Polesurfing needs to be made simple.

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waveslave
waveslave
WA
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21 Mar 2008 1:08pm
If pole-gear came in a nice small package like kitesurfing....
would anybody really bother with kiting ??
hoop
hoop
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1979 posts
21 Mar 2008 1:16pm
Two piece boards would be handy.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
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21 Mar 2008 1:41pm
Ahh but you can get them:

http://detroit.craigslist.org/boa/605035710.html

The trouble with this blow-up toy,
just like blow-up kites, and blow-up dolls....

is that they're toys.


Lol
elmo
elmo
WA
8895 posts
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21 Mar 2008 1:48pm
I gotta admit I do look on the kiting fraternity with some envy when I see them rock up an a sedan pop the boot and theres 3 sails, 2 boards and all the kit they need in there.
pweedas
pweedas
WA
4642 posts
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21 Mar 2008 1:58pm
Yeah but,.. with all those teeny weeny itsy bitsy little toys, it's too easy to lose stuff.
Check out the 'lost and found' in the kite forum.
Or check out the 'lost' notices at the windsurf/kitesurf beaches.
It's always "LOST Kitesurf board,. blah blah blah,.."
You never see;
"LOST windsurf board. Starboard Carve 111.
Just happened to lose it in the ocean somewhere."
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
21 Mar 2008 2:02pm
Ha Ha Ha !
Very nice Nebian
Yeah but some toys are more fun than others
Ill take the blow up doll over the windsurfing gear any day evn if its blow up board, mast ,boom what ever

....and by the way, I thought the dudes on the windsurfing boards were the inflatable part,
look for the valve on the back of the head


nebbian said...



The trouble with this blow-up toy,
just like blow-up kites, and blow-up dolls....

is that they're toys.


Lol


red
red
VIC
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red red
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21 Mar 2008 5:04pm
Yeah kitesurfers have a small package , i mean the kites come compact BUT we don't need 20 metres of beach to launch from..

elmo
elmo
WA
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21 Mar 2008 3:29pm
red said...

Yeah kitesurfers have a small package , i mean the kites come compact BUT we don't need 20 metres of beach to launch from..




you may not, but it's generally safer for all concerned if I do
hoop
hoop
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1979 posts
21 Mar 2008 3:35pm
They have a small package and they're simple. Sounds about right.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
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22 Mar 2008 10:26am
if I had a kite I'd inflate it with helium or nitrous oxide. for extra lift or a laugh..
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
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WA, 1492 posts
22 Mar 2008 9:51am
yer eazy to carry around, but you still have to pump it up, run those long ass lines out, spend 20 minutes getting the knots out if it wasn't put away exactly right, find someone to help you get it in the air if you don't want to drag your new kite across the beach, but putting it in the car is way eazier.
Gestalt
Gestalt
QLD
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22 Mar 2008 11:24am
i haven't met a kiter yet that doesn't have so much gear in the car that he can barely see out the back window.

1 kite might be compact but 3 kite bags in a line is the same size as an entire quiver of windsuring kit. (less boards)
Richiefish
Richiefish
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22 Mar 2008 12:10pm
instead of a kite you could use a trained albatross ???
X-man
X-man
WA
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22 Mar 2008 11:24am
Agree with Simpson, if you have roof racks/ a station wagon/panel van/ute, which you usually do being a windsurfer, it takes just as short to get everything in and out of your vehicle as if it were kiting stuff (couple more minutes to tighten straps on your roofracks maybe). The indeed rigging can be done in 5 minutes no worries, plus you never have to spend an evening undoing knots in your lines.
Also with kiting you have to make sure all these tiny bits and pieces are in good operating condition, such as the safety relaese system, lines going everywhere (I had the safety release plastic thing you pull or push break in half once). Also your bladders, it must be a nightmare if you have the octopus system to find the leak, take them out and fix them... For these reasons I believe a kite is far less durable than a windsurf sail, hence you have to renew your gear often, and the poor guy who bought your stuff second hand has to cop it on the chin if something goes wrong...
Windsurfing kit on the other hand sure is a little bulkier, but consists on 5 main parts:
-mast
-sail
-base
-boom
-board
The base tendon is pretty much the only thing you have to monitor over a long period of time, even if that fails theres usually a little strap or rope that will keep your sail on the deck..
Other then that all issues with both equipments are similar: sail/kite tears, board repairs essentially.
Of course if ur in hardcore stuff you'll be more likely to replace your mast/kite more often.
From there i believe windsurfing keeps its simplicity very well.
Kiting is just easier to learn, as a result some people might go the easy way (far enough), afterwards seeing it as "more fun".
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
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22 Mar 2008 12:38pm
X-man said...
Windsurfing kit on the other hand sure is a little bulkier, but consists on 5 main parts:
-mast
-sail
-base
-boom
-board


It's funny how you never see a recreational kiter towing a gear trailor behind their vehicle.
Those 5 main windsurfing parts can turn into a dozen pieces of poleycrap.
I'll show you how....

mast x 2
sail x 3
base x couple
boom x 2
board x 2
= min. gear
lol.
Polesurfing is a clusterf.u.c.k.

mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
WA, 4564 posts
22 Mar 2008 12:42pm
waveslave said...

