Help!! What size Sail for 10-15knot? pls help

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gemax
gemax
NSW
57 posts
NSW, 57 posts
29 Jul 2007 9:07pm
Hi.
Need advise on size of sail. What size sail will be good one to sail in 10-15knot. Ihave 140L board and 72KG. Have 6m but never planning.
Reasons for going out at light wind is, 1) take family out, 2) still learning. Please advise me.
Haircut
Haircut
QLD
6491 posts
QLD, 6491 posts
29 Jul 2007 9:30pm
as you've probably realised, the weathermans 10-15 knots is different to a real 10-15knots. If it is a genuine 10-15 then a 6 - 7 metre sail on a 140litre board & you being 72kg should get you going ok. Technique will help a little too, but it will come with practice

i'm 70kg on a 97litre board using a 5.6 metre combat and can plane in genuine 12 - 15 knots but sometimes have to work at it by pumping or feathering the sail to get me up onto the plane, so it is very possible with your gear
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
29 Jul 2007 9:35pm
A 6 m will get ya goin in 15 knots , just need someone to show you how to give it a bit of a "pump" to get her up on the plane, then you'll be laughin.
hardie
hardie
WA
4133 posts
WA, 4133 posts
29 Jul 2007 7:36pm
quote:
Originally posted by gemax

Hi.
Need advise on size of sail. What size sail will be good one to sail in 10-15knot. Ihave 140L board and 72KG. Have 6m but never planning.
Reasons for going out at light wind is, 1) take family out, 2) still learning. Please advise me.



At your weight a good 2 to 3 cam 7.5m (Gaastra GTX, NP V8) will do the trick, more likely to get planing in 12 knots, and sail through the 10 knot lulls, to plain in 10 knots probably need a 9m. At 15kts the 6m should work with pumping tech.
jord070
jord070
WA
1109 posts
WA, 1109 posts
29 Jul 2007 8:17pm
i am 70kg, and and the sail i use is a 6.3 and 6.5 for 10 to 15 knotts, and the board is a 110 lter starboard carve. but if i really cant be bothered with using good technique i like to go out on my 160leater and my 8.5. but if you can get 7.0 it will get you goin no problems,
vando
vando
QLD
3419 posts
QLD, 3419 posts
29 Jul 2007 10:26pm
Hey gemax, To take advantage of a 140lt board I would look at at lest a 7.5. ta vando
gemax
gemax
NSW
57 posts
NSW, 57 posts
18 Aug 2007 11:04pm
Shall i use 7 or 7.5.
What i meant by 10-15 knot is "yellow arrow" in seabreeze weather report.
I really need advise on 7 or 7.5
Gybesports
Gybesports
NSW
193 posts
NSW, 193 posts
18 Aug 2007 11:55pm
i reccomend 7.5 it will be fine to carry the extra area until you use the 6m. If you get something with Cams will also plane up a little earlier. I was riding the 140 litre Tabou Rocket this season with a 7.5m GTX in 10knots and I am 93kg.

Auswind
Auswind
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
19 Aug 2007 3:17pm
Matt H here from Auswind

Def go 7.5 if you want to enjoy yellow arrows. Personally i like the Severne Overdrive as it can be rigged with a little less downhaul ( about 5 - 10 cm shy of full downhaul/ loose leech setting-keeps the leech tight and gives extra grunt in the bottom half of the sail's range) and out haul set to deliver quite a deep draft (sail just touching the boom at the back end) - The sail is super easy to rig and delivers a really springy dynamic grunt when rigged like this.
As an 85 kg rider on a 105 litre isonic, with some rig pumping (this is where the springy sail setting delivers big time) i am planing before most crew (formula gear exluded)- dont even really need to go to a fin bigger than 34cm. With your 140 litre board and 72 kg combined with some smart rigging you should be going super early on a 7.5!!

Dont make the mistake of cranking on the downhaul in light air - seen plenty of riders kill ther bottom end doing this.
When it gets windy and you really start to feel some power in the sail THEN its time to go for the loose leech and flatter outhaul trim. The Overdrive has a massive rigging range in that it can bet set up to feel great in light or windy stuff!! (Scott Mckercher used one in the ledge to Lancelin 2 years ago and came in second behind Jesper Orth by only meters - so the top end is there!


you can see a cool movie of the overdrive in action here:



The world most powerful 7.5 is the Severne Glide - it has the power of a 9 (german mags rated it highly) and was designed soley with bottom end and low weight (high performance exclusive e3 sail material was used) in mind. As far as i know no one else on the planet has done a sail design like this one.

Personally i love the glide as you can be blasting in 10 knots but the super light weight means duck gybes and full carving gybes with great exit speed, carving 360s etc were achievable. I personally dont like the rig weight and extra hardware (another boom, another mast) that sails over 7.5 require (but id do like the power)

Glides can be hard to find though...

drjukka
drjukka
QLD
258 posts
QLD, 258 posts
20 Aug 2007 11:17pm
gemax,

I'm in the 85-90kg range and in 12-15 knots I can plane with a 7.0 on a 105 litre board - no problems. (6.0 is borderline for me in these conditions)

The key here is technique and I would recommend learning some of the finer arts of planing using a 6.0 or a 6.5 on a 140litre board - such as 'pumping' and bearing off. (light wind water-start) (using the swell to get you on the plane)

With this combo you will have plenty of pull and enough volume to get you going.

Going to a bigger sail can be more difficult- harder to water start and to gybe - extra weight as well. Consider a sail without cams as they can be easier to handle in lighter winds and a bit more flexible - easier to uphaul and waterstart. The downside is the draught moves around - but by the time you have realised this is an issue you can make your own judgement.

- J

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