Gear breakage

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ka025
ka025
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
16 Mar 2009 10:17am
broke my mast the other day really p####d off about it as i do not break a lot of gear and for the last few years i have had a supplier in my dad. anyway just recently he said enough was enough and now i have russle up a fair of cash to buy a 75 to 100% carbon mast. why does windsurfing have to be so expensive???
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
16 Mar 2009 10:29am
so people can make money of your addiction

patsken
patsken
WA
717 posts
WA, 717 posts
16 Mar 2009 9:30am
If you wanna know what expensive is buy a house and have a kid...
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
16 Mar 2009 12:11pm
...and then get the kid into windsurfing...
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
16 Mar 2009 2:51pm
ka025 said...

now i have russle up a fair of cash to buy a 75 to 100% carbon mast.


No you don't, thats why they make 30-40% carbon masts.
sailpilot
sailpilot
QLD
787 posts
QLD, 787 posts
16 Mar 2009 2:53pm
patsken said...

If you wanna know what expensive is buy a house and have a kid...


Ya forgot the real killer....
I always reackon its not what you earn that counts, its how much your wife's capable of spending.
MikeyS
MikeyS
VIC
1509 posts
VIC, 1509 posts
16 Mar 2009 5:59pm
Easy fix. Get you dad into windsurfing. You'll have all the gear you'll ever need, provided he's not using it at the time.
CJW
CJW
NSW
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CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
16 Mar 2009 6:19pm
I guess it depends what sort of windsurfing you do. I basically sail purely wave/freestyle now and haven't had a mast breakage since I went to RDMs a few years ago. Before that I broke probably 2 masts a year. High end race/slalom stuff certainly seems a lot more fragile and if that's your cup of tea I guess it's something that comes with the territory unfortunately.
ka025
ka025
QLD
181 posts
QLD, 181 posts
16 Mar 2009 6:03pm
MikeyS said...

Easy fix. Get you dad into windsurfing. You'll have all the gear you'll ever need, provided he's not using it at the time.


unfortunately he has just got out of windsurfing due to work and old age!!!

The sail i have is a Code red 6.7 and therefore needs a soft mast otherwise it would feel really stiff and horrible. looks like i am going to have to get a good job.
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
17 Mar 2009 9:44am
OK, maybe this is my lack of experience with big sails and masts showing here, but my understanding is that the carbon content has not got a lot to do with the flex rating on the mast.

The flex on a mast is measured by the IMCS rating, which is independent of the carbon content. So in theory, if you find a 30% carbon mast with the correct flex then it's going to work nicely, so you don't need a superduper expensive mast.

Most masts or a given length (from my experience) have very simillar IMCS ratings:

For example:
Ezzy 400 Skinny 90% Carbon IMCS = 18.4
Ezzy 430 Skinny 90% Carbon IMCS = 21.9
Ezzy 460 Skinny 90% Carbon IMCS = 25.5
Ezzy 490 Skinny 90% Carbon IMCS = 30.2

Gun Sails 430 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 21
Gun Sails 460 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 25
Gun Sails 490 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 29

North Sting 400 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 19
North Sting 430 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 21
North Sting 460 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 25
North Sting 490 Regular 35% Carbon IMCS = 28

North Platinum 400 Regular 100% Carbon IMCS = 19
North Platinum 430 Regular 100% Carbon IMCS = 21
North Platinum 460 Regular 100% Carbon IMCS = 25
North Platinum 490 Regular 100% Carbon IMCS = 28

In fact, according to http://www.onboardsurf.com.au/site/boarding_sail_info.php?itemCat=3230, North masts all have the same IMCS (for a given length), independent of carbon content, and a 35% carbon mast is softer than an Ezzy 90% carbon mast of the same length.

Job done - buy the 35% job!
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