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raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
1 Sep 2010 3:57am
Hi guys, as I said in my previous post I am new to this sport but I was a kitesurfer before. I know all the basic rules about sailing and how to stand on a board or how to sail up and downwind.
I am self learning Windsurf and I am just wondering how a bad windsurfer I will be without getting professional lessons.
Unfortunately in my country there is nobody interested in this sport so there are no teacher or windsurfers.
Is it possible to learn windsurf just by practice and video-lessons?
How long should it take before you can jibe without falling in the water 100 times in an hour?
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
1 Sep 2010 6:41am
I learnt to gybe by watching teh old Peter Hart Carve Clinic on VHS.
I came out OK.
THere are no lessons to speak of here is Oz, and while it is certainly a barrier, we all got over it.
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
1 Sep 2010 7:20am
I think it depends on your personality.

Some people can introspect, and perform out-of-body experience whilst watching videos. or something like that.
I believe that for the right person, watching the right instructions and intellectualising them can get you all the way to at least basic freestyle - in time.

Some just can't and need person-instructions. Those may learn just as fast.
OceanBlue64
OceanBlue64
VIC
980 posts
VIC, 980 posts
1 Sep 2010 8:38am
Get yourself a copy of 'Beginner to Winner' dvd. It is an excellent easy to follow instructional dvd done by Jem Hall.
raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
1 Sep 2010 7:40am
Thanks guys, I will look for that DVD right away.
I found also some very good lessons on UTube, but I have found also some people that do not know what they are talking about at all ...
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7279 posts
WA, 7279 posts
1 Sep 2010 7:40pm
raffaeu said...

but I have found also some people that do not know what they are talking about at all ...



sorry, have we met ?


raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
1 Sep 2010 11:21pm
xCarantoc is true, sometimes you find people on YouTube which try to act as Wind Guru but they aren't. I didn't say anything wrong, didn't I?
Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
5000 posts
VIC, 5000 posts
2 Sep 2010 9:30am
As OB64 said, get your hands on some Peter Hart vids. Beginner to Winner is the pick, also Turn for the Better...list goes on. Very clear instructions.
KenHo
KenHo
NSW
1353 posts
NSW, 1353 posts
2 Sep 2010 10:08am
No, you did not say anything wrong, that's just aussie humour

raffaeu said...

xCarantoc is true, sometimes you find people on YouTube which try to act as Wind Guru but they aren't. I didn't say anything wrong, didn't I?


deXtrous
deXtrous
NSW
451 posts
NSW, 451 posts
2 Sep 2010 11:52am
Actually he said something quite wrong. Who seriously goes back to pole dribbling after they're a kiter?
roberto
roberto
NSW
190 posts
NSW, 190 posts
2 Sep 2010 12:18pm
Bisexual coming back for some hetro action
deXtrous said...

Actually he said something quite wrong. Who seriously goes back to pole dribbling after they're a kiter?


evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
2 Sep 2010 1:02pm
I had one lesson. Now I learn by watching and imitating.
K Dog
K Dog
VIC
1847 posts
VIC, 1847 posts
2 Sep 2010 1:04pm
deXtrous said...

Actually he said something quite wrong. Who seriously goes back to pole dribbling after they're a kiter?


Bit like Bodyboarders deciding they want to finally stand up and surf.

It's called Evolution

Don't worry deXtrous - when the student is ready - the windsurfing kit will arrive.
raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
3 Sep 2010 1:09am
Guys I didn't want to open a "wind kit competition" ...
I have 'found' the DVD and it's really well done!
By the way, I kite for 2 years and I saw too many friends get injured and hill due to wrong lines setup, bad weather and co. so that I decided to move to windsurf, which looks to me more safe and less painful ... I mean who will spend 1 hour to blow up or take a part everything when with the windsurf in 10 mins you are all setup??
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
3 Sep 2010 7:23am
OK, I bite: how do you compare the two sports-wise?
If your goal was to stay fit and work out, which ?

Some local kiters have told me that kiting is harder a sport, which I find diff to believe, mind you haven't and won't try it.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8345 posts
NSW, 8345 posts
3 Sep 2010 11:41am
raffaeu said...

Guys I didn't want to open a "wind kit competition" ...
I have 'found' the DVD and it's really well done!
By the way, I kite for 2 years and I saw too many friends get injured and hill due to wrong lines setup, bad weather and co. so that I decided to move to windsurf, which looks to me more safe and less painful ... I mean who will spend 1 hour to blow up or take a part everything when with the windsurf in 10 mins you are all setup??



Thats interesting.. I always got the idea that kiting was quicker to set up.. Oh well you live & learn.I suppose at least we don't need someone to be there to help launch etc which is an advantage as I usually sail alone.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23674 posts
WA, 23674 posts
3 Sep 2010 11:20am
DVD's are all good but it is much better to have a teacher, just like this one




(By just like this one, I mean with a blackboard and stuff, very helpful)
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8345 posts
NSW, 8345 posts
3 Sep 2010 5:25pm
Mark _australia said...

DVD's are all good but it is much better to have a teacher, just like this one




(By just like this one, I mean with a blackboard and stuff, very helpful)


Doesn't do much for me..
raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
3 Sep 2010 7:59pm
xMark MEGA ROFTL ... I wish I could learn from her ...
Well IMHO Kite is harder to learn and less safe ... If you break the kite in the middle of the ocean, like here ... there you are, you can't easily go back home.
Now, at least, I have a huge 200 board which float very well ...
About the painful, especially here, kiter are still seen as bad guys because the space in Bermuda is small and tourist and kiter do not fit well in the same spot, if you get what I mean.
Finally, no windsurf is not harder to learn, from my point of view kiting is more difficult to learn than windsurfing for sure ...
The only way to compare the two sports is to try both of them.
Anyway we are having now 2 hurricanes so this long week-end is waisted ... I was already planning to spend the whole week-end on the beack with my gear ....
CROWEMAN
CROWEMAN
VIC
268 posts
VIC, 268 posts
3 Sep 2010 10:32pm
Mark _australia said...

DVD's are all good but it is much better to have a teacher, just like this one




(By just like this one, I mean with a blackboard and stuff, very helpful)


She works in Coles on the fish counter in Hampton. Deirdre. Didn't know she gave lessons too
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23674 posts
WA, 23674 posts
3 Sep 2010 9:05pm
raffaeu said...

Anyway we are having now 2 hurricanes so this long week-end is waisted ... I was already planning to spend the whole week-end on the beack with my gear ....


It won't be long before you look forward to the hurricanes!!
Another reason windsurfing is better than kiting!
pierrec45
pierrec45
NSW
2005 posts
NSW, 2005 posts
3 Sep 2010 11:38pm
Mark, let me get this right: she's teaching you things she does,
so you can do them too, is that it ?


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