Footstraps and planing - help required

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Juzz
Juzz
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19 Feb 2007 4:32pm
I a beginner (have been learning for the past 3 months) and am able to get hooked in and planing. My problem lies in getting into the straps. I will be planning and as soon as i attempt to get in i loose all speed. I have been trawling through the posts and have found various thoughts on what foot first - without bringing up that dicussion again, can i have some tips on why i would be loosing speed. I try and keep the weight off the back foot so i dont sink the board but i am still having trouble.

When i am planning i am going pretty fast (well it feels fast anyway)and i am fighting to keep the board in a straight line - am i going to fast to try and go for the straps...should i be going earlier?

Also can someone explain 'pumping onto the plane'- it is as it sounds, and when you are nearly there you pump the sail as if you were repositioning the batons?

any help would be greatly appreciated
bubs
bubs
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19 Feb 2007 4:21pm
I get into the straps as soon as i can. Get up, hook in and into the straps within a couple of seconds. I do this because i find it very dificult to find the straps when its choppy and quite often slip off or get catepulted trying to get into them.

Also, i go front foot first to get on the plane earlier.

bubs
AUS-057
AUS-057
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19 Feb 2007 4:08pm
I always jump in front first very quickly followed by the back foot. When getting into the straps its very important to hang your weight off the boom. This unloads your feet so that when they do get into the straps you are not unintentionally turning the board.

David
aus005
aus005
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19 Feb 2007 7:02pm
lay off hooked in front foot first try to watch where you are going not at your feet light feet not elephant feet
Sailhack
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19 Feb 2007 7:08pm
Same happenned to me, try going slightly downwind, sheet-out and get your front foot in. I found that I kept turning upwind and "dunking" myself as the power dropped off...

Once you're in the straps and planing, you'll find it alot more stable and you'll know why you took up the sport!!!
Sailhack
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19 Feb 2007 7:28pm
Ooooooohhh.......Got a Red Star
JESUS
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19 Feb 2007 5:30pm
As you move your feet back into the straps you are probably leaning the mast towards the tail therefore as you move your feet back move the mast towards the nose of the board at the same time. Front foot in first then back then hook in.
garynoel
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19 Feb 2007 5:48pm

Jesus!
Juzz
Juzz
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20 Feb 2007 9:52am
I can definetly relate to the 'dunking' that you mention sailhack. When i hook in, point the toes and lean out i do fall back too far and have to stand back up...it is only when i am flying than i can really lean back but then it is not that controlled as i am just trying to stay on.

So i definetly think i am dropping the mast back and turning upwind...loosing all speed...that would also explain why the rail diggs in so far!

ok so i have some things to look at...now can someone explain the 'pumping onto the plane' question
nebbian
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20 Feb 2007 9:06am
quote:
Originally posted by Juzz
So i definetly think i am dropping the mast back and turning upwind...loosing all speed...that would also explain why the rail diggs in so far!



There's another possibility -- digging the rail in!!

When you're going for the straps, remember to point your toes. Keep your weight on the balls of your feet, not the heels. The aim is to keep the board flat, so neither rail digs in. If you stomp your new front foot in, the windward rail will sink, the board will turn into the wind in the blink of an eye, and off you tumble.

When learning the straps, consciously try to sink the leeward rail, this counters the tendency to turn into wind.
md74
md74
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20 Feb 2007 10:26am
heres 1 technique, visulise it before hitting the water, picture yourself in your mind doing what you need to do, if you cant nail it in your head, its not going to work on the water!

Once you have it mentally, just look ahead, keep the balance undisturbed on the board, and slip the foot in, I generally put the front foot in just as I feel its about to get planing, once it is planing the back foot goes in, the most important thing I think, is just let the board continue doing what its doing, so no unbalanced movements, distribute weight so you can unweight the front foot.

The more you think about it, the higher the chance of muffing it.
decrepit
decrepit
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20 Feb 2007 8:35pm
quote:
Originally posted by Juzz

..now can someone explain the 'pumping onto the plane' question



Not sure what you mean by "repositioning the battens" If you mean a quick tug on the boom to rotate the sail, yes sort of.

But the tug/pump has to be in the right direction, it's sort of a scooping action.
If you're only just off the plane a but of a wiggle with the back hand will do the job.
If you're in the straps you can also pump the fin at the same time
makesurf
makesurf
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22 Feb 2007 8:27pm
>>can i have some tips on why i would be loosing speed.

When you are in the straps?
You may be pushing the board down on the edge. Concentrate on using the straps to tilt the board to bring the windward side up, especially with the back foot. The flatter the board is on the water, the better it will plane.
jord070
jord070
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22 Feb 2007 10:55pm
juzz, if you are roudning up into the wind and loosing speed liek i was, make sure that your foot in flat on the board and pushing down like and acelorator on a car, but if your not rounding up, try move your mast track all the way back, and make sure you dont hesitate when you put your feet in just shuve it in and realy deticate to the sail, also try mooveing all staps to the most forward position on board, all theses little things help greatly and once you are in straps you will be hooked
Juzz
Juzz
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23 Feb 2007 9:27am
makesurf I get in the straps either too early when i am not going fast enough so i just sink or i go for them too late when i am going too fast. i need that happy medium.

Thanks for all the tips. I need some decent wind so i can practice and utilise some of them. Hopefully the coming days will be kinder to me, the past week has been nothing but frustrating.

...and yeah decrepit..thats what i meant rolling the sail.
Juzz
Juzz
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2 Mar 2007 10:09am
WOOOOHOOO - Got in harness, straps and was planing last night. I had so much more control once i was in the straps. Was a good feeling, it actually happened a lot easier than expected as i knew what to avoid doing.

Thanks for the tip guys.

......and now...onto learning to waterstart and gybe
Sailhack
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2 Mar 2007 5:58pm
quote:
Originally posted by Juzz

WOOOOHOOO - Got in harness, straps and was planing last night. I had so much more control once i was in the straps. Was a good feeling, it actually happened a lot easier than expected as i knew what to avoid doing.

Thanks for the tip guys.

......and now...onto learning to waterstart and gybe



Congrats Juzz,

I know the feeling, I was at the same stage as you only a few months back, I was enjoying it before then, now I'm down-right obsessed!!!

Good luck with the w-starts and gybes, this forum's a great help for beginners like us...
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