaos. Definately worth watching if you haven't already done so.

The other thing that helped alot was realising that all the boats going up and down the broadwater on a northerly wind, actually make the perfect waves that you can hit straight on. I spent the whole day chasing boats.

Goiters are gay unless you land back on the wave, Taka off the lip is the gay way to try a Goiter!

I have been doing forwards one way for a long time and couldn't do them the other way. I learnt a few years ago and this is how I did it. I stook on beach and imagined the rotation in my head. Focusing on turning my head back and looking back at the beach when I sheeted in. I actually did the action. Then I waited in the water until I saw a wave coming went into it and did the action that I practised on the beach. I landed the first one on my feet. During that day, I tried about 20 and made about 5 but landed on my back and waterstarted out of most.

PS The real move is the one handed carve gybe, draging your hand in the water.

are you talking about an air chacho, or i think they call it a fruit loop also ..
if you are that is a sick move, kauli seadi does some big ones. and i think they were invented by ricardo

Hey Curac, air chachos, that's them!

yeah, they look great hey!

Friday is looking lurvelee for wind

Hey Mark,

I can tell you that I have never tried a Taka of the lip as I think they are an easy way out of going for Goiters, they look gay compared to a real Goiter(Kalama's). Goiter count for me; none onto wave, none landing behind wave.

My stats at any manouvre should have no bearing into weather I think they look gay or not. Many tricks I see that I have never tried may be hardcore in practise but if I think they look sh!t I won't do them.

BTW. I can land back on the wave onto my back though. I have never actually sailed away from one yet. How many have you gone 4

Mcglashons DONKEY KICKS is where it's at....yeah!

" if you had any idea you would no that a taka is harder to land back on the wave than a goiter is!!!"

Lucky for me, I find them both so piss-easy that I can no longer tell which one is harder.

Yeah good one jase(qwerty)

Yousurf, I know who you are and have seen you sail. You should go in some comps, I think you would kick a$$. I agree with the Taka thing, they do look gay

I would like to see luke.johnston do a one handed gybe as good as you do

Thanks Whyner I don't know who you are?

I have been practising the one handed gybe and it does take skill. I'm not talking just letting go one hand but actually dragging the hand in the water for at least 1 second. I can now sail straight one handed for at least 3-4 seconds (no easy feat by the way). How many of you can actually do this? Not many if any!

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Originally posted by garynoel


Just read the article in the boarders mag on forward loops.

Apart from sheeting in can the 'loopers' here give any more tips? I'm going to have a crack (wrong word maybe) at forwards this weekend and could do with all the help you can give.

Gaz

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Hi Gary. I'm definately no expert as I have just got the hang of them myself, and i'm only getting them in one direction and haven't landed one on the board yet. Most are back slappers.

This stuff helped me alot.

1.
Practice on the beach just with the sail. Move the boom up to between nipple and shoulder height. Hang on as if you were sailing cross wind (so the sail is full of wind when you do this), put your front hand right next to your front harness line, put your back hand about 60 cm further back down the boom so you have about a 1 metre or more wide grip. Put your front foot next to the bottom of the mast. Push the rig forward and across your body, almost as if you're trying to point the tip of the mast onto the wind, not down wind. As you do this, lean onto your front foot and roll you body around with the sail as it pulls you around. Sheet in with your back hand as if you are tring to touch your forehead with your back hand (you won't but it will get close). You end up basically doing a judo roll across the surface of the sand and to a back spin almost all the way around to waterstart position. This is painless and gives you a close feel for what goes on

2.
Once you can do this, try it on the water by doing a really tight gybe when you are only just on the plane. Once you get halfway through the gybe, with both feet in straps, do exactly the same as you did on the beach (throwing mast tip towards the outside of the turn). Don't try to jump the board, just let the sail pull you around in slow motion. Your feet will come out of the straps and you'll go around the front across the surface of the water. If you've got a board shorter than 270cm don't worry, you'll miss hitting anything. Once again after a few attempts you'll almost end up in the waterstart position.

3.
Try the whole thing after doing a little jump (15cm chop even) but try to do it off chop that you can hit relatively face on when you are sailing slightly down wind. Doing this seems to make a huge difference between ending up going around, or just catapulting onto your side. Get onto the plane, but you don't need to be going very fast. Just enough so you can be standing upright and not hanging outwards (as if you were about to enter a gybe). Chophop (feet in straps), do all the things you practiced on the beach including rolling your body, plus try and pull legs up to bum. If your like me, right after jumping I can see the nose of the board skim across the surface of the water, then i tend to look through the sail panel for the rest of the action until i land. Your first few goes you probably won't pull your feet up to your bum enough, but most times you will still rotate board and all surprisingly.

After this, i think its just a case of tweaking the whole thing.

I know this sounds cliche', but you will get a sore back, I have. I got a block of closed cell soft foam i shove under my rashy, then put the waste harness on. This seems to keep everything in place and cushions the slap somewhat. Back of the head seems to cop it as well, but not as bad as between the shoulderblades. While learning, it seems finding chop downwind (if at all possible) is the key to better landings. Taking off into the wind appears to require having to jump higher and spinning faster, and bigger back slaps if you get around. I've also had the gear get ripped out of my hand a few times when I tried jumping into the wind too much.

Hope you get something out of it. It took me a long time to get this far coz i wanted to try to learn it safely. If you got thaballz you could probably do the "just go for it" technique and skip some of these steps

Anyway, I think I take the award for longest post in history.

H

Thanks Haircut,

Some really good information there. Not long winded at all. I got nervous just reading it. Im more worried about damaging my sails than my teeth.

I must admit I'm more scared of trying it on the beach but I do understand what you mean.

Just one more thing, I assume you unhook before going for the manoeuvre?

Gonna go for it this weekend

Thanks again

Gaz

Once you do a forward you will kick yourself in the nuts numerours times as they are so easy to do. To do them clean everytime, stalled etc takes some time but the basic forward is piss. Dont think, just do it. Jump downwind, look back, pull your back hand in, tuck your legs and hold on. Also if your feet come out of the straps dont bail (as bailing really hurts sometimes), hold on as you should land in a waterstart position ready to sail away(if you are holding onto the boom at least you know your rig is). Also keep your eyes CLOSED as you will bail if you leave them open.