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ben mack

42 posts

ben mack

SA, 42 posts

4 Sep 2006 7:12pm

At Bogey lake on sat, I watched a kite surfer try to master his kite in a gusty off-shore 20-25kt day...... Funny? I almost wet my pants.... this clown lost his kite... and we all screamed with laughter as the kite vanished over the horizon.

Mark _australia

23684 posts

Mark _australia

WA, 23684 posts

4 Sep 2006 5:55pm

Good. Hopefully one less Johnny come lately "gee I'll try that cos it looks cool" dope-on-a-rope

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

4 Sep 2006 7:12pm

Sh1t happens.
Nobody died, that's the important thing.

md74

QLD

1064 posts

md74

QLD, 1064 posts

4 Sep 2006 9:41pm

you guys are sad! at least the guy was out there enjoying a nature driven sport, not ripping the **** up on a jet ski! I windsurf, I have no issue with kiters, the only issue I see is the huge walls built by the windsurf fraternity of the "us" and "them" crap, hey bodysurfers use the water as well, maybe we should hang **** on them, live and let live I say.

I always think it looks pretty awesome to see others out there smiling and having fun!

Just wait till I invent the Hover Boots.

Mark _australia

23684 posts

Mark _australia

WA, 23684 posts

4 Sep 2006 8:32pm

Guess you have never been out there in the waves, halfway thru a bottom turn and had lines wrap around you causing a big wipeout and $700 damage? Then you find out the ****stick kiter didn't start on the river or a lake, he went straight out into the bloody ocean and was having his 3rd go at it!!!
Or maybe you have not yet seen an intermediate windsurfer just happily on the plane for the first time and he gets taken out by a dope on a rope in 20 knots, who has not even yet flown the kite in 10kn in a park somewhere.

Never yet seen a surfer start out at an experts location, or a windsufer start out in the waves, yet the "yo-yo cuzzy bro' wicked filthy man yo mah bro" backwards-hat wearing idiots seem to have really taken to kiting. NO not all are liek that but there seems to be much higher percentage in teabagging than any other 'extreme' sport. The arguments that surfers hated windsurfers etc doesn't wash with me because by the time the surfers complained the windsurfers in the waves were so experienced they were safe and no threat to the surfers. Hmmmm.... maybe we should just chuck learner drivers in a V8 supercar on the freeway.

md74

QLD

1064 posts

md74

QLD, 1064 posts

4 Sep 2006 10:42pm

geez louise! get up me!

im just saying bro, its open slather on the water, sure everyone has to respect each other, but I also dont think YOU OWN THE WATER mate.

Im sure as sheeat you have pissed off others as well at some time without even knowing about it, surfer, fisherman etc etc

And, Im sure yes I will have the occassional mix up with a kiter, but it wont make me agro, I would still rather that than be home sitting on the lounge.

I guess my comment was originally made that I dont think its right to laugh at some guy trying to master a new sport, same as Im sure I or you wouldnt like a group of guys hangin crapola on me or you if out windsurfing, broke some kit and was drifting away.

With regards to learning to surf, go to Duranbah on the Gold Coast, one of the best surf beaches around, training ground for Occy, Parko, Fanning and so on, any day of the week there are always people learning to surf, its all about respect to others.

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

4 Sep 2006 8:58pm

quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Guess you have never been out there in the waves, halfway thru a bottom turn and had lines wrap around you causing a big wipeout and $700 damage?

hahahahah
You shouldn't drop-in on a kitesurfer, Mark.

md74

QLD

1064 posts

md74

QLD, 1064 posts

4 Sep 2006 11:13pm

carry a pair of scissors like the guy on The Wedge

Mark _australia

23684 posts

Mark _australia

WA, 23684 posts

4 Sep 2006 9:26pm

MD yes I agree I do not own the water. If I dropped in on some dude and ****ed his wave up I'd expect a smack in the mouth later (and deserve it too).

Trouble is the teabaggers don't seem to understand that, as many have not progressed thru the normal learning cycle. Rather many just go straight to the most crowded spot (maybe cos they think that is the best place to go???) and try to get straight into it and cause havoc in the process.

