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Sea Lotus
Sea Lotus
323 posts
323 posts
8 Jul 2026 2:23am
Need advice to make the board fly on fin.

Stopped wingfoiling, want to try speed freeride for lightwinds. Never used slalom board or cammed sails before so got a freerace board, tried it today with a wave sail, boards nose was sticking a lot when sail was not powered up, it was ok when powered. Footstraps are back, mast track all the way back, boom 5cm higher than my normal.95lt 61cm, 32cm g10, 5.5m, 16-18kt, 62kg

I am planning to get a 6.0 freerace sail as well, but i am a bit confused, would that sail would make it stick even more?
Or should i change the fin? In what way?

Thanks in advance
SurferKris
SurferKris
506 posts
506 posts
8 Jul 2026 3:09am
You cannot tell much from using a wavesail. A proper race sail will have a more locked in feeling and provide more backfoot pressure etc. Everything moved well back is the way to, then raise the boom to reduce the mastfoot pressure etc. You will always need a high speed to fly of the fin, fairly flat water and a good enough fin etc. On a 95 liter board I don't think that you will fly off the fin until you are above at least 25knots, and then it only gets better from there, lean back and enjoy the ride!

Oh, and be careful with wingfoilers, you will sail much faster than them and they do need a fair bit of safety distance. More so than with other windsurfers, in my experience.
powersloshin
powersloshin
NSW
1862 posts
NSW, 1862 posts
8 Jul 2026 8:35am
If you sail in deep enough water for a straight fin, get a carbon fin. Yes you need a 3-4 cammed sail with low foot for speed.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8383 posts
NSW, 8383 posts
8 Jul 2026 11:28am
I use a twin cam on my 90ltre freerace..
I like the way it holds it's shape off the breeze. 😛
I don't like the way the breeze can catch the profile and blow it away once you fall off.🙄

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
15024 posts
QLD, 15024 posts
8 Jul 2026 6:16pm
From memory are you mainly wavesailing….

if you are mostly used to wave boards then you could be putting too much pressure through your front foot..to get the board to fly you need to put more pressure through your back foot.

wave sail is fine, mast base doesn’t need to be at back of track. You really just need to be planing and put more pressure against the fin with your back foot.. opposite to wave boards with smaller fins.

you want to move your weight back so you have the last 20-30cm of the board skipping across the water once planing. At that point the board will free up and accelerate.

in the past when i was sailing formula i used to have issues switching back and forth to wave gear due to spinout from overloading the wave board fins. Same problem but the other way around.
Taavi
Taavi
444 posts
444 posts
8 Jul 2026 6:52pm
powersloshin said..
If you sail in deep enough water for a straight fin, get a carbon fin. Yes you need a 3-4 cammed sail with low foot for speed.


Nothing wrong with g10 fins for recreational use. I have a 32 cm g10 fin here, and a no cam sail. Would have wanted a smaller ca 95 litres board (instead of the 116 L):


jn1
jn1
SA
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jn1 jn1
SA, 2822 posts
9 Jul 2026 8:25pm
Nice video. Music sounds very Tangerine Dream'ish.
SurferKris
SurferKris
506 posts
506 posts
9 Jul 2026 10:07pm
That looks mostly like bump and jump though, I cannot tell from that video if you are flying of the fin or not.
There are better videos about this, se for instance below (skip to e.g. around 17 minutes if you want to).

duzzi
duzzi
1128 posts
1128 posts
10 Jul 2026 11:47pm
Sea Lotus said..
Need advice to make the board fly on fin.

Stopped wingfoiling, want to try speed freeride for lightwinds. Never used slalom board or cammed sails before so got a freerace board, tried it today with a wave sail, boards nose was sticking a lot when sail was not powered up, it was ok when powered. Footstraps are back, mast track all the way back, boom 5cm higher than my normal.95lt 61cm, 32cm g10, 5.5m, 16-18kt, 62kg

I am planning to get a 6.0 freerace sail as well, but i am a bit confused, would that sail would make it stick even more?
Or should i change the fin? In what way?

Thanks in advance





Unless you are racing at the PWA level you do not need a cam sail. The difference in top speed is maybe a knot (there is a great comparison on the Point-7 web site, where 0-, 2-, and 3-cams all go above 34 knots), and whatever advantage a cam might have for recreational use is diminished by the rigging hassle, weight, occasional water start nightmare to (they do fill in with water!), and their unforgiving nature. You go 110% and they are great. Stable and "effortless".You are overwhelmed, want to slow down or have a bit of a shaky jibe? Good luck. Same for the fin. You do not need carbon, especially at 32. A Tectonic Phoenix was competitive at the PWA racing for many years, at sailing levels we can only aspire too.

The problem you are experiencing is inherent to modern slalom boards. They only work well is if overpowered. So no, a 6.0, or better a 6.5, would not make it stick more. A 6.0-6.5, or more, is what the board needs.
Sea Lotus
Sea Lotus
323 posts
323 posts
30 Jul 2026 2:14am
Thanks for the replies.

I tried with 6.0 camberless freerace sail, although still getting used to the sail, its much better for keeping the board off the water, especially at top end. Interestingly less downhaul made it fly better.
First time up to 7th and 8th gears over chop with gusts, i guess those were moments when i was properly flying on fin, when i was overpowered at 20+kt, i am already switching to small gear before that point.
So i decided to change my a bit raked freerace g10 fin with a more upright carbon slalom fin at same length, hoping to get a bit more lift and less effort to hit thoese upper gears with a bit less wind.
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