Gaining RYA Instructor Qualifications in Australia

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sean_
sean_
VIC
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VIC, 8 posts
22 Mar 2006 12:17pm
G'day fellas,

I'm looking at doing a year or two overseas instructing windsurfing (and kitesurfing possibly as well) in the near future and I'm really having problems finding a provider for RYA instructor qualifications. Due to pretty much all of the windsurfing centres overseas being RYA-accredited and wanting their instructors to be.. does this simply mean I'm going to have to travel overseas?

I know Simon at GoWindSurfing offers YA (Yachting Aus) instructor courses but from what I have heard most companies will not hire instructors with this award. The only possible way to gain an RYA instructors award appears to be to pay huge amounts of money for month long courses overseas, or with Flying Fish (who is equally as expensive).

Any ideas guys?
kitingkook
kitingkook
NSW
109 posts
NSW, 109 posts
22 Mar 2006 6:15pm
Had the same problem when i looked at doing work OS even though ive got my full austrlian instructor certificate and the courses are exactly the same. AYF aussie course is based on the RYA course. You will need to get it done at one of the training centres like flying fish in sydney or theres a british group that do courses from mooloolaba in se queensland, cant think of their name but they advertise in most UK mags. These guys will train you for the resorts and then be able to place you there however there very expensive and youve got to spend a few weeks with a bunch of poms
Hope this helps
Simon
Simon
WA
275 posts
WA, 275 posts
24 Mar 2006 2:25am
Hi Sean,

The situation at the moment in Australia in regrads to YA and RYA qualifications is this.

There are only two RYA centres in Australia, being Flying Fish in Sydney and UKSA in Queensland. They only offer extended courses (4-6 weeks long ) and so are very expensive. The RYA will not allow any Australian schools to become RYA due to some pretty stupid policies, so there will not be much change there for a while.
In the mean time, if you do a YA Instructor course(we should be doing one next spring in Safety Bay) then when you arrive in the UK you can have a one day assement by an RYA trainer to convert .
The other option is to go to the UK and do the course there. There are plenty of centres offering them, and once you have them you will have no problem geting a job in the med etc. Mark Warner employ over 1000 temp staff each summer season so unless you are a complete muppet you get a job.

check out

www.braylake.com
These guys run heaps of instructor courses, and also wrote the new Fast Forward scheme.

Good luck,


Simon Cunningham

Go Windsurfing
sean_
sean_
VIC
8 posts
VIC, 8 posts
24 Mar 2006 12:09pm
Simon,

Thanks, that really cleared up a very confusing issue.

Just two more questions to make everything crystal clear:

1. Which Windsurfing Instructor level is generally required by overseas employers? Braylake offers the RYA Start, RYA FastForward and the RYA Level 4/5 Instructor awards and I am unsure which is generally required?

2. If I completed a YA Windsurfing Instructor course (as you offer), what RYA level will that give me if I undergo the assessment in the UK?

Thanks,
-sean.
Simon
Simon
WA
275 posts
WA, 275 posts
24 Mar 2006 9:26pm
Hi Sean,

You have no choice but to do the first level (start windsurfing) and then build up your hours. I think , once you have approx 100 hours logged you can move up to Fast Forward and then another 100 hours the Advanced(level 4/5) .Each time you upgrade you have to attend a week long course, which are well worth it.
When you first apply for a job, the level 1 instructor will secure you a place, and most employers will then pay for your upgrade over the season. The higher the qulification, the better the location you get sent to. Remember , some of the resorts in the med rarely get wind over 12 knots, so you get quite frustrated if you want to sail heaps. My first season was on an island called Paxos. Amazing place, really friendly, beutiful beaches but no wind .Ever!!!!!
As an aussie, play up on the stereo type that you must be a **** hot sailor(you my well be anyway) as most instructors being employed now in the Uk and the med in their first seasons are complete muppets and can hardly beach start!!!

As for the YA course, it is the eqivalent of the level 1 (start windsurfing) and YA in their wisdom offers no other instructor courses.

Hope this answers all your questions .

If you do choose to go to Bray, Frosty who owns the place is easily the best coach in UK at instructor level so you will not be sorry, and you will save a heap than doing it with FF or UKSA.

Cheers


Simon

www.gowindsurfing.com

[email protected]
sean_
sean_
VIC
8 posts
VIC, 8 posts
29 Mar 2006 11:03am
Are there any places that are a little closer to home that run RYA Start Windsurfing courses? Just since its a fairly big effort to travel all the way to London in order to gain these qualifications.

Will any Windsurfing centres in the Med or the Caribbean recognise the Yachting Aus qualifications - or do they all require the RYA certified ones?

Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
29 Mar 2006 3:11pm
How much does it cost?? To get through the first stage of training, so as to be qualified to start teaching internationally?? Can someone give a ballpark figure for the courses based in Australia??
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:32pm
Answer please
Simon
Simon
WA
275 posts
WA, 275 posts
1 Apr 2006 7:08am
hi wet Willey,
To find the price that Flying fish or UKSA are charging go on to their website, as they offer so many different courses it is hard to give an exact amount. We will be charging approx $700 for the next 5 day instructor course we run (next spring) but also offered a 6 week course last season for approx $5000 including accomadation.
Once you have this qualification (YA) you would need to do a conversion course in the UK (aprox £50-£100) before you could teach. Some UK companys (ie Mark Warner )will only employ UK citizens in some of their resorts.

Hope this helps

Simon

www.gowinsurfing.com
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