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Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
9 Jan 2008 5:29pm
After ripping 3 Neil Pryde sails in 2 weeks I have decided to end the rocky realtionship between myself and NP. We've had some good times, but some bad too and I think it's time to move on. So will probs go for Blades. Had a sail of one one last week and was pretty impressed. They look a lot stronger too.
westozwind
westozwind
WA
1419 posts
WA, 1419 posts
9 Jan 2008 5:36pm
Zed,
How old were they and how did ya bust em
Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
9 Jan 2008 5:57pm
Yeah they were a few years old 3 - 5 yrs. 2 were me landing on sail, other was a pulley ripping out.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
9 Jan 2008 5:58pm
Have you tried an Ezzy out as well?
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
9 Jan 2008 6:48pm
nebbian said...

Have you tried an Ezzy out as well?


Yeah have, like them too. But the Blades are pretty cheap.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23690 posts
WA, 23690 posts
9 Jan 2008 7:08pm
Severne are good in every aspect... except they use thinner mono and Xply than many.

Simmer X-Flex (or Ezzy if you must) all the way for durability
Ben Severne
Ben Severne
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
9 Jan 2008 8:07pm
What, what? We use thinner monofilm and xply than other brands? News to me...

The Blade has a high density Dyneema xply in the foot panel, a Spectra/Kevlar blend in the window xply, then the upper panels have a twisted kevlar/polyester metalized xply. No monofilm panels at all.

Sorry to talk my own stuff up, but that comment got me! All good though...
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23690 posts
WA, 23690 posts
9 Jan 2008 8:28pm
Well dunno about now but I have been seen the mono and the X-ply in the 1 y/o S1 to be thinner than in my 3 y/o Simmer X-flex
I won't dob the guy in but I was shown at a sail loft. It was obviously substandard X-ply in the foot panels.

You make awesome sails but some models were let down by thinner materials that's all. As I said... dunno about now.
WINDY MILLER
WINDY MILLER
WA
3183 posts
WA, 3183 posts
9 Jan 2008 8:38pm
mark, i think you just put your finger in your eye socket - via your nostril
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23690 posts
WA, 23690 posts
9 Jan 2008 8:42pm
You can't ignore it when you have seen it with your own eyes.... 7mil vs 5mil is obvious when compared side by side
nutbag
nutbag
154 posts
154 posts
10 Jan 2008 8:34am
Zed said...

Yeah they were a few years old 3 - 5 yrs. 2 were me landing on sail....


well what do you expect then?
555
555
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555 555
892 posts
10 Jan 2008 8:41am
Zed said...

Yeah they were a few years old 3 - 5 yrs. 2 were me landing on sail, other was a pulley ripping out.


3-5 years probably exceeds the life expectancy of most sails given regular use.. You landing on them would not be considered reasonable use either (they make trampolines for that..)

You're going to have to buy new masts as well if you change from NP.. It's a cunning marketing trap on their part..

Still, new gear is always nice.
divaldo
divaldo
SA
2879 posts
SA, 2879 posts
10 Jan 2008 10:30am
Ben Severne said...

What, what? We use thinner monofilm and xply than other brands? News to me...

The Blade has a high density Dyneema xply in the foot panel, a Spectra/Kevlar blend in the window xply, then the upper panels have a twisted kevlar/polyester metalized xply. No monofilm panels at all.

Sorry to talk my own stuff up, but that comment got me! All good though...


Now all we need is STROH to weigh in on ths arguement :)

SA Rules!

Crash Landing
Crash Landing
NSW
1173 posts
NSW, 1173 posts
10 Jan 2008 11:03am
Ben Severne said...

What, what? We use thinner monofilm and xply than other brands? News to me...

The Blade has a high density Dyneema xply in the foot panel, a Spectra/Kevlar blend in the window xply, then the upper panels have a twisted kevlar/polyester metalized xply. No monofilm panels at all.

Sorry to talk my own stuff up, but that comment got me! All good though...


I wonder when Pryde will post on this forum? I don't think you should apologise for explaining that someone incorrectly described your products. (I don't know anything about Severne sails so won't/can't comment either way)
stehsegler
stehsegler
WA
3580 posts
WA, 3580 posts
10 Jan 2008 9:31am
Zed... the mono film in the new Pryde Alphas doesn't seem to rip, it dents. Sounds weired I know. I am wondering if the flim is actually a three layer composite.

I don't think a 2-3 year old Severne would fare much better if handled like you handled you Prydes.

windjunky
windjunky
VIC
401 posts
VIC, 401 posts
10 Jan 2008 12:34pm
I became an "anti-Pryde" man cos they appeared more fragile than others in my past experience when a couple of them bust far too early, but then along came a great deal on a 5.0 2006 Combat and I just had to give it a go (well, it does look like sex on a stick). And i gotta be honest, sailing-wise the Combat 5.0 is my current fave. Having said that...

1) I'd never had a pulley rip out of the sail in 11 years of sailing until exactly that happened with my Combat on a 25knotSE and building day at Sth Ricketts (Melb) recently. Funny thing is that i'd changed over my hacked up old downhaul rope in the car park just that session, so when everything went "BANG!" and the sail went into severe limp home mode I was stuffed if i could work out what had happened...
2) Havent sailed a Severne Blade, but have heard great things about them from several people, and you cant swing a cat in Geraldton without hitting one. (Plus you get a suntan from the silver coating...)
Ben Severne
Ben Severne
WA
194 posts
WA, 194 posts
10 Jan 2008 10:39am
No S-1 has ever used any 5mil monofilm. Dunno who was showing you that!!

(Unless it was one of the custom protos we build in the loft in Perth for ourselves - been known to slap together some superlight contest sails now and then! And we don't build those to last more than a contest or 2...)
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
10 Jan 2008 10:47am
if you want strong don't rule out Sailworks, the revo's are strong as hell, haven't seen one damaged for about 5 years and that one was from a head high close out onto some rocks, the most i've seen these days with the new materials is harness hook dents, some 1cm deep and no hole.. the "08" i got the other day are heaps powerful. but i did see some new severne sails the other day, they look pretty hot. it appears they have sorted the dodgy mast sleeve prob from a few years back too..
Zubby
Zubby
SA
896 posts
SA, 896 posts
10 Jan 2008 12:25pm
Severne for me, what great sails they are!

I have just purchased my first Severne sail (S1/4·2) from a good friend here in Adelaide. They are a well balanced sail hence they feel great on the water!
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
10 Jan 2008 7:26pm
um im just going to put my two bobs in.... in the end its all in the sailior!!!new strong gear is really nice! and lets face it a 06 any brand kit is better then a 1997 kit. i sail with a guy who has a 2000 pryde... he overtakes me without even blinking an eye! fight all u like! al companies are out there to make MONEY. some more then others!!!

P.S i love pryde... all there sails look so sexy......
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
10 Jan 2008 6:43pm
The pryde sails are excellent to sail but durability of their sdm masts and their mast bases that pull apart in the middle of the ocean are a concern. In the end I went to a RDM for performance and durability and was happy with the s1's for wave sailing. The blades are my choice for new sails.

For the average recreational sailor I would hope for two if not three seasons of use from a 5.0 sail.


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