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lhowemt
lhowemt
15 posts
15 posts
31 Mar 2007 11:10pm
HI all

So, I posted before and have now refined my choices for a new board. Here's my story:

I need a new board for lake sailing in the stat of Montana (USA). I mostly sail a 6.2. Here are my priorities

I am replacing an ancient, but well loved Seatrend World cup slalom (90L). I want a modern board that hopefully is a bit easier to sail, or slog!

Easy planing (15>20 mph)
Good jibing (I consider the Seatrend to be fun to jibe, although it is hard to always plane out of)
Upwind easy
Slogs OK when the wind dies

I don't do tricks, and I don't try to go Mach 10. I've been looking at the Starboard Isonic 111. but at $2000, I figure I should check out everything. Also looking at Dabou rocket 115?

Any ideas? I weigh 180lbs/90kg. This will be my first new board, so I am pretty nervous, I don't know a lot about the gear available.

I am now looking at The Starboard S-type, Tabou Rocket, and JP supersport. What do you all recommend and which size? I don't uphaul, but give my weight I was thinking 110-115 but reading other's posts maybe I should go down to 100-105?

Let's say I choose a board, and can't decide the size. Do I target my 6.2 to be the midrange of the board size and go with that?
lhowemt
lhowemt
15 posts
15 posts
1 Apr 2007 9:54pm
Well how about that. Before I post with my profile in default saying I am Australian, so I changed it to USA. I posted on the gear review, and one guy recommended to post over here, but warned me that there aren't many responses to USA folks. something about a troll. I don't know what that is, but I think it's lame if you aren't responding just because I am from the US. I am just another windsurfer looking for a little advice
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
1 Apr 2007 10:04pm
go the 100-105

the others are too big, the modern wider style boards will give you more float with less volume if you no what i mean !



FormulaNova
FormulaNova
WA
15105 posts
WA, 15105 posts
2 Apr 2007 8:42am
I think at 90kgs a 100 to 105 litre board is just a little bit small. I weigh between 93 and 95kg and a 99 litre board is great when it's windy but an absolute pain when the wind dies a bit and it sinks.

On the other hand a 115 litre board is just okay for me to uphaul on when it's light and good fun when it gets windier.

If you are sailing in a lake, is it freshwater or saltwater? You will need more volume in freshwater, although I don't know how much more.

At your weight I would steer clear of a 100 litre board if you want easy planing and for it to be easy to slog when its light.



WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
2 Apr 2007 9:27am
i'm 90kg's and use a 104ltr jp super-x for light winds with a 6.5m.. in 15-20 knts. on the Ocean.

i can slog back in on this when the wind drops off, and it gets on the plane with a bit of help from the forearms....also can uphaul when the wind 's not enough to waterstart...

But most importantly when the wind is sweet the board is sweet, and this is why I bought the board!

garynoel
garynoel
WA
260 posts
WA, 260 posts
2 Apr 2007 10:04am
lhowemt..

We didn't answer you at first cos we thought you were a kitesurfer..

We love Americans in Australia.
DAM71
DAM71
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
2 Apr 2007 5:39pm
Hi Laura,

Any frreride board in the 110 - 115 litre range would most likely suit your requirements. You won't find a huge difference between a 110 litre and 100 litre unless you're maxed out. then you will most likely go back to your 90 litre seatrend. What you buy will depend on what your local retailer can supply. But might i suggest that you stick to a free move or free ride design - they are comfortable to sail and with the 110 litre volume you will have a huge wind range.

Talk to your local shop and see if there are closeouts from previous years - great way to get new gear without the new gear price tag - you can save up to $500 or more depending on stock and year model.

Good luck
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
2 Apr 2007 3:48pm
Just a clarification:

180 pounds is 82 kg, not 90kg.

So 105 litres would be fine, especially with a modern shape that is a bit floatier than more traditional shapes. I'm 85 kg and my heavy old 105 litre board is fine, I can uphaul it no worries, it slogs quite fast as well.
fordyD
fordyD
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
2 Apr 2007 5:49pm
Also you are using in fresh water so you need a bit more volume. Def 110 litre or more. Tabou Rocket 115 would be nice
fordyD
fordyD
NSW
17 posts
NSW, 17 posts
2 Apr 2007 5:50pm
Also you are using in fresh water so you need a bit more volume. Def 110 litre or more. Tabou Rocket 115 would be nice
rosey
rosey
NSW
575 posts
NSW, 575 posts
2 Apr 2007 5:55pm
100-105L freestyle board.
freestyles have a masssssive range.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23684 posts
WA, 23684 posts
2 Apr 2007 4:28pm
Yes but maxed out they are a pain because all they wanna do is bounce or turn. The top speed is very average too, even my EVO kills a freestyle board

Laura is better off with a freeeride.

