Harness Line Length

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12 Jun 2008 7:31pm
Rider5 said...

The actual position on the boom to place the lines and the distance apart that the lines are set. I'm into relaxed sailing out the back saving my energy for a long session and the wave not twitchy feeling, feel the tiniest gust sailing and when I'm on a wave(the best bit) I don't use the lines because I'm unhooked.



Interesting.. I've found the 1/3rd measurement to be very close on all my sails. (4.2 - 7.0) The exact position does change a bit depending on how full the sail is rigged, and how hard it's blowing, but 1/3 is a very good place to start in my experience. I like my lines really close together now - it's usually a bit gusty here, and I find that the tight lines really help to trim (or survive) in the gusts where having them further apart slows the rig's response. It does mean that they need to be in the right place more than they do with a wider spacing though.

Did you find that the back line at 1/3rd was too far back or forward for you?

I agree.. harness lines are pretty redundant on the wave, but I need all the help I can get to get back up wind after going down the line. Especially when it's a bit sheltered and gusty on the inside (yeah, I know.. I should get off the wave sooner, but sometimes I get a bit carried away!)

I think Cribby's aim is to chuck a guideline out there for people who're getting started and don't have a lot of experience to call on.
vando
vando
QLD
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QLD, 3419 posts
12 Jun 2008 9:53pm
Something to think about is that some lines can vary from Brand to Brand.
Seems strange but they do, they must measure there lengths slightly differently.

ta Vando
firiebob
firiebob
WA
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12 Jun 2008 8:31pm
vando said...

Something to think about is that some lines can vary from Brand to Brand.
Seems strange but they do, they must measure there lengths slightly differently.

ta Vando


Dead right, I ordered some 26" Ezzy's to replace my 24" prolimits, same size
Now have 26" Prolimit and will now stick to same brand, not a case of walking into a shop here, have to order.
easty
easty
TAS
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TAS, 2213 posts
13 Jun 2008 3:45pm
The jury has returned - just got back from my first sail on 26" lines, and yes I should have ditched the 22" ones a long time ago. I noticed one benefit not mentioned so far - I have always had trouble "popping" off a wave, so have never attained any height in jumps. Today, even though I felt very rusty from lack of sailing, the first small jump I tried resulted in more air than ever before. 22" lines just wasn't giving me any room to spring the board off a wave. I also nearly decapitated a penguin, but that's got nothing to do with harness lines, just an indication of how friggin' cold it was!
FlickySpinny
FlickySpinny
WA
657 posts
WA, 657 posts
19 Jun 2008 4:20pm
WOW!!! This is really interesting... I sail 18"s and a waist harness. I had no idea so many people went so long! A mate lent me his rig last summer for a blast out of St. Kilda and it nearly killed me because the lines were SOOOOO long (seat harness as well)- I was having to use a massive amount of strength to keep me where I wanted to be (i.e. back straight, arse not in the water). The 18"s I can sail all day without effort, because I don't have to use any strength at all.

All my friends in Egypt (very, very good freestylers) use the same length lines. Strange. Actually, I might have worked it out - I sail with almost no weight on my back foot at all due to the puny chewed-up chopped-down little freestyle fin I use, so hence I'm naturally wanting to be a lot closer to the rig, where as a lot of guys (esp. the speed sailors) look like they're weight-back / closing-the-slot style sailing.

Maybe that's it...
NotWal
NotWal
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QLD, 7436 posts
20 Jun 2008 5:12am
FlickySpinny said...


All my friends in Egypt (very, very good freestylers) use the same length lines.


Same as what, long or short?
Ricardo uses long lines I believe.
russh
russh
SA
3027 posts
SA, 3027 posts
20 Jun 2008 8:24am
Might be interesting to actually measure your lines - the so called 22-28 Gaastra adjustable lines at full length were actually over 31. When I shortened them to the mark I thought was about at 24 they were actually at about 27.

Problem is I think they slowly slip and lengthen the longer you sail

Can understand now why I shorten them when it was windy as.

Might go back to the old non adjust 28's

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