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Wet Willy
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27 May 2008 3:41pm
Ahh bugger, messed up the lower back again!!!

AAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!

This time I overdid it because I can only get out twice a week at the moment. I tried to do 7 days worth of sailing in 2 days, and did hours and hours of practice in light wind, which involved lots of uphauling...AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

$h!t $h!t $h!t

...somebody shoot me...Stewie, do you do contract hits?
DavMen
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27 May 2008 4:24pm
Wet Willy said...

I can only get out twice a week at the moment.



What a shame
jp747
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27 May 2008 5:53pm
Wet Willy said...

Ahh bugger, messed up the lower back again!!!

AAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!

This time I overdid it because I can only get out twice a week at the moment. I tried to do 7 days worth of sailing in 2 days, and did hours and hours of practice in light wind, which involved lots of uphauling...AAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

$h!t $h!t $h!t

...somebody shoot me...Stewie, do you do contract hits?


no skimpy dressed singaporean therapist's on the beach wetty
Wet Willy
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27 May 2008 8:44pm
jp747 said...

Wet Willy said...

Ahh bugger, messed up the lower back again!!!



no skimpy dressed singaporean therapist's on the beach wetty


None that I'd want to touch with my ten-foot pole, no...
DavMen
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27 May 2008 10:17pm
Wet Willy said...
None that I'd want to touch with my ten-foot pole


Delerious with pain Willy

hope you have a quick recovery mate
jp747
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27 May 2008 10:48pm
Wet Willy said...

jp747 said...

Wet Willy said...

Ahh bugger, messed up the lower back again!!!



no skimpy dressed singaporean therapist's on the beach wetty


None that I'd want to touch with my ten-foot pole, no...


i just read this just now almost flew of the chair
elmo
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27 May 2008 10:51pm
I'm feeling for ya Willy

Got a pinched nerve in my back at the moment, been struggling to walk for the last couple of days, the couple of km's I had to walk today for work wasn't fun, hence my slightly warbled sense of humour this evening
The Grinch
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27 May 2008 11:06pm

You're getting old Willy and you need to warm it up before you do anything.

I go to a sports therapist and he showed my some good stretches to do.

One is to lay on the floor on your back. With your legs straight out and together, start with your left leg. Bring your left knee up till your heel is by your right knee, then kick your leg out gently in a circle, as wide as you can, back to the starting point. Like a frog kick. Dont let your heel get more than 5 cm off the floor.

Do that ten times each leg morning and night. You will be all better.
Wet Willy
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28 May 2008 8:06pm
The Grinch said...


You're getting old Willy and you need to warm it up before you do anything.

I go to a sports therapist and he showed my some good stretches to do.

One is to lay on the floor on your back. With your legs straight out and together, start with your left leg. Bring your left knee up till your heel is by your right knee, then kick your leg out gently in a circle, as wide as you can, back to the starting point. Like a frog kick. Dont let your heel get more than 5 cm off the floor.

Do that ten times each leg morning and night. You will be all better.


Is this an exercise for building core muscle strength, or a flexibility exercise? o I have to do it on the beach before I go sailing?? I'll try it at home once my back feels a bit better - too much yoga and stectching is partly what buggered it this time so I have to go easy...
jp747
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28 May 2008 6:09pm
i think it's more of the--it's windy gotta rig quick and forget the stretchingworse comes to worse there's always morphine
NotWal
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29 May 2008 2:06pm
Hey WW, SUP is, I hear excellent for core strength.

I buggered my back years n years ago. I couldn't do any exercise for it because when I did it went out. Then I tried a really really easy exercise namely leg raises. Lie on back lift a leg 20 cm off floor and hold for 20 secs or so. Repeat it a few times for each leg every 2nd day. After a month of that I moved on to gentle hovers and back hyperextensions. Now I do normal core exercise once or twice a week and I don't have any back trouble but years of back sensitivity has left me back conscious and a little inflexible.

Tip - If you're going to do lots of uphauling, buy or rig yourself an Easy-Uphaul. It makes uphauling leg work.
stribo
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29 May 2008 4:31pm
elmo said...