Good luck with the hover boots, hope they rip. Also hope they are hard to learn on to keep the d!ckheads out of the sport unlike the dope on a rope phenomenon

greenleader

QLD

5283 posts

greenleader

QLD, 5283 posts

4 Sep 2006 11:28pm

the best thing about wind sports is that you can drop in on any paddler but stay way ahead of their zone, the same applies to all wind and kite wakkers. if you have nous and skill you can avoid entering anyones comfort zone.
unless you enjoy conflict[}:)]
how about some waverage, tossers

kiterdan

680 posts

kiterdan

WA, 680 posts

4 Sep 2006 9:29pm

quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Guess you have never been out there in the waves, halfway thru a bottom turn and had lines wrap around you causing a big wipeout and $700 damage? Then you find out the ****stick kiter didn't start on the river or a lake, he went straight out into the bloody ocean and was having his 3rd go at it!!!
Or maybe you have not yet seen an intermediate windsurfer just happily on the plane for the first time and he gets taken out by a dope on a rope in 20 knots, who has not even yet flown the kite in 10kn in a park somewhere.

I suppose thats a reason to generalise all kitesurfers.

I have been dropped in on so many occasions by windsurfers at a well known break up north, I have started to lose count. I ALWAYS give way to sailors (be they kiters or windsurfers) who have right of way.

I have also nearly been run over by a few windsurfers only to pass with a little smile on their dial...thinking theyre the ****. One bloke, Angel or something, beared downwind nearly taking me out as I headed out.

Don't start up about stories of being at the receiving end of a beginner kiter when there are heaps of EXPERIENCED windsurfers purposely bringing a bad vibe into the fray.

Back to the topic though...the guy is a dickhead and I would laugh as well. Too many clowns taking up the sport cause its the 'in thing'.

md74

QLD

1064 posts

md74

QLD, 1064 posts

4 Sep 2006 11:33pm

ROFL! yep the Hover Boots are going to be big!

Hey Mark I will agree with you mate on the fact that the basics should be under control in easier locations. no doubt, and I will also agree with you how the sport seems to attract a large percentage of the "Sup dude" "yo yo dat sheeat is tight" wakeboarder style crowd.

Enjoy your summer in WA mate, hopefully we will get our monstruous 15-20 knot SE Qld days thru summer! obviously that is a joke to the wind levels we have

reiffo

147 posts

reiffo

SA, 147 posts

5 Sep 2006 8:52am

This Bloke at boggy on Sat was still learning and rocked up with some of his windsurfer mates. I rigged up along side him (and a large tiger snake) and given it was off shore asked him if he had a decent life insurance policy

He lost his kite almost straight away and I almost sailed into it a couple of times on some speed runs. I realised it was drifting when I saw the kiter swimming back to shore.
I chose not to grab his gear.
Am I bad?
He got his kite back but he had to paddle across to get it.

winddude

92 posts

winddude

WA, 92 posts

5 Sep 2006 8:12am

youre a bit sad mate

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

5 Sep 2006 8:21am

quote:
Originally posted by waveslave

quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia

Guess you have never been out there in the waves, halfway thru a bottom turn and had lines wrap around you causing a big wipeout and $700 damage?

hahahahah
You shouldn't drop-in on a kitesurfer, Mark.

Well,
Maybe you didn't drop-in, Mark.
I think you probably stepped on your dick and tripped yourself up.
lol

reiffo

147 posts

reiffo

SA, 147 posts

5 Sep 2006 12:37pm

Waveslave,
Are you saying mark has a big dick? Please dont turn this post gay. The point of this post is to take the mickey out a kitesurfer who is actually not a bad bloke but like all kite surfers is not welcome at boggy lake.

Mark _australia

23684 posts

Mark _australia

WA, 23684 posts

5 Sep 2006 10:08pm

Well actually I do

but let's not get O-T.

Mr Slave it seems you are out here on your own in this thread, defending the indefensible. Seems there are not too many examples of some d!ckhead windsurfers going out in gnarly conditions when they don't know the basics ........ but plenty of kitesurfing examples!!! Ruin everybody else's fun, and I wonder who rescues them? Boaties, windsurfers etc do. Can't see too many kite types paddling a wakeboard 500m+ to help out the clueless newbies.
Maybe you, Wslave, are one of the sensible ones, having windsurfed before, so you sensibly followed the 'natural' learning progression when you moved to kites? You must admit a great many ppl do NOT.

