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Introducing the little ones to sailing & and not scaring them.

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Created by ginno 2 months ago, 11 Oct 2018
ginno
VIC, 63 posts
11 Oct 2018 2:43PM
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Hi All,

I had a pretty special day last weekend, went out on the water for the first time with my 4 y/o girl sitting by my feet in low winds on a big board. Dad was far more excited than she was!

She was worried at first but was ok when she could hold onto my legs,things got stressful again for her as I turned to return to shore (lowered rig and swung round via uphaul rope), we did 2 runs in and out and I didn't push it any further, I was pleased that on the second run she stood up while holding onto my leg!

Overall her highlight of the day were of course making a mermaid tail in the sand which is completely understandable. :)

Anyone have any stories on how they got their kids involved and when and how they introduced them onto the board? I know 4 is very young and I am in no way going to push her but it would be nice the share the experience together as she gets older. Was thinking maybe starting with taking her out on a SUP and then SUP surfing may be a better way to get her used to the water. Having her friends interested in a few years too I guess would help!

Cheers!

MikeyS
VIC, 1401 posts
11 Oct 2018 4:24PM
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I have no pearls of wisdom how to get them involved in board sports, but whatever you do, please don't, I repeat DON"T, ever let them get involved with horses! (Unless you love horses more than them).

Too many windy afternoons spent in a paddock picking up horse poop, wishing I was sailing.

ka43
NSW, 2761 posts
11 Oct 2018 6:32PM
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I got my daughter (at 12 a lot older than your 4 year old) to try SUP. She loved it so I tried her on the same board with one of my old wave sails.
She was a very competent swimmer so no worries about falling in etc. We went out together with her standing in front of me holding onto the mast. When she got used to the feel of the wind ( and thought we were flying ) I got her to lean back against me and hang off the boom. Lowered the boom and got her to feel the wind in the sail until she got to the point of being able to steer us a round a bit. She loved it. Still sup with her but lost interest in windsurfing with school, friends, boys etc.
Hope you have many hours of fun together, its a great way to hang with your kids!!!
P.S One thing, make it fun to fall off etc. No stress is the go.

ZeeGerman
84 posts
11 Oct 2018 11:04PM
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"No stress is the go!" +1
When my son was 4, I couldn't resist the urge to buy a 1,5m? kids rig, just in case as we had fooled around in the water on my boards the years before. He first played around with the sail on the beach (fin taken out of board), imitating the sailors on the water in whatever they did. A week later he could uphaul and sail across a little cove to a place where the waves were too big for him to uphaul (some 20 centimetres were enough). This may sound downright prodigious to many, but it was all he could do until he was nine. Football was all the craze and the kid's rig went on holiday with us mostly ignored by him. Then he picked it up again and aged 11, he's out blasting (but still only uphauling) on a 3,0 when I'm fully powered on a 5,6. My daughter started et the age of seven only, but at the age of nine, she is now better than him then.
They've got their own speed and times.
I avoided buying special boards as I didn't want to drag them along, so only invested in two kids rigs (1,5 and 2,5) and wetsuits. This never gave me the feeling I had to push them to make the effort worthwhile. Kids boards with a center fin or Windsups would make it a lot easier for them not to go downsind all the time, though.
Good conditions are key, I think, so I've found myself wading around in a lukewarm lagoon on Naxos for hours at times, as they needed help dragging the boards upwind. Prevented me from too many afternoon beers on days with 10 knots or less of wind, though, so this was probably even healthy.
Fool around with them on the water in any way, let them do what they want to do and keep an eye on how they look at you, water is a scary element after all!
Cheers,
Sven

azzyish12
4 posts
12 Oct 2018 12:54AM
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ginno said..
Hi All,

I had a pretty special day last weekend, went out on the water for the first time with my 4 y/o girl sitting by my feet in low winds on a big board. Dad was far more excited than she was!

She was worried at first but was ok when she could hold onto my legs,things got stressful again for her as I turned to return to shore (lowered rig and swung round via uphaul rope), we did 2 runs in and out and I didn't push it any further, I was pleased that on the second run she stood up while holding onto my leg!

Overall her highlight of the day were of course making a mermaid tail in the sand which is completely understandable. :)

Anyone have any stories on how they got their kids involved and when and how they introduced them onto the board? I know 4 is very young and I am in no way going to push her but it would be nice the share the experience together as she gets older. Was thinking maybe starting with taking her out on a SUP and then SUP surfing may be a better way to get her used to the water. Having her friends interested in a few years too I guess would help!

Cheers!


Anybody do any accounts on how they have their children included and when and how they presented them onto the board? I know 4 is extremely youthful and I am not the slightest bit going to push her yet it would be decent the offer the experience together as she gets more seasoned. Was thinking possibly beginning with taking her out on a SUP and after that SUP surfing might be a superior method to get her used to the water

boardsurfr
708 posts
12 Oct 2018 2:49AM
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Towing kids on their own board with a windsurfer can be a lot of fun for them, too. They should be comfortable swimming alone, though, so your daughter may be a bit young.

Another thing that worked great for my daughter was attending kids camps in the summer in Cabarete. Windsurfing was just one of the fun things they did, but she got pretty good at it. In hindsight, I should have also gotten her some private lessons to get her into the harness and straps - she never got hooked, and when she turned pre-teen, windsurfing was not cool anymore.

eckas
NSW, 271 posts
12 Oct 2018 6:05AM
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A couple of riding positions that have worked for my and my 6 year olds....similar to what is described above. 110cm wide, 210l Starboard start is still a hoot when she lifts her skirt and pops onto the plane....






ballast
QLD, 401 posts
12 Oct 2018 7:36AM
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Hey Ginno.

