Physics explanation of Board Vee please??

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hardman
hardman
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16 Aug 2004 5:32pm
Does anyone know how the laws of physics apply to board vee bottoms, Drake, calls it dead rise.

Someone once told me the water flowed away from vee, the centre of the board, towards the rails, causing the centre of the vee to suck itself onto the water surface??

Any physics heads out there??
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stozza
stozza
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17 Aug 2004 3:08pm
No physics needed here, I see the vee like a shock absorber. If you have no vee, its like slapping a flat surface (under side of your board) onto the water and we all know that has no give making your board with no vee give a very harsh ride. But if you increase the vee, its like softening up the ride as the water is directed away under the board. But my understanding is that if you increase vee, like anything in this sport you have a trade off. In this case, speed is lost how ever, grip is increased.

Anyway, thats what I think

it looks windy enough
KAOS69
KAOS69
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18 Aug 2004 11:06am
the vee works inconjunction with the tail rocker and rail tuck. The angle of the vee is critical to board performance .The science behind it is that the surface area is reduced and not so much toe and heel pressure is needed to turn the board . You will find that wave boards will have the most vee than free wave than freeride than free style .Most good salom boards will not have vee because it actually makes the hull sit lower in the water which causes drag and will slow the board .If they do have vee it will be minumun to help make the board more rider friendly with jibing .Vee and rail tuck are measured in mm and range from about 2mm up to 10-12 mm this combined with tail rocker and rail tuck will make the board lose e.g wave riding .Less tail rocker,vee and rail tuck will increase up wind performance and speed .So when designing a board remember that these measurements are important and that one does not necessarly work with the other.This is a very debated topic in the board making world i could go on for hours peace out
hardman
hardman
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1116 posts
18 Aug 2004 11:53am
Thanx KAOS and Stozz,

I'm interested in knowing more, so when you have the time and inclination, I'd be more than pleased to hear about the technical side of windsurfing boards etc.

Hardie (If only I could windsurf as well as my brother Damian surfs)
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
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18 Aug 2004 12:16pm
Hardman , i been talking to mr greenroom and he says that your board is coming along great ,wouldnt mind to see it one day always interested in people with initative
hardman
hardman
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1116 posts
18 Aug 2004 12:56pm
KAOS My favourite No.

Check your personal email, and I'll send you personal contact details.

Hardie (If only I could windsurf as well as my brother Damian surfs)
bluejuice
bluejuice
WA
334 posts
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18 Aug 2004 7:05pm
V=mc2x.333+(dead rise x 12)- S.G.of the ambiant H2O

a.k.a. KA202
decrepit
decrepit
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18 Aug 2004 7:15pm
quote:
V=mc2x.333+(dead rise x 12)- S.G.of the ambiant H2O



Hey bluejuice, I see you've included relativity, but aren't you forgetting the Quantum effect?????

decrepit
bluejuice
bluejuice
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18 Aug 2004 8:37pm
Yeah err no emmm I was trying to keep it simple for everyone, I mean when it gets down to that level it's only space I'll save the quarks theory on vee in another post.

a.k.a. KA202
decrepit
decrepit
WA
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18 Aug 2004 9:05pm
quote:
I was trying to keep it simple for everyone,


Point taken, just thought the uncertainty thing about waves and particles might be relevant, after all we can put enpough rocker in to handle waves, but what do you do if it's a particle??????

Puzzled.

decrepit
bluejuice
bluejuice
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334 posts
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19 Aug 2004 11:20am
Hmmm good question, looks like it's back to the books for me on this one.

a.k.a. KA202
elmo
elmo
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19 Aug 2004 7:47pm

Too Vee or Not Too Vee??

Makes No difference when you sail like Me

Alby


Born Ugly, Just got better at it
Greenroom
Greenroom
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19 Aug 2004 9:04pm
i hear you loud and clear elmo
im with you all the way on that one
but its good to hear what goes on in the mind of a shaper
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