Wasssuuuupppp yo mah brah you is so kewwl duuude. Filthy one handed rail grab inverted whizzer ... oh hang on you've never done kited before and were just trying to dump excess wind from the teabag???

PS any ladies impressed by Mr Slave's glowing endorsement of my manly capabilities can msg me on seabreeze.

kiterdan

680 posts

kiterdan

WA, 680 posts

5 Sep 2006 10:21pm

Mark,

As I said, don't generalise us (don't even put waveslave into the same equation). I know it shouldn't be responsibility, but if you see some bloke doing something stupid, approach him and tell him so. It doesn't take much to be a little more proactive instead of sitting behind your computer desk blabbing ****. Most will listen and if they don't and they take someone out, smack them around the head.

If you're not aware, a majority of kiters will tell the newbies when they're not doing the right thing...even the more experienced kiters like the influx of euros every year.

By the way, you don't own the waves or the lakes or the ocean so get over yourselves...the surfers had to do the same thing...seems they've moved on, why don't you.

bilbo

2 posts

bilbo

2 posts

6 Sep 2006 12:08am

why is it always the polesurfers having a dig about the kiters? i don't polesurf. why? because all i ever see is a bunch of winging babies with a superiority complex, lacking the basic interpersonal skills required to progress in a social atmosphere, your conceited views only serving to display one thing....you're a bunch of f***ing jerks.
so you have two choices, keep your heads there staring at the decomposing food and bile pretending its 20 years ago when windsurfing was the latest and greatest sport on the water,
or you can pull your heads out your arses, take a look around and, dare i suggest it, engage in a little social conversation with kitesurfers.

sideshow75

QLD

25 posts

sideshow75

QLD, 25 posts

6 Sep 2006 7:25am

Windsurf/Kitesurf it doesn't matter, if you collide with someone on the water or cut them off you're incompetent that's it.

If everyone pays attention to where they are going and who's around them before trying some manouvre, everyting will be fine.

Remember the guy next to you has every right to be there, same as you. Doesn't matter if he's crap, if he is crap,GIVE HIM ROOM for your sake and his.

I've read this type of thread so many times it bores me to tears!!
ENJOY YOUR SPORT AND DONT F#%K UP OTHER PEOPLES FUN

Chris 249

NSW

3585 posts

Chris 249

NSW, 3585 posts

6 Sep 2006 8:26am

quote:
Originally posted by bilbo

why is it always the polesurfers having a dig about the kiters? i don't polesurf. why? because all i ever see is a bunch of winging babies with a superiority complex, lacking the basic interpersonal skills required to progress in a social atmosphere, your conceited views only serving to display one thing....you're a bunch of f***ing jerks.
so you have two choices, keep your heads there staring at the decomposing food and bile pretending its 20 years ago when windsurfing was the latest and greatest sport on the water,
or you can pull your heads out your arses, take a look around and, dare i suggest it, engage in a little social conversation with kitesurfers.

Looks like you have a superiority complex yourself, frankly.

I sail boats at a place now popular with kiters. The kiters do not engage in social conversation with us; they don't talk to us apart from asking for rescue and then, after stuffing up the entire race (because we can't race while the start boat is rescuing kiters) never offering to pay for the fuel used.

Crash Landing

NSW

1173 posts

Crash Landing

NSW, 1173 posts

6 Sep 2006 8:42am

My 2 cents worth:

I grew up racing lasers and 420's at a national level (and did pretty well

) but noticed that the windsurfers at the time always flew past me and so swapped sports. From my time racing boats I believe I know more about the rules of the sea than most people (apart from people who also race boats).

I have had my fair share of close calls with fellow windsurfers, especially intermediates. They don't know starboard from port, don't know about the windward rules, they ALWAYS fail to steer a straight course when on starboard and often forget to look behind them before trying to turn.