I think the right gear and gentle persuasion and the right venue. And +++No Stress
My son who has just turned 8 has been coming out with me on my inflatable SUP for a long while now. Both paddling and sailing. It also makes an awesome play platform for him and his mates, just need to wash the mud off afterwards.
Tried him on the SUP with this rig at Easter and although it was nice and stable the small sail had no effect on the board and he was not able to steer.
I have since picked up a 2nd hand 122 Kode, with centre fin slot and full EVA deck. He had his first sail on it this September Holidays at Elanda Point.
First day we tried was a little too breezy and had a little chop. So it was a bit of a challenge, but he enjoyed his couple of stacks.
Second day was really light, but by the end of a short hour session with the bigger 1.5m he was able to sail away from me, drop the sail and turn the board, uphaul and sail back to me, steering as he went.
Both of us were very chuffed with that.
Added a bit of tech as he got to wear my GW60, which was popular too.

As a Bonus the Kode is a good size for me when the wind comes in, so I am not bringing an extra board.

Looking forward to another session soon.




MikeyS
VIC, 1401 posts
12 Oct 2018 8:59AM
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boardsurfr said..
Towing kids on their own board with a windsurfer can be a lot of fun for them, too. They should be comfortable swimming alone, though, so your daughter may be a bit young.

Another thing that worked great for my daughter was attending kids camps in the summer in Cabarete. Windsurfing was just one of the fun things they did, but she got pretty good at it. In hindsight, I should have also gotten her some private lessons to get her into the harness and straps - she never got hooked, and when she turned pre-teen, windsurfing was not cool anymore.



If you are going to tow, connect the tow rope to your board at the uni, rather than to a footstrap. Sure, the rope gets in the way of your feet a bit, but you have much more ability to control your board. Otherwise, if you connect to rope to a footstrap, it just keeps dragging the back of the board in line with the towed board making it hard to get upwind.

I tried this- it was good for my board control skills, the girls had fun, but they still preferred horses.

WindsurfingWA
WA, 606 posts
12 Oct 2018 7:41AM
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Get kids sailing with kids - organise a morning with your sailing friends to get the kids on the water. When kids see other kids having fun they get over any fears and join in.

Kids get cold quick even when it is 35?c. You might not feel it but they could be freezing.

Before you know it they will be storming off down the beach to rig up because you are too slow putting on sunscreen.





ka43
NSW, 2761 posts
12 Oct 2018 10:54AM
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Gold!!!

waricle
QLD, 637 posts
12 Oct 2018 10:29PM
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Had a terrific couple of days with my grandchildren learning to sail at wello. I was fortunate enough to be able to borrow a learners rig from a mate and the kids took to sailing with ease. Did some initial theory, they got the feel of the sail on land and the big starboard start was the ideal board for the occasion. Aided by the ideal weather conditions both the 11 and 14 year old children were able to control the board and 2.5m rig with ease. I only wish we had that sort of gear when I started to learn ( and a cool grandpa to teach me)


Faff
VIC, 615 posts
13 Oct 2018 9:14AM
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Go on a windsurfing holiday to a place that has a kids program like Club Vass. Half of the instructors there went though the program. And the kids program instructors are cool freestyler teens, not daggy Dads.

sboardcrazy
NSW, 6357 posts
13 Oct 2018 5:14PM
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MikeyS said..
I have no pearls of wisdom how to get them involved in board sports, but whatever you do, please don't, I repeat DON"T, ever let them get involved with horses! (Unless you love horses more than them).

Too many windy afternoons spent in a paddock picking up horse poop, wishing I was sailing.


They didn't even pick up their own horses manure? How slack is that..

azzyish12
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14 Oct 2018 12:49AM
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azzyish12 said..

ginno said..
Hi All,

I had a pretty special day last weekend, went out on the water for the first time with my 4 y/o girl sitting by my feet in low winds on a big board. Dad was far more excited than she was!

She was worried at first but was ok when she could hold onto my legs,things got stressful again for her as I turned to return to shore (lowered rig and swung round via uphaul rope), we did 2 runs in and out and I didn't push it any further, I was pleased that on the second run she stood up while holding onto my leg!

Overall her highlight of the day were of course making a mermaid tail in the sand which is completely understandable. :)

Anyone have any stories on how they got their kids involved and when and how they introduced them onto the board? I know 4 is very young and I am in no way going to push her but it would be nice the share the experience together as she gets older. Was thinking maybe starting with taking her out on a SUP and then SUP surfing may be a better way to get her used to the water. Having her friends interested in a few years too I guess would help!

Cheers!



Anybody omegle.onl/ do any accounts on how they have googlehangouts.ooo/ their children included and when and how they presented them onto the board? I know 4 is extremely youthful and I am not the slightest bit going to push her yet it would be decent the offer the experience together as she gets more seasoned. Was thinking possibly beginning with taking her out on a SUP and after that SUP surfing might be a superior method to get her used to the water 8ballpool.onl/

ginno
VIC, 63 posts
15 Oct 2018 1:06PM
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Thank everyone for your insights I look forward to the day she is rigging up for me!
In the mean time its good to know that its ok to wait until the water temperature is at least above 15 degrees (as it is now in Port Phillip Bay) I'll post again as we progress. Ginno.

cammd
QLD, 1946 posts
16 Oct 2018 8:37AM
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ginno said..
Thank everyone for your insights I look forward to the day she is rigging up for me!


good luck with that, I have a 21yo, 16yo and 14yo who all windsurf, they are flat out rigging up their own gear



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