Bugger!

From Waterways:
Sailboards/Kite Surfers

Exempted from carrying safety equipment when within 400m of the nearest shore. if the sailboarder or kite surfer is not within 400m of the nearest shore, he/she must wear a lifejacket type 2 or 3.

Now I'll have to go & get a GPS so I know when I'm 400m from shore - & chuck a U-ey.

are you a complete and utter ****wit?
wearing lifejackets is very stupid and dangerous?
mate you can drown in a ****ing cup of water.
so you would prefer to get ****ed up and sink rather than having a chance of stayin alive all due to a lifejacket.
if your lifejacket actually fits you swimming is hardly impaired.
if you are jumping in 35knots your board will get blown away from you so ****all chance of it landing on you.
you are prob one of thos dicks who thinks 15knots is 35 and think your a hard **** coz your still on your 6m sail you gimp.
i honestly dont care whether people wear them or not, but making dumass remarks like that leaves you with 0 credibility and looking like a dikweed

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Originally posted by rosey

are you a complete and utter ****wit?
wearing lifejackets is very stupid and dangerous?
mate you can drown in a ****ing cup of water.
so you would prefer to get ****ed up and sink rather than having a chance of stayin alive all due to a lifejacket.
if your lifejacket actually fits you swimming is hardly impaired.
if you are jumping in 35knots your board will get blown away from you so ****all chance of it landing on you.
you are prob one of thos dicks who thinks 15knots is 35 and think your a hard **** coz your still on your 6m sail you gimp.
i honestly dont care whether people wear them or not, but making dumass remarks like that leaves you with 0 credibility and looking like a dikweed

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Ease up Tiger... Read Kato's post again. Didn't see a mention of WIND speed in there anywhere...

Pugs

got myself 1 of the pryde float vests last year to help offsett some lead i was wearing for speed sailing and can honestly say it is actually a pleasure to use even when iam not carrying weight, the advantages being- nice and stream line,added boyancy for waterstarting or swimming,some protection from impact to the front and back (should have been wearing it in november when i cracked some ribs!!)and this particular model although not pfd 1 or 2 is excepted for races here in wa. it also has pockets for spare bits and pieces like flares and gps etc and comes with a(removable) camel pac thingo on the back as well to quench the thirst. i dont know how it would go if you use a waist harness but with a seat harness no probs and still small enough to give full flexibility while sailing.
i personally dont see to many disadvantages to wearing 1 like this if you are sailing slalom or speed, waves and freestyle are obviously a nother story.

It i deffently easier for water starting except at Goolwa where i got dun, other than about 20m of channel, it's like knee to waist deep. Plus when i sailed around at the barrage there was about 20cm of water.

I and another guy that sails with me, thinks that if you are sailing in water that is that shallow, a life jacket is actually more dangerous (and annoying). When i fall off still hooked in, i quite often end up underneith the sail. I have to un hook and get out as soon as i can holding my breath in just shallow water, which makes it harder. If i was to be waring a life jacket, this process would be much harder and longer, making it much more dangerous and even worse if i start to pannic. Floating up would make it hard to un hook and hard to get under the boom or upwards to the top of the sail.

I personally think at Goolwa in the Murray where there next to no water, a life jacket is the worst idea possible. They are uncomfortable and can be more dangerous. Mabey off a beach wheree you cant ever stand up they would be very useful for water starting, but for shallow water theres absolutely no point.

I still cannot work out why we have to ware them and surfers don't though. They are in deeper and more dangerous waters anyway.

bubs

Dear rosey
sorry you couldn,t read my post.I,m a speedsailer and even you can do 35ks in 20kt wind easy. Ps I was talking about the "safety" of life jackets

I think we need the water police to let us make our own decission on what we think is safe and our own preference on wether we think we need a life jacket or not. Some people like them and some don't, so there shouldn't be any law against it.

Yet i still am not exactly of the law in SA. Is it law to ware a life jacket and if so, why don't surfers need them?

bubs

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Originally posted by bubs


Yet i still am not exactly of the law in SA. Is it law to ware a life jacket and if so, why don't surfers need them?

bubs

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Aha! Knew I would find it if I looked hard enough! If you thought "Borat" was outrageous/funny, then read this little gem from the Marine Safety Equipment section of the Government of South Australia Department for Transport, Engergy and Infrastructure website at www.sa.gov.au/topics/driving-and-transport

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Exemptions

The safety equipment requirements apply to the majority of boats. However, certain types of boat are either partially or totally exempt from these requirements. Some of the more common exemptions are summarised below.

Canoes, kayaks, sailboards and similar small, unpowered boats must have for each occupant

* PFD that complies with Australian Standards and worn at all times
* suitable bailer (unless the hull is permanently enclosed)
* waterproof torch or lantern while being operated during the hours of darkness.

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It would appear from my reading of it, in terms of the law in South Aus at least, "surfboards" don't come under the definition of "boats" whereas "sailboards" do!
That's law for you!

Goolwa lake is pretty murky Bubs, how do you know where you can stand up and where you cant? I think you are pretty unlucky to have been pulled up by authorities, but the law is there for a reason. Like seat belts really, some people dont like wearing them but in some (most)cases they can save your life in an accident.

divaldo:
I have been sailing at goolwa since i was 6 and have never really worn a life jacket. After going there for this long i know within 10 or so metres where the channels are (two of them. one near hindmarsh island and one about 15m from beach launching from the aquacaff. Each about 20m wide.)

Around at the barrage where i usually sail, until you reach about 50m from hindmarsh island, it is knee deep or less in all places. This is why i find a life jacket very annoying and i personally hate getting stuck under my sail where i cannot breath.

When i have been sailing there for so long and know where to sail to avoid these channels, i don't think i need some person in a boat telling to ware a life jacket in waist deep water. I think windsurfers should be treated exactly like surfers and should be left to make their own decission. However i think they would help in water where you can never stand up. Goolwa is one of the safest places to sail because if you do get in trouble you always drift to shore.

One guy who snapped his boom a couple hundred metres from shore and walked back the whole way around at the barrage. This is why i find life jackets unneccesary.

Bubs

P.S: Are kitesurfers treated the same as windsurfers. Do they have to ware a life jacket?

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Originally posted by jack1574

I wear an AS1512 PFD1 which is about the highest you get. Its so small I don't even notice it anymore.

looks like this :

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mine is the manual version, wouldn't want it going off prematurely :)

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These are a good idea....