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FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
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19 Jun 2004 4:38pm
Hi, Ive been windsurfing since the end of last summer, and have been using an old mistral screamer, Im looking for something lighter, that is good for jumping and i can take in the waves, but can also sail upwind without too much effort. Have a budget of about $800 give or take, anybody got any suggestions...

was looking at a mistral naish 8'4"

Cheers
Haydz
Tozza
Tozza
WA
160 posts
WA, 160 posts
19 Jun 2004 8:16pm
I have a 96L Maui Project Style. I use it on the river and hop it on river chop no probs. Its got alot of rocker so more of a freestyle wave cross over but 96L maybe to big for pure wave depending on your weight ... but good balance for river. Ill dig up the buy sell post if your interested.

At the moment its $1100
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
19 Jun 2004 9:51pm
i have a kinetic 65 l 2002 wave board good cont $350

spot1
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
21 Jun 2004 12:29am
Filth

I now mostly ride a 2001 Mistral Naish 8'9" and love it! Have a look at link below for 2001 board Naish 8'4 & other tests from (US) Windsurfer Magazine.

Naish 8'4 - www.windsurfingmag.com

www.windsurfingmag.com/article.jsp?ID=1372

While some of the private sale gear are great bargains, others may be more expensive than what the shops can offer, given it is the off season and they are usually keen for a sale. Have you any windsurfing mates who can suss the difference for you?

How heavy are you? Where do you look to be sailing mostly? What size sails have you got? All these will determine what board is best to get.

Getting gone!!!
Seaton
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
21 Jun 2004 10:31am
Hey, sorry i should have said this stuff at the beginning... I weigh 72 kg, and have a 4.7 and a 5.7 both wave sails... I been sailing mostly in the river, but i want to get out in the ocean.
Fieldie
Fieldie
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
21 Jun 2004 3:02pm
Filth,

It also really depends on your skill level. If you are nailing your jibes (or are at least a demon at the waterstarts) and are comfortably in the footstraps then you may get away with the 76L board. It may not have quite enough bouyancy to float you and your rig and may fall off the plane easier in the lulls. You won't be able to uphaul on it.

Wave boards are designed more with responsiveness in mind and can tend to be a bit twitchy and nervous for the intermediate, as they tend to be more sensitive to foot pressure and less forgiving of mistakes in footwork.

If it is only your first season, you may find such a small board will have you frustrated and struggling a bit with the steep learning curve, have you thinking that you suck, and then you end up giving the windsurfing away as being too hard etc...

I'd probably stick to something closer to 80-85L, at around $500-600 and maybe look at another sail in the 4.2m range with what you have left over, then count down the days until summer!

Good luck with it!!!!!

Getting gone!!!
Seaton
Davo87
Davo87
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
21 Jun 2004 4:23pm
Haydz,
i think you rang about my jp last night? Anyway i tend to agree with Seaton that you probably want a solid 80 litres when your getting into the waves although is does depend on your ability. If your going to be sailing lots with 5.7 it would suit 80 litres better.

But if your still interested in the Jp you can give me a ring and take it out for a sail to see if it's suitable.
Ranger
Ranger
WA
23 posts
WA, 23 posts
23 Jun 2004 1:00pm
Filth,

I have the exact board you need. Its on the for sale page if you want to read the add, but you may have to look back a couple of weeks. You can read the coments on is as well. But...

Its a F2 - Axis 262, in brand new condition. I bought is new, but hardly used it. However I bought it as an all round high speed board that I could jump, and also use in small waves. It has 82L, and it is tough as nails, so it will take a battering. (the Axis boards are a little stronger than the JP's and the Maui Project boards, just a little heavier as well) I also have a thick board bag for it.

Let me know if you want a look. Im in Bicton (East Freo)
0413 629 404



smalltime
smalltime
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
23 Jun 2004 2:22pm
If you are still interested, I have a larger 8'5" Minstral Naish, in near mint condition, hardley ever used. It is 85L and is a really fast and light board good for waves and jumping.
curac
curac
WA
1160 posts
WA, 1160 posts
23 Jun 2004 2:30pm
a buddy of mine bought a 267 (i think) F2 ride.. i have only had a go on it twice but it seems like a good board. pretty fast.. and early planing. .he picked up a good deal.. in near new condition for $550 after some haggling.. seems pretty strong too cause when he falls he falls all over his ****.. and the board hasn't got any wholes in it yet.. or major dings..

