Freesail now a kitesurfing mag

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curac
curac
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26 Apr 2004 10:46pm
GOD DAMN IT.. i don't hate kitesurfing or anything.. i just wish that freesail was more windsurfing. there are a few kite surfing mags in stores.. but only very few windsurfing.
freesail could oh at least put a windsurfer pic someplace on the cover but nothing... GRRRRRR


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Simon
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27 Apr 2004 7:58am
Hi Curac,
I am sure Micheal(the editor of Freesail) would love to have two magazines, one for each sport, but the reality of the country we live in is that there are simply not enough people to buy them. As it is, Freesail has come on leaps and bounds in the last two years, and it is almost entirly a one man band.




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nutbag
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27 Apr 2004 8:03am
Freesail (FreeKITE?) has been a boring read for ages. I used to get every issue, now I don't even bother looking in it at all.
From what I hear, most kiters don't bother getting it either because they have better mags to choose from, so Freesail have really shot themselves in the foot.
It rarely/never shows any support for local association competitions around the country, and only seems to reflect the interests of the industry players with the most money.

Do we want to know who is winning our national competitions and how they are doing, or which one of our young rippers is breaking into the pro scene and doing us all proud? Well no of course not, we'd rather read about some unknown kiter from some european place we've never heard of competing in another european place we've never heard of!

The UK mags seem pretty good. Just buy them.

RIP Freesail



hardman
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27 Apr 2004 8:15am
Curac,

I share your feelings on this one but I think there is a real dilemna here. I love windsurfing and have no problem at all with Kitesurfing, and I have friends that are kiters, but I want material that purely focusses on windsurfing which is my passion.

The dilemna is that as consumers we can always vote with our wallets, don't buy it and buy the British and American Magazines which are predominantly devoted to windsurfing, eg Boards, Windsurf etc. I buy those magazines because of their focus on Winsurfing. But is my consumer behaviour only reinforcing for Freesail to focus on Kiting

As Simon points out Australia is a small market, if we don't buy/support freesail as windsurfers, then what is the point of windsurf distributers advertising in it, and then what is Freesail's incentive in focussing on Windsuring. Kiting is new, and distributors want their product out there advertised, and Kiters want to read lot's about their new sport, so it would be stupid of Freesail not to focus on Kiting.

It's a dilemna, which I think we as windsurfers, such as myself, have probably contributed to the magazine focussing on Kiting I'm not sure what value there is in BLAMING Freesail, but at the same time I don't see any value in buying Freesail magazine.

There you go I can be serious! Particularly when I'm paid by Freesail to do so Yeh! they'd pay me to say "Don't But It"

Hardie SoftBoy
Simon
Simon
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27 Apr 2004 8:38am
Hi nutbag,
I once shared your views, but if you have read the last couple of issues, there is a really big improvement.
The lastest issues looks at the nationals, wave events, juniors etc. It is a long way from being perfect ,but is definetly on the right track. As for the UK mags, they are excellent, but have nothing to do with Aus, apart from the bi-annual Lets go to lano/Gerro/Gnarralloo travel article.
Give Freesail another chance, hey i'll even give you my copy.


Simon
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nutbag
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27 Apr 2004 9:04am
Well that is good to hear Simon. I hope that continues to be the case because there are a lot of good things going on throughout the local scene.

Hopefully it will steer back toward a predominantly windsurfing perspective, because as I said earlier the kiters I have spoken to don't bother with it either, so maybe the kiting content of the mag is not really helping sales that much.

OK, next time I am in a newsagency trying to quietly tear off the plastic cover of the FHM or RALPH special issue, I will take a look at Freesail with an open mind.


hardman
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8 May 2004 12:02pm
I thought I better put my money where my mouth was and buy it.

Verdict: Yes it's worth buying, lot's of local windsurfing info, and it's half the price of British mags. When your reading the Windsurfing stuff you completely forget there's kiting stuff in there.

Hardie SoftBoy
oj
oj
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11 May 2004 11:17am
I looked through freesail at the newsagency and put my money on a UK mag instead, it may have cost twice as much but you get 3 times more windsurfing than freesail, so I think the overseas mags are better value.
There must be a better cover photo than the one they used on the latest freesail?
sandoz
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11 May 2004 12:11pm
Most unfortunate and ironic is the fact that the majority of kiters cannot read.