X-man said...
Windsurfing kit on the other hand sure is a little bulkier, but consists on 5 main parts:
-mast
-sail
-base
-boom
-board


It's funny how you never see a recreational kiter towing a gear trailor behind their vehicle.
Those 5 main windsurfing parts can turn into a dozen pieces of poleycrap.
I'll show you how....

mast x 2
sail x 3
base x couple
boom x 2
board x 2
= min. gear
lol.
Polesurfing is a clusterf.u.c.k.




You run with that theory and F1 teams would all be racing around on roller blades or roller skates
hoop
hoop
1979 posts
1979 posts
22 Mar 2008 3:07pm
Not sure I'd run with any of Mr Slaves theories. He's paying out on people with trailers while he's rocking up at the beach with his 40 foot bus and his wife has to bring down the Mitsubishi express to fit in what ever doesnt fit in the bus. So I'm not really sure where he's going with the cluster f.u.c.k theory.
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
22 Mar 2008 3:39pm
X-man said...

Agree with Simpson, if you have roof racks/ a station wagon/panel van/ute, which you usually do being a windsurfer, it takes just as short to get everything in and out of your vehicle as if it were kiting stuff (couple more minutes to tighten straps on your roofracks maybe). The indeed rigging can be done in 5 minutes no worries, plus you never have to spend an evening undoing knots in your lines.
Also with kiting you have to make sure all these tiny bits and pieces are in good operating condition, such as the safety relaese system, lines going everywhere (I had the safety release plastic thing you pull or push break in half once). Also your bladders, it must be a nightmare if you have the octopus system to find the leak, take them out and fix them... For these reasons I believe a kite is far less durable than a windsurf sail, hence you have to renew your gear often, and the poor guy who bought your stuff second hand has to cop it on the chin if something goes wrong...
Windsurfing kit on the other hand sure is a little bulkier, but consists on 5 main parts:
-mast
-sail
-base
-boom
-board
The base tendon is pretty much the only thing you have to monitor over a long period of time, even if that fails theres usually a little strap or rope that will keep your sail on the deck..
Other then that all issues with both equipments are similar: sail/kite tears, board repairs essentially.
Of course if ur in hardcore stuff you'll be more likely to replace your mast/kite more often.
From there i believe windsurfing keeps its simplicity very well.
Kiting is just easier to learn, as a result some people might go the easy way (far enough), afterwards seeing it as "more fun".


Agree

So slavey, no one took the trolls bait, so you had to get all nasty:

waveslave said...

Polesurfing is a clusterf.u.c.k.


Maybe someone will bite now...

BTW slave, I agree about minimum pole gear, in fact, that is the bare bones of minimum And, who takes all of their gear with them each sess anyway. I only ever pack about 1/4 of my gear, which fits in the car easy squeezy
RayQ
RayQ
WA
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WA, 638 posts
22 Mar 2008 5:25pm
All the sarcasm aside, as an ex windsurfer I do apreciate the ease of transport compared with windsurfing gear.

Koosie
Koosie
34 posts
34 posts
22 Mar 2008 5:59pm
Going back through some previous posts from long ago it seems Mr Slave likes to bait the area and then wait to see what happens.
It also seems he is not as angry as he used to be... medication maybe ?
A good thing perhaps... definite little man syndrome or sure
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
22 Mar 2008 10:11pm
waveslave said...

If pole-gear came in a nice small package like kitesurfing....
would anybody really bother with kiting ??


I don't know, probably, what are you saying? Looks pretty cool from the beach, is apparently easy to learn, kiters seem pretty passionate about it.

waveslave said...
Those 5 main windsurfing parts can turn into a dozen pieces of poleycrap.
I'll show you how....

mast x 2
sail x 3
base x couple
boom x 2
board x 2
= min. gear
lol.
Polesurfing is a clusterf.u.c.k.


I can fit ALL my gear into a 2 door coupe, except board on roof. That's 2 sails, 1 boom, 1 mast (2 pieces if you really must because it soo hard to put them together). Fins, extension, harness live in the boot like the base lives on the board. Takes me 5 minutes to pack, 5 mins to setup and go.

