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divaldo
divaldo
SA
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SA, 2879 posts
15 Feb 2008 3:07pm
Please get onto this peoples, if this bill passes we will be sitting on the beach at Kanaha in July watching fat americans swim in the ocean, while epic sailing conditions continue out on the reefs!

Read this link to Giampaolos blog as well, sums it up way better than I could!

mauisurfreport.blogspot.com/

Urgent Information
This STATE of HAWAII bill will kill the windsurf business and could shut down sailing from our beaches, private land or public! (as if Vacation rentals wasn't bad enough!)

Please write a simple e-mail stating you oppose it.

Testimony may be emailed if less than 5 pages in length, to the Legislature's Public Access Room at [email protected]. Please indicate to which committee the testimony is being submitted and the date and time of the hearing.

COMMITTEE ON WATER AND LAND
DATE: Friday, February 15, 2008
TIME: 2:45 p.m.
stribo
stribo
QLD
1628 posts
QLD, 1628 posts
15 Feb 2008 2:50pm
From all i've heard of the place i have no desire to go there...BUT BEWARE AUSTRALIA!!!!!! These sorts of rules comming to a beach near you Slowly but surely your freedoms are being eroded.The "NO ...." and "By order of ...." signs are getting more and more plentyfull....
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
15 Feb 2008 3:29pm
stribo said...

From all i've heard of the place i have no desire to go there...BUT BEWARE AUSTRALIA!!!!!! These sorts of rules comming to a beach near you Slowly but surely your freedoms are being eroded.The "NO ...." and "By order of ...." signs are getting more and more plentyfull....


Maui is the best windsurfing destination I have ever been too, would be such a shame to have the opportunity to sail there taken away.

laff77
laff77
NSW
273 posts
NSW, 273 posts
15 Feb 2008 4:07pm
Spent two weeks there in July '06. Was the best holiday I have ever had. Such great place to sail! Total windsurfing paradise... Heaps of wind, sunshine, tropical blue water and pretty friendly locals. Would be such a shame to lose this spot.

Stribo: Agree with the increasing proliferation of DON'T signs. It's actually quite ironic. We Australian's regard ourselves as so laid back, in reality we are nearly one of the most rule driven countries on the planet. Shame really.
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
15 Feb 2008 3:44pm
laff77 said...

Spent two weeks there in July '06. Was the best holiday I have ever had. Such great place to sail! Total windsurfing paradise... Heaps of wind, sunshine, tropical blue water and pretty friendly locals. Would be such a shame to lose this spot.

Stribo: Agree with the increasing proliferation of DON'T signs. It's actually quite ironic. We Australian's regard ourselves as so laid back, in reality we are nearly one of the most rule driven countries on the planet. Shame really.


We were there in June 06 for two weeks! best holiday ever!

yoyo
yoyo
WA
1646 posts
WA, 1646 posts
15 Feb 2008 3:00pm
Not sure about this one. 200 feet is 61 metres. When I sail I don't like it when Kiters pop jumps upwind of me. I can imagine if I was a swimmer I'd be even less enthused. But I have never been to Maui so have no idea how it would work in practice. I suppose it wouldn't take too many swimmer/surfers at a beach to exclude Kites and Sail boarders completely.
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
15 Feb 2008 5:09pm
yoyo said...

Not sure about this one. 200 feet is 61 metres. When I sail I don't like it when Kiters pop jumps upwind of me. I can imagine if I was a swimmer I'd be even less enthused. But I have never been to Maui so have no idea how it would work in practice. I suppose it wouldn't take too many swimmer/surfers at a beach to exclude Kites and Sail boarders completely.


This is the issue, Hookipa already has a 10 surfers = no sailing rule on the main break, Kanaha has a no sailing before 11am rule that is self regulated, works a treat. With these new rules one person in the sea will mean 120 odd metres of beach will be unusable! Kanaha is a long beach, but not that long.

PS: Kanaha also has a roped off area for general swimming, why cant this be enough?

AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
3621 posts
WA, 3621 posts
15 Feb 2008 4:19pm
"Bizarre" would be an understatement if windsurfing was effectively banned on Maui - the world's greatest windsurfing destination, so I'm very skeptical that this would actually happen.

Maui has endless beautiful, protected swimming beaches, so why would anyone want to prevent sailing at Kanaha in favour of swimming? Who wants to swim at a beach where the wind blows 30 odd knots for 300+ days per year??

That's without considering that there are no hotels and very few houses anywhere near it, and there are aircraft screaming overhead every five minutes.

To the swimmers I say - "Ka'anapali's over there!"
choco
choco
SA
4186 posts
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15 Feb 2008 5:53pm
great......WA will boom
NSW, 1613 posts
15 Feb 2008 6:25pm
But not in June, July, and August........
Susie
Susie
SA
837 posts
SA, 837 posts
15 Feb 2008 6:04pm
divaldo said...

stribo said...

From all i've heard of the place i have no desire to go there...BUT BEWARE AUSTRALIA!!!!!! These sorts of rules comming to a beach near you Slowly but surely your freedoms are being eroded.The "NO ...." and "By order of ...." signs are getting more and more plentyfull....


Maui is the best windsurfing destination I have ever been too, would be such a shame to have the opportunity to sail there taken away.