I'm feeling for ya Willy

Got a pinched nerve in my back at the moment, been struggling to walk for the last couple of days, the couple of km's I had to walk today for work wasn't fun, hence my slightly warbled sense of humour this evening


Elmo the first line is just wrong
firiebob
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29 May 2008 9:06pm
stribo said...

elmo said...

I'm feeling for ya Willy

Got a pinched nerve in my back at the moment, been struggling to walk for the last couple of days, the couple of km's I had to walk today for work wasn't fun, hence my slightly warbled sense of humour this evening


Elmo the first line is just wrong


elmo
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29 May 2008 9:24pm
I said feeling FOR you Willy

Not

Feeling you Willy
sailpilot
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29 May 2008 11:29pm
Get a grip Elmo
elmo
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29 May 2008 9:37pm
sailpilot said...

Get a grip Elmo


Regularly
Wet Willy
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30 May 2008 2:08pm
The Grinch said...


You're getting old Willy and you need to warm it up before you do anything.

I go to a sports therapist and he showed my some good stretches to do.

One is to lay on the floor on your back. With your legs straight out and together, start with your left leg. Bring your left knee up till your heel is by your right knee, then kick your leg out gently in a circle, as wide as you can, back to the starting point. Like a frog kick. Dont let your heel get more than 5 cm off the floor.

Do that ten times each leg morning and night. You will be all better.


OK, I started doing it last night. Not sure if it's the answer, but it can't hurt. Core exercises are really important, but I always seem to let the crunches etc slide if I'm getting plenty of sailing done, because I like to rest totally afterwards. Bad idea. Must...keep...lower...back...STRONG!!!
jp747
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30 May 2008 12:18pm
Wet Willy said...

The Grinch said...


You're getting old Willy and you need to warm it up before you do anything.

I go to a sports therapist and he showed my some good stretches to do.

One is to lay on the floor on your back. With your legs straight out and together, start with your left leg. Bring your left knee up till your heel is by your right knee, then kick your leg out gently in a circle, as wide as you can, back to the starting point. Like a frog kick. Dont let your heel get more than 5 cm off the floor.

Do that ten times each leg morning and night. You will be all better.


OK, I started doing it last night. Not sure if it's the answer, but it can't hurt. Core exercises are really important, but I always seem to let the crunches etc slide if I'm getting plenty of sailing done, because I like to rest totally afterwards. Bad idea. Must...keep...lower...back...STRONG!!!



wetty as the chiro says the only major muscles that hold the spine in place is the stomach so crunches to strenghten and transform the belly into solid musclle is a must...
LeStef
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30 May 2008 2:45pm
Just sit down, relax and have a VB with Ka43...
RAL INN
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3 Jun 2008 4:24pm
www.pillsarenottheanswer.com

look up FLX.
http://www.globalagelonline.com/agel-flx.html

this has removed all back pain from my day.

if you want to try it then go
www.globalagelonline.com/sherylagel

FormulaNova
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3 Jun 2008 3:11pm
RAL INN said...

<snip>

if you want to try it then go
www.globalagelonline.com/sherylagel



What a coincidence that the URL has your wife's name in it?

This is not a pain relief version of Amway is it?

RAL INN
RAL INN
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3 Jun 2008 6:03pm
wife deals in it which is how I got to use it.

got forced to use it now I'd kill anyone who took it away.

the Marketing model is Network for sure but that's no reason to not use it.

oldie
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4 Jun 2008 5:55pm

Must keep lower back strong...yes yes
But more important- Must keep back flexible so that distorted vertabra go back into place.
There is a tendency to lock up the back rigid when it has been hurt and this slows recovery.
Still do my flexibility exercise 20 years after a Singapore girl fixed me up from close to crippled.
Fingers on hips and try to rotate them backwards. Stop if it hurts.
(I would describe it as reverse rooting )

Wet Willy
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4 Jun 2008 6:34pm
oldie said...


