Harrow gybes !!!

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Harrow
Harrow
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22 Feb 2006 10:48pm
Had to get myself wet today, after my 'left the mast at home' fiasco on Sunday. Only 12 knots, so decided it was time to learn to gybe. Strung up my 5.2 and managed 4 successful gybes. (All in the last 20 minutes of my hour on the water).

Anyway, I hope they count as real gybes, as they were very slow, and the tail of the board was on the way under with each turn. Learnt to move forward to stop the board sinking, and started to get the timing right for the sail flip.

Will I be able to translate any of this skill to a windy day? I hope so!!!

Just wondering if I've got the footwork right. This is what I did:

1. Bring rear foot forward and place on other side of board to initiate turn.
2. As board goes through downwind, bring front foot back to be the back of the board, and then place the old back foot in the new front foot position. (Not sure if I'm doing these in the right order).

Regards,
Harrow.
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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22 Feb 2006 8:04pm
Sounds spot on to me, but at low speed, as you've found out, it's important to maintain board trim.
with high speed fully planing gybes, board trim isn't an issue. Back foot comes out of strap, and goes to just behind new front strap, when board is around, old front foot goes straight into bak strap, and new front foot should just have to swivel slightly and slide into new front strap. So thru the middle of the gybe both feet are around the front footstraps, if the tail sinks a bit too much more weight can be transfered thru the mast.
Combs
Combs
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22 Feb 2006 8:17pm
I have been learning to gybe myself and have been getting some pretty good tips from Peter Hart's DVDs.

Apparently the trick is to move your back foot to the inside rail just in front of the back strap. Bend your ankles and knees to lean forward into the turn. A common mistake it appears is to have both feet forward during the turn (this loses you stability).

Through the turn, you slip your front foot out of its strap and in front of your back foot on the inside rail, and in the same movement swing your back foot in front of your front strap to become your new front foot.

Keeping your back foot to the back gives your front foot room to move as well as giving you better balance. If your tail sinks you are not powered up enough into the gybe. With a 5.4 in 12knots you were probably a bit light on for power.

Anyway, I followed his advise and am steadilly getting better and better at it. Good luck.
decrepit
decrepit
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22 Feb 2006 9:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by Combs

the trick is to move your back foot to the inside rail just in front of the back strap. -- A common mistake it appears is to have both feet forward during the turn (this loses you stability).
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That contradicts my experience, are you on a wide back board??? That may be the difference, my boards have relatively narrow tails.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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22 Feb 2006 11:27pm
i agree with you decrepit.

but we need to clarify whether we are talikng step gybes or strap to strap gybes?
decrepit
decrepit
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22 Feb 2006 9:37pm
OK slow speed step gybe, feet are well forward, finishing with front foot near mast.
Full planing gybe, feet are around front footstraps, thru the gybe
Slam/scissor gybe, back foot on top of or behind backstrap.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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22 Feb 2006 11:43pm
YEP,

thats what i do......
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
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23 Feb 2006 12:00am
You will find having the back foot just in front of the back strap works best to small wave boards where you can apply pressure and tilt the board easily from the middle position, same principle as having one strap at back on wave boards.
nebbian
nebbian
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23 Feb 2006 9:05am
quote:
Will I be able to translate any of this skill to a windy day? I hope so!!!


That's what I thought until I went out yesterday... all my gybes had been in 10 knots or less, suddenly when it's 15-20 things happen a LOT faster Even though I could get most of my gybes (including rig flip) in low wind, yesterday I didn't finish any of them

Ah well back to looking like a kook I guess.
Gestalt
Gestalt
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23 Feb 2006 11:30am
quote:
Originally posted by nebbian

Ah well back to looking like a kook I guess.




don't give up..... if you want more help just describe what happened and someone may have a tip..
Harrow
Harrow
NSW
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23 Feb 2006 1:55pm
quote:
Originally posted by nebbian

That's what I thought until I went out yesterday... all my gybes had been in 10 knots or less, suddenly when it's 15-20 things happen a LOT faster Even though I could get most of my gybes (including rig flip) in low wind, yesterday I didn't finish any of them

Ah well back to looking like a kook I guess.


Nebbian,

Where do you sail? I will be coming up your way in May to visit family and was wondering if there were any good spots?
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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23 Feb 2006 7:31pm
Harrow,

I mostly sail at the train (follow the Smith Street Motorway till it hits the water near Southport on the gold coast) but when the northerly's are blowing then you can find me at Cudgen Lake (just inland from Cabarita, about 15 km south of Tweed Heads). Let me know when you're coming up and we'll organise a day to go for a sail

Had an average day's sailing today, wind was very gusty and I had trouble going upwind, although I did get a couple of gybes (but only when the wind was light!). The main problem is that I need some more rubber deck grip between the footstraps, I seem to just slip off when my feet are between the straps when gybing. Sounds silly I know, but that's what was happening...
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