I am thinking of expanding my kit to cover really light winds..Does any one have any opions on this.. maybe something like a hypersonic with 8+ sails what does it take to make these perfrom in light winds 10 t0 15
Does anyone rent this gear ???
Has any resorted to this in light wind desparation
Formula gear is the best peformer in light winds, but its pretty extreme, I've tried most of the gear out there, and nothing planes like formula gear in light wind, but I must admit I don't really like to sail my formula gear coz it feels too extreme, and you need deep water, because of fin length. But if you wanna plane in the lightest of winds Formula is the go.
But to give you an idea of what I think Formula is like, the last couple of days I could have got planing on my Formula gear, did I go out? No!!!!!! I would rather not windsurf , than windsurf on Formula?
So on one hand I'm saying Formula and on the other I'm saying it's crap! Go figure, when a nut case like me even tries to give a serious response it still makes no sense, it'll turn into a comdey thread in a minute.
What makes Formula plane so early you ask? First it's width, 1 metre wide, the laws of physics determine that a wide hull needs less wind to plane in and can plane at a lower speed, so anything less than the 1m will not plane as early, Laws of Physics, don't listen to other bullschit. Second is Hull shape most hulls are dead flat for 100cm so that is the fastest planing hull shape although others will claim concaves, but look at bottoms of Formula boards. Third Length of Fin, On Formula Boards, Fins are long and straight about 70cm. Again Laws of physics state that a long straight wing span will give greatest lift, look at design of glider planes, all based on long wing spans, Again Laws of Physics. Fourth Then you get to powerful rigs eetc.
G'Day Paddy, Windsurfing WA have got a strong crew of Formula sailors and are looking to hold a heap of regular Formula events next season - in conjunction with Nedlands Yacht Club. It's pretty social, with BBQ's and drinks after racing and it's a brilliant location (views and deep water). If you'd like to know more - drop us an email Regards Dan Engdahl On behalf of WWA
I'm not saying sailing Formula is easy... I bought one a season ago and I'm still trying to figure it out.
My initial reason for going big was for those real light wind days when I wasn't working but needed to get out there on the water and plane. Formula does that, and very well.
But like any new discipline, it's hard work. But it's starting to click and I'm having fun touring around the Swan River, from Point Walter to the Narrows, stopping off to see my sailing mates at Applecross, Majestic and Pelican Point.
My preference would still be a 20 knot + slalom day on the river, or a 3 meter day at Gnaraloo, but I'm telling ya, I've started enjoying the fun and games of the Formula racing WWA's been orchestrating... social, yet demanding on the water.
I don't know if I'll ever get on top of this big board and massive sail, but there aren't many week-ends where I'm sitting on the beach waiting for a puff of wind to give me my adrenaline hit.
I have a 9.8m RS4 and a formula 136 and I have to admitt that after playing with everything so it feels comfortable and your body adapts to the greater load , it is quite good fun. It feels small after a while (until you drop it) Next year I look forwards to joining Nedlands yacht club and racing regularly.
Or you could all wait for the new Olympic board ,the Neil Pryde RSX. With a big enough fleet we will attract Olympic coaches, and proper funding to for those good enough to get to different events. These boards will race in lots less than 8 knots as well. We will be getting a couple at the South Perth YC next season for sure.
i was talking to belinda stowell the other day about the rsx's and she said that there would be no chance of donated or sponsored kits from the WAYF for at least another 3 years or something.
Just go Kiting. Its cheaper than formula and its a great lite wind option. (Especially for wave sailors who don't like just going in and out). btw I windsurf too so don't kill me.
I rode a 9m raf sail on a bic formula board for 3 years and have had so much fun. I found it such a buzz to go out in 9 knots, the water is always smooth, I could point upwind and go places I never thought of going before.
For ages after I got the gear I would sail in the morning befor the breeze really got up, still love it but have got into kiting and I am kiting in light breeze although wind is more prone to dropping when light and it's no fun trying to come into shore with kite in no wind. I am a glutten for punnishment I'll go out in anything.
everytime i think about buying freeride/formula gear for those light wind days on the river, i just cant do it id rather spend my money on gear that will get me riding waves buying the latest wave sail or wave board and even those spare bits and pieces are a priority thats where my heart, passion and addiction is if i was given formula gear i wouldnt say no plus i do work full time, have a wife, two year old daughter and a boy due to be born in july which is all very exciting being able to sail 3/5 days a week during the season as is must mean i have the best wife in the world changing that to 7 days a week just for formula gear is not worth disturbing a good thing
Does the Formula club have any open days etc or offer hire gear for prospective racers. I think i would like to give it a go and am interested in racing. but would like to try before i buy so to speak .
Hey Paddy, at the moment i'm planing to have a kinda winter race/open day to get membership signups sometime in July, with the hope of monthly winter club racing(possibly starting b4 that). we will advertise this closer to the time.
If any shops want to come to party and bring a kit down for demo etc. they are more than welcome to do so.
Hey Bertie, I would guess that you have just limited your options with the shops that may have brought some formula gear for demo and supported your winter race series.
Hi all. I bought a second hand formula kit about 6 months ago, just to be able to spend more time on the water (in Sydney).
A couple of observations (no science behind this, just my opinion). 1. If you just want a formula kit for crusing (rather than racing), it can be quite cost-competitive. I think the pro-racers only use brand new gear, so as soon as next season gear comes out, their previous year's gear comes on the market quite cheap. As there aren't many serious racers buying second hand gear, there appears to be a lot of 1-season-old gear in good nick, and ideal for recreational windsurfing. 2. It's great for fitness - Holding up (or down) an 11.5m sail is hard work, and will get you grunting, sweating (and perhaps swearing)!!. Think of it as a good weights session, with some fun thrown in for good measure. Certainly increases your strength and fitness, increasing time on the water when you get back onto slalom gear in higher winds. 3. It teaches you a lot about rig tuning. With such huge gear, you don't have the strength to 'muscle' the sail if the tuning/balance is not quite right. Any slight tuning errors manifest themselves as a considerable pull/imbalance in the rig (because of the huge sail size). Thus, you can correct them on the formula gear, but even better, it helps me to pick up on the much more imperceptible tunning errors on my smaller sails, where the indicators are alot more subtle, and can be masked by simply muscling the sail excessively.
Overall, I'm very happy to have a formula kit to get out in the 8-12 knot range. I'll even rig it with a 9.5 for the 12-15 knot range, if I don't feel like pumping my slalom board onto the plane every time. (100kg sailor) The only downer is that the kit is HUGE. It's a real effort to get it all to fit in the car.