End of November 06. Great place. Great sailing. On both sides. Great health food shop. Excellent/value for money windsurfing hire. Would be a shame.
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
15 Feb 2008 6:05pm
Strange things happening in Maui these days....this bill had better not get up!
Gybesports
Gybesports
NSW
193 posts
NSW, 193 posts
15 Feb 2008 6:36pm
I'm most bumbed off about not being able to rent our great house at sprecks this year. Sounds just like Manly council . Maui the retirement village!!!!
dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
WA, 2562 posts
15 Feb 2008 4:59pm
never ceases to amaze me, the inteligence of politicians. especially over there. I wonder if those same peanut pollies ever look up the coast around Kanaha and realise that each one of those "dangerous" sails and kites each brings $5000US to the maui economy each year. I wouldnt be surprised if they pass the bill, especially after what I saw there last year, nothing would surprise me.
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
15 Feb 2008 8:58pm
dan berry said...

never ceases to amaze me, the inteligence of politicians. especially over there. I wonder if those same peanut pollies ever look up the coast around Kanaha and realise that each one of those "dangerous" sails and kites each brings $5000US to the maui economy each year. I wouldnt be surprised if they pass the bill, especially after what I saw there last year, nothing would surprise me.



Most of the politicians would live on Oahu so they will not be affected by a loss of revenue due to less windsurfing tourists going there. They are probably eying the possibility of upmarket tourism and cashed up retiries moving there too. This is despite the fact that windsurfer tourists probably spend more money while they are there than a couple who spend all their time at a five star resort.

What is interesting is AFAIK windsurfing has been very popular on Maui since the early eighties. So beaches there have over twenty five years of windsurfing. However it sounds like in the last few years windsurfers are suffering restrictions and are unable to access the water.

Why is this so? Are there more beach users now than what there used to be? Are windsurfers acting like inconsiderate idiots on the water? Whats the deal?
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
16 Feb 2008 2:41am
I can't seem to open the original link about whatever's going on in Maui.

I say, chaps, could one of you please paste the text on here?
Spotty
Spotty
VIC
1619 posts
VIC, 1619 posts
16 Feb 2008 1:18pm
This hardly surprising for the US, apparently in Hawaii you can be fined if you dont own a boat, check out the other parts to this vid for other crazy laws they have



I wonder if windsurfing from the beach 'violates the the rights and liberties gauranteed under the Hawaii State Constitution'???




Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
16 Feb 2008 12:54pm
stribo said...

From all i've heard of the place i have no desire to go there...


Hardly the windsurfing spirit mate, anybody would think you were a teabag

We should all be concerned about any place being closed to windsurfing regardless of whether we like it ourselves or would ever want to go there, let alone it being the birthplace of our obsession.

The fact that I am going in July has absolutely nothing to do with it!
AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
3621 posts
WA, 3621 posts
16 Feb 2008 11:28am
Spotty, I have checked with my US based colleagues, and apparently it is permissable to not own a boat, so long as you are carrying a gun...
Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
NSW
174 posts
NSW, 174 posts
16 Feb 2008 1:40pm
I would not be surprised if the politicians on Oahu just wanted to get their hands on some cheap property after the windsurfing industry collapses. After all the only people to miss this industry is windsurfers.
Zubby
Zubby
SA
896 posts
SA, 896 posts
16 Feb 2008 4:21pm
What crap, I was in Maui also in 2006, what a great place. The place is a buzz.

I was surfing the net on Friday and could not believe what I was reading on maui surf report site.

Windsurfing needs Maui and we need it.

dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
WA, 2562 posts
16 Feb 2008 7:33pm
aparently the verdict has been deffered. Hasnt been thrown out but they had enough response to the bill that they are reconsidering it. Hopefully sanity will prevail
Arlo
Arlo
SA
139 posts
SA, 139 posts
16 Feb 2008 11:54pm
Unfortunately there is no indication of when it is to be deferred until; hopefully at least until after July!
dan berry
dan berry
WA
2562 posts
WA, 2562 posts
20 Feb 2008 5:48pm
if anyone is intersted they can check the footage of the hearing at www.mauiwindsurfing.net . Interesting thing was that the whole thing was caused by one person asking the local mp to propose the bill!?! Luckily the powers that be received the thousands of emails in protest, and decided to can it. Reinstates my faith in democracy
stribo
stribo
QLD
1628 posts
QLD, 1628 posts
20 Feb 2008 7:00pm
Arlo said...

stribo said...

From all i've heard of the place i have no desire to go there...


Hardly the windsurfing spirit mate, anybody would think you were a teabag

We should all be concerned about any place being closed to windsurfing regardless of whether we like it ourselves or would ever want to go there, let alone it being the birthplace of our obsession.

The fact that I am going in July has absolutely nothing to do with it!


Windsurfing spirit aye... after spending four seasons on lancelin beach ( and i mean every single day) you tend to get a little spoilt
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
20 Feb 2008 11:59pm

I can't open the link.

Could...somebody...please...paste...the...original...article...here...so...I...can...read ...it?

Pretty please with an Ezzy on top?
Zubby
Zubby
SA
896 posts
SA, 896 posts
21 Feb 2008 12:06pm
Okay only for an Ezzy

Here you go.

mauisurfreport.blogspot.com/
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
21 Feb 2008 1:02pm
....well we havent cancelled our trip yet!
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
22 Feb 2008 1:29pm
Arlo said...

divaldo said...

dzub said...

Mauritius is the go Dave.

http://www.club-mistral.com/en/destinations/home/9/genInfo



Airfares too expensive!



About the same isn't it $1600ish....


Adelaide to Maui and back is around the same, you are right.
Wet Willy
Wet Willy
TAS
2317 posts
TAS, 2317 posts
23 Feb 2008 12:36am
dzub said...

Okay only for an Ezzy

Here you go.

mauisurfreport.blogspot.com/


No no no no no

I can't open the LINK

Please PASTE the relevant TEXT here!!!!! That's all!
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