Nowadays the freestyles are so specialist I would not *recommend* them to anybody, ever.
No insult to Laura's skill level, but somebody who wants a freestyle KNOWS they want a freestyle cos they are so into freestyle.... if that makes sense. 90% of the world's sailors want a freeride or crossover. When people say they sail 15-20 and plane, unless they ask about learning a ponch into a 540 willy skipper one hander, don't say "buy a freestyle".

lhowemt
lhowemt
15 posts
15 posts
2 Apr 2007 11:19pm
I live in Montana, waaaay off the beaten path. There are no local shops, the closest is probably the Gorge, 8 hrs away. The sailing there is quite a bit different then here in Montana. I sail in the Gorge also, but I want this board for Montana, fresh water lake sailing. I am actually a better at sailing at the Gorge in high wind (4.2m & under) than here at home. I learned in the Gorge and sail there more so I am much more skilled there. So although I consider myself "good", I actually am not very efficient at sailing in low wind.

so I want a free ride board, but what is one? Tabou doesn't call anything free ride(Rocket is a "super-cross"). Starboard calls the S-Type a freeride/slalom, and JP calls the supersport a freeride/slalom. I'm also looking at the Mistral Screamer, but they don't classify the board types on their website.

Whew, the size recommendations are between 100-115. I think once I nail down the board I'll focus in on what they offer and talk to the shop that is selling it.

One other note, I don't want to "go back to my Seatrend". I plan on retiring it, I have an old Mistral Ecstacy I take out when overpowered on the 5.2. so that will be my next board down.

thanks a lot everyone!

OK, with these 4 boards, is it a wash which one to get? All would fit well?

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14968 posts
QLD, 14968 posts
3 Apr 2007 1:40am
HI,

the JP excite ride is a freeride board. very fast, planes early etc etc.

the tabout rocket is also a freeride board.

the starboard carve is a freeride board. (thousands sold around the world)

the exocet scross is a freeride board

the Naish freeride slalom.


hope this helps.

cheers
gestalt.

p.s i agree with the others about 110-115lt board. normally lakes are fresh water and the wind is gusty, so a slightly bigger board is more fun.


DAM71
DAM71
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
3 Apr 2007 9:24am
Mistral screamer is a little more slalom oriented, the mistral syncro is more freeride, both are easy to ride. F2 stoke is also more slalom and probably a little more complex to ride than the screamer - the F2 XTC is a bit more user friendly free-ride'ish (is that a word?). I know a few guys using the fanatic eagle and it seems to be very friendly and controllable with good wind range the 114 litre could hypothetically run 5.0-7.5 if you really wanted to. Fanatic also do a hawk which sits in there somewhere as well. Naish freeslalom is definately more slalom oriented but is really quite nice jibes well as do the other freeslalom's. I know nothing about the starboards, JP's, tabou etc. But realise that all manufacturers are making quality product - make sure you get the best value for money.

If you are just using this for blasting then consider the free slalom style boards - they are a lot of fun and usually carve really well.
Good luck
lhowemt
lhowemt
15 posts
15 posts
3 Apr 2007 9:29am
Hey thanks everyone. I've narrowed it down to the Tabou Rocket, 115. I got a deal on it from a shop in the Gorge (my brother lives there and is a good customer) and they are going to get it to me for $1200 USD. that's the cheapest of the bunch I was looking at, especially delivered. They also sell F2 and Fanatic, but pointed me towards the Tabou.

Time to celebrate, my first brand new board!!!
windswept
windswept
NSW
16 posts
NSW, 16 posts
6 Apr 2007 12:10pm
I agree with going for a 115. I am about the same weight, and use a 116 JP Super X, and it is only a handful in 20kts plus and chop. On fresh water I reckon it would be a good fit. The Rockets are pretty good to.
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