(I would describe it as reverse rooting )




You mean "Kiter Style"??
oldie
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5 Jun 2008 1:18am
More like an unhook in a 30 knot gybe when you are suddenly aware of the chaos an inadvertent hookin would create. Repeat a hundred times slowly.
Why do girls never have back problems? Cos they naturally pop bootie..
Wet Willy
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5 Jun 2008 11:53am
oldie said...

More like an unhook in a 30 knot gybe when you are suddenly aware of the chaos an inadvertent hookin would create. Repeat a hundred times slowly.
Why do girls never have back problems? Cos they naturally pop bootie..


A hundred times?? Holy heck...maybe I should do it to music??
oldie
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6 Jun 2008 3:59am
No music, gotta concentrate altho falling asleep at 38 is most likely, and at first it will start to hurt at 10.
Lets see, how would Cribbie inspire u?

"Gotta do it in slow motion to commit it to muscle memory first."
1. Lie straight on back and put a finger on each hip bone. This is to monitor pelvic rotation which will be typically zero at first as your back has no doubt locked itself up.
2. Like a gybe there are about 6 separate positions which must be integrated into one smooth rotary movement-
suck in tummy and lift bottom slightly off the deck
force pelvis towards your feet.
think about curling your tail bone back under u. this is most important part.
weight back onto bottom
repeat. your fingertips will have moved in a tiny circle which you will endeavor to enlarge. morning and night for a week should do it..

Wet Willy
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6 Jun 2008 11:57am
oldie said...

No music, gotta concentrate altho falling asleep at 38 is most likely, and at first it will start to hurt at 10.
Lets see, how would Cribbie inspire u?

"Gotta do it in slow motion to commit it to muscle memory first."
1. Lie straight on back and put a finger on each hip bone. This is to monitor pelvic rotation which will be typically zero at first as your back has no doubt locked itself up.
2. Like a gybe there are about 6 separate positions which must be integrated into one smooth rotary movement-
suck in tummy and lift bottom slightly off the deck
force pelvis towards your feet.
think about curling your tail bone back under u. this is most important part.
weight back onto bottom
repeat. your fingertips will have moved in a tiny circle which you will endeavor to enlarge. morning and night for a week should do it..




That's not at all like the first description, "reverse rooting"...it's more like "lying on your back and letting HER do most of the work...I was trying to stick my butt out backwards, which is totally wrong..

How about posting a video?
oldie
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6 Jun 2008 10:17pm
In the meantime, I think that you have got it.
Rotating the usual way is for fun, the opposite direction is for fixing.
Get missus to soften lower back muscles first by gentle massage might help.
If it is like mine-
Any sideways stretches and movements as prescribed by "sports" physios hurt and are counter productive. They were killing me by degrees.
Chiro is nono. First session fixes you for a while, second one does nothing, third one sets you back worse than ever.
Singapore girl said "You sili boy, never do exercise that hurts you"
Thanks a million babe

mr love
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9 Jun 2008 5:59pm
I returned from a work trip to India yeterday , bent over to pick up my bag off the terminal floor and bingo , my backs Kangaroo Ted . In huge pain I manged to get a Taxi home but by the time I got there the driver had to carry me to the door . I collapsed on the floor and couldn't get up , so my wife called the Ambo,s .
Severely herniated disk and I am bed bound at the moment , a trip to the dunny is like climbing Mount Everest .
I know there are some guy,s out there that have had similar experiences so I would appreciate some advice . I am a bit devistated at the moment so would welcome any help .
Thanks in advance .
mineral1
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9 Jun 2008 4:42pm
mr love said...

I returned from a work trip to India yeterday , bent over to pick up my bag off the terminal floor and bingo , my backs Kangaroo Ted . In huge pain I manged to get a Taxi home but by the time I got there the driver had to carry me to the door . I collapsed on the floor and couldn't get up , so my wife called the Ambo,s .
Severely herniated disk and I am bed bound at the moment , a trip to the dunny is like climbing Mount Everest .
I know there are some guy,s out there that have had similar experiences so I would appreciate some advice . I am a bit devistated at the moment so would welcome any help .
Thanks in advance .


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