You forgot:
Towels, wetshirt, water/food, wetsuit, sunscreen, thongs, sunnies, phone, wallet, keys...
NotWal
NotWal
QLD
7436 posts
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23 Mar 2008 8:20am
Richiefish said...

instead of a kite you could use a trained albatross ???


How romantic.
Deano
Deano
WA
255 posts
WA, 255 posts
23 Mar 2008 11:03pm
So Waveslave

How come you drive a great big bus a few hundred meters to the beach

Deano
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
23 Mar 2008 11:13pm
Deano said...

So Waveslave

How come you drive a great big bus a few hundred meters to the beach

Deano


So Deano,

How come you drive a 4x4 when you never go bush ?

Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
24 Mar 2008 12:09am
If polesurfing was made any more simpler than it already is then no one would be tea bagging
Keep it the way it is to keep the @#$%heads out of the sport
Go on everyone, Give me the thumbs down, I asked for it
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
24 Mar 2008 1:38am
i like windsurfing....... it's good for the forearms.
nobody
nobody
NSW
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24 Mar 2008 2:46am
Looks like kiting may soon have its own beach or be restricted. Of course then the issue of how much kit you have will be a small one by comparison. I hope that windsurfing doesn't get dragged down with it.

www.perthnow.com.au/


Kite-surfing 'too dangerous' for city beaches
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March 22, 2008 05:00pm

KITE surfers face being dumped from busy metropolitan beaches and put into designated areas as the sport gains popularity.

The City of Fremantle is considering restrictions after two incidents at South Beach.

The council said a carpark power pole was damaged last week by a kite surfer causing an electricity supply cut, and a resident complained of a near-collision near the foreshore.

Western Power responded this week by recommending that people "keep a safe distance from power lines when engaged in overhead recreational activities such as kite surfing''.

Choice Kitesurfing instructor Graham Baker said he had taken immediate action.

"What I am doing at the moment is to make sure that every member of the WA Kitesurfing Association understands that if they go kite surfing at South Beach, they don't perform jumps or tricks in between the groynes,'' he said.

Mr Baker said kite surfers used South Beach because their cars were safer there than in neighbouring Cockburn.

He had seen a close call between a kite surfer and swimmer, but pointed to the sport's guidelines, which recommend a 30m barrier between wave riders and swimming areas between flags.

"We are self-regulating and are all about safety and keeping clear distances,'' he said.

But Fremantle environmental health and building services co-ordinator Matthew Piggott said the sport was ``perhaps not appropriate'' at crowded beaches and suggested restrictions could be introduced.

Fremantle Mayor Peter Tagliaferri singled out "occasional reckless kite surfers spoiling it for everyone else''.

But he said the council could look at other local authorities to see if the sport posed a problem and what measures had been introduced.

Beachside councils in Queensland are considering a crackdown on the sport following a decision by the northern New South Wales Byron Shire Council to impose an interim ban at its Main Beach, pending a safety report.

In WA in 1993, a 47-year-old kite surfer died after hitting power lines in Rockingham.

City of Rockingham Mayor Barry Sammels said the council had not imposed kite-boarding restrictions at Palm Beach where the incident happened, but might review the situation.

The City of Cockburn said it had arranged a meeting with the Department of Environment and Conservation to discuss beach issues.

"We are having this meeting to look at all our beaches and all of their uses, conflicting and otherwise; for example kite surfers and jet skis,'' Mayor Stephen Lee said. "We will create zones where people can operate.''

The Town of Cottesloe has a designated area for kite surfers patrolled by rangers.

City of Joondalup deputy mayor Russ Fishwick said: "We have a designated horse beach and a designated dog beach, so perhaps we have to think about a designated kite-surfing beach.''
hardpole
hardpole
WA
609 posts
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24 Mar 2008 1:46am
City of Joondalup deputy mayor Russ Fishwick said: "We have a designated horse beach and a designated dog beach, so perhaps we have to think about a designated kite-surfing beach.''

But what will it be called, I suggest Puppet Zone but open to ideas.
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
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24 Mar 2008 9:56am
the good people of "Cockburn" should use a water based lubricant.
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
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NSW, 9207 posts
24 Mar 2008 12:44pm
"Windsurfing has been cancelled" is going to look a little ironic, no?

PS "Cockburn" tee he he he
Spearsy
Spearsy
SA
213 posts
SA, 213 posts
24 Mar 2008 1:29pm
Hey kite boarders! A lot of you wearing your boardies over the top of your wetsuits looks like you are trying to copy wake boarders and they are huge posers too. A lot of people who roller blade do that with their spandex and boardies also. “Kite blade” Could be the next thing when you go down the local skate park and invade a lot of space while expecting the skaters who have been their for ages to give way to you too.
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