Fomula Windsurfer VS Racing Trimaran

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FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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25 May 2006 8:10pm
Hey guys not sure if this has already been posted but
just incase its not check it out...

www.dailymotion.com/video/49742
Haircut 4000
Haircut 4000
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25 May 2006 8:25pm
i tink it might be an incomplete link sir
Gestalt
Gestalt
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25 May 2006 10:18pm
formula mmmm...... nurse......no 3's have occurred.................

no white caps, max speed, gotta love formula.....

CJW
CJW
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25 May 2006 11:10pm
Cool video, just amazing how fast those big tri's really are.
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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26 May 2006 11:34am
I dont think that the link is broken, it seems to work for me
leepasty
leepasty
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26 May 2006 9:50am
would say 15knts of wind as the tri is reefed, looks like they are doing about 20knts. pretty cool, have you seen any vids of the hobie tri-foiler a crazy hydro foil tri with 2 windsurf type sails and a cockpit where you have to wear a mask. sailed one once and reached 27knts in 15knts wind. absolutely crazy, needs to be super flat water though or you stack it big time.
would love to be on that big tri in some big sea boing 30knts- what a blast. if i had 3 mil would prob spend it on something much better though!!! warm water waves and 25knts every day would do for the rest of my life
FormulaBoy
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26 May 2006 3:11pm
Yeah i know that the tri is reefed but still shows just how
fast a little windsurfer can be in such light wind. Just think
about how cool it would be to pull up next to scandia on the
bay then just blast past it.
elmo
elmo
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26 May 2006 4:13pm
check this puppy out, watch the vid
www.hobie.com/sail/

Alby
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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26 May 2006 7:29pm
Geez that hobie video is pretty narly, as an occasional tornado with
spiniker cat sailer that thing would clearly whoop the ass of the
tornado, imaging that hobie with some spinikers :)
Jethrow
Jethrow
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26 May 2006 7:57pm
I know that this is a little off topic but when I click on the hobie links for the movie I just get a screen full of random text. I've had this happen before and I'm sure it's just a setting thing but I can't figure it out. Is there a techo out there that has some hints? Thanks...
decrepit
decrepit
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26 May 2006 6:20pm
junk IE get a decent browser, try firefox
CJW
CJW
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CJW CJW
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26 May 2006 9:59pm
Did you try right clicking and "save target as" ?
AUS154 Chris
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27 May 2006 5:56am
I heard another name for the tri-foiler is the cheese-grater, cos thats what happens when you stack it.
Jethrow
Jethrow
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27 May 2006 7:59am
I've been using firefox but still get the text.
lookkc
lookkc
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27 May 2006 8:30am
try updating your media player
Haircut
Haircut
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27 May 2006 8:33am
awesome! why did they stop production? It wouldn't surprise me if it was endangering everyone else on the water LOL Imagine dredging away on you windsurfer and seeing one of those coming straight at you at 85k - ready to dice you up!
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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27 May 2006 5:00pm
If your using firefox you need to right click the link to the
video and then click save link as... then it will come up as
a file to download.
decrepit
decrepit
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27 May 2006 3:54pm
quote:
Originally posted by Jethrow

I've been using firefox but still get the text.


Not sure what's happening then, mine plays automatically as soon as the page loads. Are you using the latest version? 1.5 I think it's at now.
greenleader
greenleader
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27 May 2006 6:53pm
the future looks bright!

so many avenues.
AUS154 Chris
AUS154 Chris
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28 May 2006 5:49am
Looks like the video is sped-up a bit. Not sure of the v-max but I think half decent windurf rig will overtake it. Not saying it ain't impressive. Got an idea that moth costs an arm+leg
Haircut
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28 May 2006 7:08am
thats awesome too what happens when u hit a plastic shopping bag?
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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28 May 2006 1:37pm
Yeh the new moth looks pretty fun, but i wonder how it goes upwind because i doubt they will have enough speed to get off the foils working well if at all. It reminds me of the rush foilboard windsurfer, theres a couple of vids of it in action on this website.
www.neilprydemaui.com/itemDetails.php?id=48

looks like it would be hell fun just like windsurfing with suspension
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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28 May 2006 2:15pm
Sorry about the incoherent typing before, what i ment to say was i wonder if it will be able to get enough speed out of the sail upwind to make the foils to work properly or weather it will just sit in the water and go like a slug :( also i was watching beond tomorrow the a couple of months ago and someone has also invented a hydofoil flatwater kayak. Its single man and can go faster than a four man.
video can be found here: www.foilkayak.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5&Itemid=2
Gestalt
Gestalt
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28 May 2006 2:33pm
padi has a couple of the rush hydrofoil fins,

i had a look at them once when we went sailing together. they are very heavy and long, from memory one was 90cm, i'm not sure if he has had a chance to try them out yet?

we were wondering whether it would be possible to beach start or not.
Chris 249
Chris 249
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28 May 2006 6:04pm
Formulaboy, the Moth DOES get on the foils upwind and goes phreakin' fast. Rohan(world champ in Moths) reckons he is as quick as the Formula boards in Melbourne upwind (but I have not heard the FW boys confirm it) and about 49er pace all-round in a breeze. It is only slow under 7-8 knots of wind, when it drops off the wind and is only Laser/Laser Radial pace.

The Trifoiler was apparently quick at times, but some people felt that it was a bit boring to sail (it went fast but with little sensation) and it was a complete dog in light winds and therefore slow all-round - there are 3 foiler tris available and all of them are rated on handicap about as fast as a Hobie 16, way way slower than a Tornado or Taipan.
FormulaBoy
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28 May 2006 6:33pm
Its good to hear that the moths are quick all around then, I would like to see one in action down on the bay, however i think that your theory on the trifoiler being the same as the handicap of a hobie 16 might not be correct because your handicap is set of your yardstick and your yardstick rating is set by racing around a standard set course in an approximate wind speed of 15knts with no other varibles like tide.
Chris 249
Chris 249
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28 May 2006 10:04pm
(a) it's not a "theory" about the trifoiler handicap, it's fact.

http://www.ussailing.org/portsmouth/tables06/tables06mh.htm

(b) no, Portsmouth yardsticks from the US (or UK, nor Australia AFAIK) are NOT set like you say. In fact the US scheme gives different handicaps for 4 different windstrengths, and has information about performance over 6 different windstrengths so handicappers can adjust for conditions.
FormulaBoy
FormulaBoy
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29 May 2006 5:00pm
In the land of OZ handicap is a personal thing and everyone has their own handicap rating dependent on race history and any improvement. Naturally everone starts on handicap of 1.0 which is the same as the Yardstick. The more you race the closer you get to your handicap.

The link provides some interesting info which of course is different from our local OZ yardstick system. Is the DPN an average ? What is the formula ?
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