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curac
curac
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11 May 2004 7:51pm
after hardman said that it was worth the buy.. i bought it..
seeing as away from home and have no equipment with me and the wind is up.. and well.. its a bit of touch and go.. mostly go.
while he has some good articles.. the kitesurfing completely outweighs the windsurfing. and as i don't give a **** about kiting that left me with about 10 pages to read.. while most mags don't take much time to read you can usually go through them a bunch of times and pick up the things you missed.. i have had the mag a day.. and i have read everything.. even stuff i didn't want too. heh

while i respect that this mag is suposedly close to a one man show.
it doesn't make up for pretty much abandoning you long time audience..

In the mag there was mention windsurfing needs exposure to the public again(thats not a quote its a gist of what was said a few times) its a funny thing to have printed in a mag that didn't have one picture of windsurfing on the cover..


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Justan
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12 May 2004 6:41pm
Hey Mr Curac.

Is it windy in Bowen at the moment? We had a reasonably good day here on monday but it was gusty and very southwest. Jeremy was out. We were supposed to have 20-30 on tuesday and 20 today. Not a breath of wind. Its getting cold too. Must have been about 22 degrees at most today. Something for you to look forward to when you get back hey!



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curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
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13 May 2004 8:41am
Bowen is not windy at the moment.. it was for the first 2 days i was here but its not anymore.. yay.. 22 degrees.. that will be fun going back down there to that after a week of 28 degrees and water that prolly isn't much lower.. i think i will fix my car and make another trip back up here during winter..

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yoyo
yoyo
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13 May 2004 9:23pm
it's worth a read. not bad at all and a lot more topical than those oversea rags.
Simon
Simon
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13 May 2004 11:40pm
And if i may blantantly give my school a plug, the mag has a great little feature on junior windsurfing down here in Safety Bay. The photo is Matthew, who is only 8.He's a ripper in the making.



Simon
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yoyo
yoyo
WA
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14 May 2004 3:06pm
Yeah, that was a great photo.. pity it was so small. You should send it to Hotsails and the board company whose product he was riding. In fact to anyone (TheWest ???) who can publise windsurfing. It's a "cool" photo and he is obviously having a blast. Let all those hundreds of grommets sitting around for a crappy set to come in know that there is something better to do. :-))
Kitehard
Kitehard
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14 May 2004 4:10pm
Hey you guys,

I surf, Kite and wavesail from time to time and am getting back into wave sailing this season, and want to throw my unbiased 2 cents worth in. Freesail is a good mag that has had to move with the times. Many of the windsurfers from the east coast gave up windsurfing for the option of kiting because the winds bites more often than not on the east coast and if there is wind, then there's no swell.

Many windsurfers on the west coast now do both sports but probably still favour windsurfing due to excellent windsurfing conditions. So it is probable that Michael has now had to change the focus of Freesail to cater for the old and new readers of both sports.

Many kiters are unhappy with Kiteboarder mag and as such look forward to reading the latest in Freesail. As a kiter I still enjoy reading about the wavesailing articles in Freesail.

The biggest problem is the cost to put the mag together. The money comes from shops, distributors and other advertisers so if windsurfing took a bit of a downturn in advertising then it would have been difficult to keep the magazine going without the support of the kite industry wanting to advertise.

If you want more articles on the local happenings, then you have to write them and send in some pics along with the story as I have done on many occasions. Maybe we need to just halve the magazine and have the front half for windsurfing and the 2nd half for kitesurfing. That way we get even parts of both. Both Kiters and Sailboarders would like Mike to split the mag into two seperate mags, but the money isn't there from either circulation or advertising to warrant the cost and the additional manpower to produce two mags.

As for the Euro/Brit mags like windsurf, sheeiit, half the mag is bloody advertising of friggin wetties and the likes. I want stories of travel and comps to be entertained.

We all need to support Mike as he is a one man show, pretty much, by buying the products, encouraging advertisers, and submitting articles, it's only with this help that Freesail will get bigger and better for all involved. Who knows maybe one day it will even split off into two seperate mags!

Just a few thoughts.
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