I LIKE WATER
elmo
elmo
WA
8894 posts
WA, 8894 posts
23 Jun 2004 7:22pm
Filth,
I also don't know your capabilities so please don't take offence.

If you are still in the steep learning curve (you still regularly throwing yourself bodily at your gear) then you may be better of with one off the plastic boards.

Yes they are slightly daggy and a touch heavier than the latest and greatest carb/epoxy boards, but they have one major benifit. They are almost indestructable, a huge advantage when you are starting out.

Carb epoxy boards although very nice to ride, cannot generally handle the punishment of the regular stack.
For example.. if you can't jibe, then every run you make every time you go to turn around you have the potential to break your board.

I used a tiga board for 2 years it took all I could dish out. I have now progressed to a very nice F2 project board (loverly) which I got at the end of last winter, the best run I have had is where Decrepit had to panel beat it 3 weeks in a row. The last session he has now reinforced the nose with Carb Kevlar which seems to be working.

I shudder to think how many boards ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) I would have gone through if I hadn't got the Tiga.

Once you really confident then look at an epoxy board.

Re choosing a board.

Look what is out there, as you can see that as a potential buyer you are extremely popular, that is because there is a schidt load of s/hand gear out there.

First see what is available, then research. There are plenty of sites on the net where oyu can see reviews, also check forums. Most importantly speak to your local crew, these are your best bet, you just need to filter out the creative interpretations on how good this or that is.

Board volume.
When learning especially on the ocean volume is your friend, more volume roughly equates to more time on water. Experienced guys and gals make it look all to simple getting going on low volume boards and small sails, they have the key words experience and technique which makes them a lot more efficient than you and me.


Hope this is of help, although I thought the advise was a bit suss when I was first given it. It did keep me in the sport, I couldn't have afforded the repair bills otherwise.

I still have my Tiga, no it's not for sale. I'm saving it for my kids to learn on and hopefully the missus (way cool).

All the best

Alby

Life is but a dream, from which we all must wake.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
23 Jun 2004 9:35pm
i gotta agree with elmo...i learnt on a tiga 257 but im not sure of the litres (stuff all) and it was a bloody mission to get that tooth pick thing going but it paid off...if you were to look at it you would think what the hell im pretty proud of myself hardie still has it in his garage amongst his quiver and no its not for sale either coz i want to use it this summer its a plastic board too and indestructable for sure i weigh 65kg so i dont need too much volume but the F2 sputnik that hardie loaned to me (which im buying off him) has around the 90 something litres and its a friggin' rocket ship i recon filth you should try one of those starboard carves 90L it would float you nicely and wont be too much of a sinker but then again im in your position too with trying to decide on a wave board so my advise may be useless these elders on this site are the ones to listen to

GONE WITH THE WIND
skinny
skinny
QLD
45 posts
QLD, 45 posts
24 Jun 2004 7:37am
I agree with the guys above, The tiga is an indestructable board. i had a strapper for a while,then flogged all my gear and moved east. a few years later picked up some cheap gear to get me sailing and i picked up a tiga275 for $350.00 and its just as fast as my strapper ever was. not to mention holds up to the unexpected hooked in trip around the mast trick that im good at. i had a go on a mates f2 freeride board the other month, they are an awsome ride too.

Wait untill august. From my past experience, august or around then, is when the latest season gear comes out and you will find many who lives for the lastes gear, trying to offload last seasons gear.

dont be in a rush, and see if you can test drive the board before you buy. nothing worse than shelling out big bucks on a board that you hate riding.

G

Ex Woodmans Point,WA Sailor living on the Gold Coast
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
24 Jun 2004 9:58am
the old hooked in trip and the mast trick

GONE WITH THE WIND
Justan
Justan
WA
41 posts
WA, 41 posts
24 Jun 2004 8:16pm
heya skinny,

have you been for a sail lately? Maybe this weekend. 20-25 knots.

i hope.....fingers crossed

Justan
skinny
skinny
QLD
45 posts
QLD, 45 posts
24 Jun 2004 10:30pm
Nah Justan, been a bit soft with this cold weather and all.
sunday arvo may be on the books, dont know yet, the better half may have stuff for me to do round the house.

Greenroom, at least once every session. you get a funny sensation as your thrown on top of your sail still hooked in whilst the rest of the crew sail past and heckel.

G



Ex Woodmans Point,WA Sailor living on the Gold Coast
Justan
Justan
WA
41 posts
WA, 41 posts
25 Jun 2004 7:41am
we had a great full day at wellington pt last sunday. hopefully another one coming up this weekend. I go back to wellington again

J
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