As for "teabaggers" I have found them consistently unable to look behind them before doing jumps and turns, i have often had to go on a crazy 50m downwind death run to avoid kites and lines and i can't relax as much when they're about because they take up so much bleedin room. The amount of times i have been windsurfing along thinking of attempting a freestyle trick and then i notice a kiter in the water, then 15 metres away i spot a wakeboard, then kite another 30 metres away and have to quickly work out where the lines are!

Nothing wrong with kiters, it would just be worth EVERYONE knowing the rules of the sea and waves!

waveslave

4263 posts

waveslave

WA, 4263 posts

6 Sep 2006 8:01am

quote:
Originally posted by Mark _australia
Maybe you, Wslave, are one of the sensible ones, having windsurfed before, so you sensibly followed the 'natural' learning progression when you moved to kites? You must admit a great many ppl do NOT.

Who me....sensible ??

Hey reiffo,
Who died and made you bosshog of Boggy Lake ?
lol
The Kooks of Hazzard County.
Where is Boggy Lake anyway....South Oz ?

But back to greenhorn kite**** in the break....
Mark knows very well that greenhorn newbie kiters don't learn in the surf.
He's just pissing in our pockets after stepping on his dick.
Newbies like the safety of the flats.
Rivers, estuaries, lakes and lagoons.....
In the mind of a noob, the world is flat.
A newbie kiter has his hands full just flying a kite.
If you added breaking surf to his erratic equation, he'd go into meltdown.
It's called sensory overload and it ends up a trainwreck.

But referring to Marks above quote:
I fully agree that alot of sailors do not follow the natural progression when stepping up to waves.
Flatwater poleys and kiters with a few seasons under their belts need to learn the drill.
Until you get your wave skills dialled, stay off the main peak and hang downwind in the junk-surf for awhile.
Happy wavesailing.

reiffo

147 posts

reiffo

SA, 147 posts

6 Sep 2006 1:18pm

Slave,

Yep, your right. Boggy Lake is in SA. Its a paddock in the middle of nowhere that has been classed by the council as a windsurfing reserve. There are no trees or facilities, just reeds, snakes, cows and salt bush. There are a core group of about 30 windsurfers that make up the Boggy Lake community and everyone has a great time with excellent sailing conditions on offer. We have a number of Kiters who also use this reserve and adhere to the informal common sense rules we have and they are all great guys. Like all local spots its the blowin's that give us the grief.
We had a guy drown nearby a few months ago after choosing to try to swim back to shore and abanding his gear and I believe that the kiter on the weekend made the same mistake of going after his gear and risking his life and his mates. A couple of us sailed past his kite but chose not to try and stop it as it would have put us and our gear at risk. The last thing we need is for some idiot to injure/kill them selves at a council reserve and have them shut it down.
Cheers

racycoot

315 posts

racycoot

WA, 315 posts

6 Sep 2006 12:01pm

did the guy drown 'nearby' or 'nearly'?

reiffo

147 posts

reiffo

SA, 147 posts

6 Sep 2006 2:38pm

He became exhausted from swimming and died in the reeds as his son went for help.

ben mack

42 posts

ben mack

SA, 42 posts

6 Sep 2006 6:30pm

WOW!.... looklike I started somthing. I'm down the Kite Kids.... I just thought this guy was piss funny

md74

QLD

1064 posts

md74

QLD, 1064 posts

6 Sep 2006 7:20pm

geez ben, your a real trouble maker lol

roach

25 posts

roach

WA, 25 posts

6 Sep 2006 8:04pm

to see my thoughts on the subject see my post OK WIND TODAY

stamp

QLD

2798 posts

stamp

QLD, 2798 posts

9 Sep 2006 12:07am

dinghy sailors used to fling this sort of narrow minded s**t when windsurfing was in its infancy, but most windsurfers seem to have forgotten, and take the same holier than thou attitude towards the next new wind sport- kiteboarding.
i am a kiter and have called starboard on plenty of windsurfers ,i usually get a blank look in reply and have to give way to avoid a collision.

Crash Landing

NSW

1173 posts

Crash Landing

NSW, 1173 posts

9 Sep 2006 9:52am

stamp, quick question:

if you're on a wakeboard where you don't change your feet when turning, how can you tell if your port or starboard? Kiters don't use both sides of the kite or both sides of the board (do they? Seems like they stick to the heel edge most of the time).

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