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grahowler
grahowler
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
11 Mar 2006 9:39pm
Hi Folks.

I'm not sure if you get this question here all the time, and are completely sick of it, but I couldn't find a more relevant place to put it. So, sorry if this is tiresome, but here goes...

I am a complete NuB, never windsurfed before and I am going to start. I'm in Brissy and I haven't got a clue what I am loking at in terms of gear, but I've had a quick look in the Trading Post and the Weekend Shopper, and from what I can see you can pick up a complete set up for under $500.00. There seems to be three types of gear showing up, Tyronsea, Syrotech & HiFly.

Seems board widths vary fairly greatly and some of them come with one and two sails. Some of them seem to specify that they are "beginner" sets.

From what I've read here already size and weight can have some bearing on what you buy, and I'm not a "big" fella. About 175cm tall and 75kg.

Well, any help anyone can give will be very much appreciated.

Cheers!
decrepit
decrepit
WA
12885 posts
WA, 12885 posts
11 Mar 2006 7:58pm
A lot depends on what sort of windsurfing you'll be doing.
If it's flat water light wind, I wouldn't bother with ancient gear. The board you'll use in very light wind is also fine to learn on.

(What happened then???? I was in the middle of composing and all of a sudden it's posted before I'm finished!!!)

Anyway as I was saying, if you want to get into waves, or don't think you'll be interested in very light winds, there's a couple of alternatives.
1 buy cheap ancient gear that you can sell on again when you've finished with it. Trouble is you may find it very hard to sell on again, and old gear is much harder to use than the new stuff.

2 hire stuff while you learn, maybe not as convenient as having your own stuff.

3 buy what will be your lowest wind board, and if it's too small to uphaul learn to waterstart first. This is a harder way to learn, and there's no immediate success but it's quicker. A lot of people who try this way, give up, but I think that's mainly thru lack of good lessons, and not wanting to be seen making a fool of themselves.
eckas
eckas
NSW
323 posts
NSW, 323 posts
11 Mar 2006 10:59pm
Hey Grahowler.

Good thing you made this post - In my opinion, any of those options would be a huge mistake. Get yourself into a MODERN learners package and you will never look back. Do it smartly, and that learners package will become your lightwind board and heavy wind sail, once you've been bitten by the bug and want more Time on Water. Just be prepared to spend a bit more money to do it properley - you'll thank yourself for it later.

Look at something like a Starboard Go, and a modern, loose leached sail - hard to say what size until you know where you're going to sail. Talk to people, visit shops, research research research - don't buy until you understand the components required, how they work together.

Most importantly, understand how dramatically different modern gear is compared to the relics you've seen advertised, and don't get ripped off by buying old gear that you'll struggle to learn on, and essentialy doesn't represent the sport that windsurfing is today.

Good luck - keep the posts coming - lots of people will be happy to help you get set up in the wonderful world of windsurfing. (Just don't expect and answer tomorrow - awesome nor-easter forecast for much of the NSW coast at long last.

Where abouts are you and where do you intend to sail?

Eckas.

Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14967 posts
QLD, 14967 posts
11 Mar 2006 11:28pm
hi grahowler,

all of the boards mentioned are not the best to learn on.

tyronsea is total crap (poor universal joint design). styrotech is to easily damaged and hifly lacks stability (hull shape). avoid all old school gear completely. except maybe a windsurfer one design. one designs are superb and very cheap. try and avoid a one design with an old sail and boom, that is no good. you need a more contemporary sail and boom. one designs with really old triangle sails are no good. the newer one design sails are a lot better and easier to manage.

for modern gear something like a second hand wide board is more suitable. when i say wide i mean 85cm and up, but avoid race gear as it is made from carbon and easily damaged. starboard "go" etc are great, but a little expensive.

look for a wave sail to start with, they are more forgiving and durable. probably a 6-6.5m would be a great size and maybe a 5m sail as a second sail.

a fibreglass mast is better than a carbon mast for learners and a clamp on boom is a must. don't buy a boom that needs to be tied onto the mast with rope.

you should definately get lessons. maybe you won't like the sport.....? if you are nervous about buying from the newspapers then the 2 places that i think will give you the best advice on gear aren't in brisbane. you should talk to either

Peter at caloundra wind and surf.
Deiter at sunshine coast sailboards.

both those guys have been around for a very very long time and stock some really great secondhand gear. they also tend to have more learner type gear around as well.

don't buy any gear that says slalom, wave, race etc.

most sailing around brissy is done on flat water and some of it is not very safe for a beginner. board crazy does it's lessons at manly and that is a good spot. the swimming pool area at wynnum is good in a NE or SE. Thompsons esplanade, victoria point in a SE is good spot at high tide, the northern side of Wello in a northerly is good but muddy. i think the 2 best spots are either gold coast broadwater at southport, south of the swimming pools in front of the big carpark area. or the passage at caloundra.

a good video to get is Windsurfing made easy with Tom Luedecke. you can find it at most libraries. cleveland definately has a copy.

the things to remember are these.

golden rules
1. always learn to turn around first...... this is a must.
2. only sail in onshore conditions when learning.
3. line up something on the shore to see if you are drifting.

other than that. it is an absolute blast. best sport ever...


Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14967 posts
QLD, 14967 posts
11 Mar 2006 11:49pm
just to clarify,

when i stated don't buy any gear that says slalom, wave, race etc.
i meant boards....

greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
12 Mar 2006 12:14am
good old gestalt has done a good overview of the situation.
so.....get a dvd. visit local spots, check out local shops(most important)they don't expect you to buy off them they just like windsurfing and talking about it.but with advice comes service so it's a two way street
and do yourself a favour.
remember,mates don't let mates rollerblade.[}:)]
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
14967 posts
QLD, 14967 posts
12 Mar 2006 2:40am
oh and let's not forget surf FX hey greenleader

plus you might want to check out surfconnect. i sail with patrick now and then. he has some cheap gear... and of course he is a great bloke too
grahowler
grahowler
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
12 Mar 2006 7:28am
Wow guys, you're all extremely helpful thanks heaps!

Obviously passionate about the sport eh!

There's lots of great info here to get me started, Gestalt there's almost a Sticky in that post.

Anyway, it's obvious that I have a bit of work to do in researching gear, and yes - I am going to book myself in for some lessons. I'm only 5 mins down the road from Manly so that sounds perfect, in fact I'm going to go to Board Crazy today to have a look at some gear and book in for a lesson.

Thanks again everyone, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your interest. I will keep posting and let you know how I progress on my gear research.

Cheers!
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